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rumble1234
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Post by rumble1234 »

It's the smaller packets and all the scanning that's the problem. And if any of this is based on pda actuals then thanks to all the runners.
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Post by bensonhedge »

Deadly wrote:I think we all know how this will play out.

1 in 6 walks absorbed to make 5 walks.

1 new parcel/packet duty formed from displaced walk.

New parcel/packet duty not viable so contents placed back on remaining 5 walks.
you forgot people come in even earlier!!
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Post by datasaint »

How long before Parcelforce is merged with RM under this plan?

As by creating a large parcel duty you're effectively taking on the role of a courier anyway.
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Post by Britt4cwu »

Is this work that parcelforce could or should be taking?
Agree with others that it’s not enough work to cover collapsing 1 in 6
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Post by Denman17 »

bensonhedge wrote:
Deadly wrote:I think we all know how this will play out.

1 in 6 walks absorbed to make 5 walks.

1 new parcel/packet duty formed from displaced walk.

New parcel/packet duty not viable so contents placed back on remaining 5 walks.
you forgot people come in even earlier!!
They will have to come in earlier still. Also a few months down the line we will be asked to absorb happy days.
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Post by Britt4cwu »

To protect jobs and cuts like this staff really need to wake up and do job properly
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Britt4cwu wrote:To protect jobs and cuts like this staff really need to wake up and do job properly
You'll need to show your working.
Personally I think "doing the job properly" would have little material effect on the business, it's really just a noise the union makes because they can shove the blame for everything onto us but hey-ho even if we go with the scenario that there's all these unpaid hours that need to be protected.

Tomorrow everybody "does the job properly".
Royal Mail sees a massive increase in labour costs and decrease in efficiency, profits and share price go into free fall..
How exactly does that protect jobs and stop cuts?
Only dead fish follow the current
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Woody Guthrie wrote:
Britt4cwu wrote: Royal Mail sees a massive increase in labour costs and decrease in efficiency, profits and share price go into free fall..
How exactly does that protect jobs and stop cuts?
because this business is regulated to strangle RM, and I find it amusing that RM continue to cut the job to the bone, whilst competitors free load off the back of it. Regulation demands efficiency to protect the customer, and we`re probably not there yet, but people coming in early and rushing around then finishing early is counter to doing that.
DSA is a MAJOR problem to RM, and is still to be addressed, its a no win situation thats been set up for RM. But in the end regulation has to make it feasible for RM to provide a mail delivery service, because we know the likes of TNT etc surely wont do it as its not profitable enough.
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Post by clashcityrocker »

Deadly wrote:I think we all know how this will play out.

1 in 6 walks absorbed to make 5 walks.

1 new parcel/packet duty formed from displaced walk.

New parcel/packet duty not viable so contents placed back on remaining 5 walks.
No because the new parcel delivery is in the LAT hub and not your DO.
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Regulation demands efficiency to protect the customer, and we`re probably not there yet, but people coming in early and rushing around then finishing early is counter to doing that.
Actually you'll find it's not.
Efficiency is measured in items per measured work hours.
Coming in early, rushing around and finishing early makes no difference to efficiency because those measured hours are contracted.
However failure to meet standards, dragging it out and booking overtime does effect efficiency.

There are only two ways to increase efficiency.
Increase the items.
Cut the hours.
No matter what you think about "doing the job properly" one thing it definitely won't do is save our jobs.
Only dead fish follow the current
Mezza
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Post by Mezza »

So all these parcels to be done at these LAT offices.

What happens to items that are P739'd ?
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Post by rambo1 »

Woody Guthrie wrote:
Regulation demands efficiency to protect the customer, and we`re probably not there yet, but people coming in early and rushing around then finishing early is counter to doing that.
Actually you'll find it's not.
Efficiency is measured in items per measured work hours.
Coming in early, rushing around and finishing early makes no difference to efficiency because those measured hours are contracted.
However failure to meet standards, dragging it out and booking overtime does effect efficiency.

There are only two ways to increase efficiency.
Increase the items.
Cut the hours.
No matter what you think about "doing the job properly" one thing it definitely won't do is save our jobs.
Coming in early isn't work hrs, it's your own free time!!
Ren Hoëk
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"However failure to meet standards, dragging it out and booking overtime does effect efficiency"

FAILURE TO MEET STANDARDS! DRAGGING IT OUT! :Applause

Every-time a postie runs around, doesn't use their LWT, Hops a wall, walks across a garden, Reads the mail whilst walking, comes in early and works through their meal relief, Doesn't wear their seatbelt, speeds and drives dangerously, Fails to use correct lifting form when loading and unloading the van and doesn't do their van checks they are failing to meet the standards set out in RM's Safe systems of work policy. Dragging it out is doing the job correctly. Your attitude is the exact reason posties are feeling pressured and face bullying day in day out. Makes me sick. This company has existed and provided a decent service for over 500 years but suddenly over the past couple of years something is wrong. I wonder what has changed...
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Ren Hoëk wrote: Dragging it out is doing the job correctly.
Doing the job properly is doing the job properly.
Dragging it out is dragging it out.
The societies of consumption and squandering of material resources are incompatible with the idea of economic growth and a clean planet.
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Post by taurus88 »

Large parcels are probably the most efficiently delivered product in RM's range, so naturally, somebody has looked at them as being a problem and, therefore, the key to a solution to our efficiency woes. Some of you may contest the idea that they are currently delivered with greater efficiency than other products, but when you consider the greater cost to send a large parcel, you begin to see where there is more leeway for efficiency. Then, consider also that you know exactly where you stand with a large parcel. It isn't going through the letterbox. You're not going to fight with it to get it through. You knock/ring the bell, and it's a simple yes or no whether they're delivered or not (goodness knows what the LAT driver will do for undelivered items - ask the customer to collect from 50 miles away). On P & L duties, they are delivered while you are in the vicinity of the street they are on, along with other big parcels for that same street, meaning that you don't have one van travelling miles between drops. Consider also that they are not lugged around by a postie with a trolley, slowing him down with their weight and bulk. If they go undelivered, they go back into a van.

Large parcels are not a problem in themselves - where they cause problems is on duties that are too big, but that's not because of the parcels themselves. That's because of poor planning.

If you take out 1/6th of duties, and extend duties by 1/5th accordingly, there's nothing gained. For a start, big parcels shouldn't generally be taken by any postman while they are delivering their loops, or if they're on a HCT duty. The time that it takes for a walker's loops won't be affected at all, and it is more often than not the walker's loops that determine the ultimate length of a P & L duty. You'll still have the same number of plugs and light bulbs coming from China and Malaysia. You'll be going to the exact same number of houses. And you'll be expected to take another 100-200 drops, which will give you another dozen packets each. Hence, the problem RM is trying to solve here will lead to much bigger, and worse, problems - if indeed they do eventually follow this path.