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Pay and Four Pillars Agreement : Ballot Timetable : Ballot Opens: Monday 12th March 2018 Ballot Closes: Wednesday 28th March 2018

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Post by westham000 »

Thank you beamish. I’m shocked, that although we do the same work, I receive £77 a week more then my fellow colleagues in other parts of the country.

To be honest, thought the CWU were against regional pay rates. I don’t work in Inner London, I work in Outer London. And when I don’t do overtime, im finished by 2pm.
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Post by westham000 »

Thank you true blue.
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Post by clashcityrocker »

westham000 wrote:
To be honest, thought the CWU were against regional pay rates.
There aren't regional pay rates but incentives for working in "difficult" areas.
London weighting, distant islands, difficult to recruit - they all receive an allowance but I think only London has it in the basic pay.
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Post by maisymoo04 »

westham000 wrote:Thank you beamish. I’m shocked, that although we do the same work, I receive £77 a week more then my fellow colleagues in other parts of the country.

To be honest, thought the CWU were against regional pay rates. I don’t work in Inner London, I work in Outer London. And when I don’t do overtime, im finished by 2pm.
yes but west ham we can get a pint of lager for £2.45 mate not £4 odd is it down south mate :whistle :whistle just saying and goes for everything else :chuckle :chuckle :nervous :nervous
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Post by Lincox »

So nett taking out 6% pension and union dues, very little above £300 per week. £60 per day. No wonder we can't fund the NHS. Too much being paid out in working tax credits to subsidise big business paying unlivable wages to the staff whilst cramming billions of pounds away in the offshore bank accounts of upper management. This country is doomed unless there is an uprising of us peasants.
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Post by RedRich »

Lincox wrote:So nett taking out 6% pension and union dues, very little above £300 per week. £60 per day. No wonder we can't fund the NHS. Too much being paid out in working tax credits to subsidise big business paying unlivable wages to the staff whilst cramming billions of pounds away in the offshore bank accounts of upper management. This country is doomed unless there is an uprising of us peasants.
Spot on. Why are people happy to degrade themselves and make excuses for a company that makes millions of pounds of profit off your back but would rather pay shareholders than fulfill their pension obligations. They and others don't care about you, you are an expenses and like any other expense they will do whatever they can to drive that cost down and fill their own pockets. Why can a company not value it's staff and see them as an asset and take them along for the ride? I thought we had turned a corner and would be an example to the rest of the country to stand up and say " they did it why can't we". If this is the best we can achieve with a 90% mandate then we are doomed. It is a long and painful death towards poorer and poorer terms and conditions and i salute anyone prepared to stand up and fight against that.
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Post by tommyrep »

Andy51 wrote:Why don’t you doom &gloom merchants f##k off and get another job if you don’t like it because union have done a great job from where the first offer from Royal Mail offered us just ask,any nurse who got 1%rise pay how lucky you are
And why don't " eff off" and live on fantasy Island.
Once you return from la la land after some thought ! you may see through the s**t deal!
The public services have been badly treated I agree, but if RM can turn out this deal of the century and it's accepte, look for similar claw back from other workers pension schemes, T&Cs. Don't forget the CWU are a big Union nationally, pass off a crap deal for their long term share holders profit and the others will follow. Our nurses do not need you spouting hard line stories, they need our Support to prevent a sell off like us in RM, then their wage increases will be poor second to pensions and profit for the greedy on the stock exchange. Be wary of your advice Andy51, short sighted and patronising !
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Post by BELIAL »

three years of real term pay cuts, RPI at 4% and heading up.
Pensions negotiated away.
What on earth is going on?
Forget the race to the bottom ,this looks like a nice guided tour , but the destination is the same.
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Post by aiden01 »

BELIAL wrote:three years of real term pay cuts, RPI at 4% and heading up.
Pensions negotiated away.
What on earth is going on?
Forget the race to the bottom ,this looks like a nice guided tour , but the destination is the same.
Rpi 4% where did u get that figure from an supposedly heading down ffs
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Post by BELIAL »

aiden01 wrote:
BELIAL wrote:three years of real term pay cuts, RPI at 4% and heading up.
Pensions negotiated away.
What on earth is going on?
Forget the race to the bottom ,this looks like a nice guided tour , but the destination is the same.
Rpi 4% where did u get that figure from an supposedly heading down ffs
From that well respected organ of the orthodox financial establishment ; The Sunday Times (Money Section p. 14 column 7 para. 6 . Sunday 18/2/18 ) Sorry ,looks bad don't it.
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Post by yellowbelly »

BELIAL wrote:
aiden01 wrote:
BELIAL wrote:three years of real term pay cuts, RPI at 4% and heading up.
Pensions negotiated away.
What on earth is going on?
Forget the race to the bottom ,this looks like a nice guided tour , but the destination is the same.
Rpi 4% where did u get that figure from an supposedly heading down ffs
From that well respected organ of the orthodox financial establishment ; The Sunday Times (Money Section p. 14 column 7 para. 6 . Sunday 18/2/18 ) Sorry ,looks bad don't it.
And just to back that up - its the figure from the ONS

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Post by Chelseablue »

Shakes my head at some , ,,, the job is a killer physically esp if youve did it for years . We deserve the best we can get .
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Post by k979aaa »

Andy51 wrote:Why don’t you doom &gloom merchants f##k off and get another job if you don’t like it because union have done a great job from where the first offer from Royal Mail offered us just ask,any nurse who got 1%rise pay how lucky you are
Well Andy51 by your user name you will not be working till 67 years of age just because you think it is a good deal not all of us do as for doom and gloom it saddens me when postmen turn on their fellow workers and yet just because I do not agree with you I will not tell ye where to go or where to find gainful employment as a nurse or other fellow undervalued worker!
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Post by cpsteve »

Will the new pension be legal by the time we vote on it? if not how can we vote on it.