Royal Mail, industry experts set out case for UK CDC

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Introducing collective defined contribution (CDC) schemes to the UK will require minimal changes to existing rules – but clear communication and strong governance arrangements are key to the concept’s success, experts told politicians today.

Parliament’s Work and Pensions Select Committee – an influential group of MPs from the UK’s lower house – heard from Royal Mail, the Communication Workers’ Union (CWU) and a number of industry representatives about how CDC schemes could be set up.

David Pitt-Watson, executive fellow at the London Business School and co-founder of Hermes Fund Managers’ stewardship services, told the committee that communication of the new schemes to members was “absolutely critical”.

He cited the Netherlands’ CDC model and how Dutch schemes dealt with the financial crisis of 2008-09. As funding levels fell, schemes were forced to cut pensions in payment. The Dutch regulator estimated in 2009 that schemes lost €94bn due to asset price falls.



David Pitt-Watson: CDC communication is “absolutely critical”

“The communication was critical because everybody thought they were absolutely promised that money, so you do need to be very clear,” Pitt-Watson said.

Royal Mail and CWU have agreed to replace the company’s defined benefit (DB) scheme with a CDC offering, subject to legislation being adopted.

Jon Millidge, Royal Mail’s group human resources director, said the company and union representatives had already prioritised communication with members as part of major changes to the company’s pension arrangements.

Millidge added: “The really key thing about this is about communications… The trustees will be responsible for member communications, for making sure people understand what the targets are, that they’re not promises, what can change, and what they can do about it.”

Benefits of CDC

Ray Ellis, national officer at the CWU, emphasised that the deal struck with Royal Mail would ensure “a level playing field” for all members.

Currently, he said, roughly two-thirds of staff were in the company’s DB scheme, which will close at the end of next month. The remaining third were in the traditional defined contribution scheme.

“A CDC scheme offers the potential for a similar level of outcome to the existing DB scheme for DB members, but at the same time it’s a substantial increase in the level of expectation for DC members,” Ellis said.

“It’s very important that we get back to this level playing field with one scheme for all. It offers the prospect of a wage in retirement and is a proper pension scheme. We do think it’s the way forward.”

Hilary Salt, senior actuary at First Actuarial and adviser to CWU during the negotiations with Royal Mail, said CDC plans could solve problems for employers.

She said: “Employers are really worrying now that they will get to a stage where a lot of employees reach retirement. The employer can’t make them leave the workforce because of age discrimination, and the employee cant afford to retire. For employers, the idea of managing everybody out of the workforce on capability grounds is an HR nightmare.”

An improved pension provision with an income in retirement could address this, Salt indicated.

Minimal law changes required

The UK passed laws in 2015 enabling CDC schemes, but secondary legislation is still required to make such pension arrangements possible. The Work and Pensions Select Committee’s inquiry was launched late last year to accelerate this move.

Sandeep Maudgil, partner at law firm Slaughter and May, said the main changes to current law involved ensuring that CDC schemes would not be treated as DB schemes on company balance sheets due to their pooling of longevity and investment risks.

“There might be some changes you’d need to make to avoid imposing [DC] design requirements that you don’t want in CDC,” Maudgil added. “Then you’d have to layer on specific transparency, governance and communications requirements to make sure that, if people are in one of these schemes, they know exactly what it is.”

Salt said CDC schemes could be facilitated with “small changes to existing legislation”.

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“The really key thing about this is about communications…

So why are members being asked to vote to accept a pension scheme that they know almost nothing about?

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Indeed. To date I know very little about the CDC other than the Dutch has it how it worked I don't know and did it live up to expectations ?

As if is, we're taking a leap in the unknown and expected for blind faith to vote for something we know little about

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Reading ray Ellis's comments above , I can't believe what I'm reading , the CDC scheme has the "potential" to offer similar outcomes to the dB scheme , but at the same time it's a substantial increase in the "level of expectation" for DC members and that it also offers the "prospect" of a wage in retirement .
Using rays language the deal has the "potential" to be not worth the paper it's written on , my "level of expectation" was a lot higher than what's on offer and the "prospect" of a wage in retirement , I'll not hold my breath.