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Government puts defined ambition pensions on ice

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The government believes now isn't the time to introduce the concept of collective defined contribution (CDC) schemes in the UK, as the market "needs time and space to adjust to other reforms underway," said Guy Opperman.


The minister for pensions and financial inclusion argued, in a letter to Alex Cunningham – at the time still shadow pensions minister – that risk sharing is an area that the government will "revisit once there has been an opportunity for that to happen".

CDC schemes are also known as a form of "defined ambition" scheme and differ from defined benefit schemes, since they do not guarantee certain incomes in retirement.

Instead, CDC have a target or "ambition" amount they will pay out, based on a long term, mixed risk investment plan.

These schemes also differ from the traditional defined contribution (DC) plans, since they do not produce individual pension pots.

They invest savings in larger collective pots instead, which then provide an income to individuals during their retirement.

The Work & Pensions select committee launched an inquiry on these type of schemes in November, since they have the "potential to address some of the concerns that policy makers and the public have about the current pension offer".

The Pension Schemes Act 2015 created by the 2010 to 2015 coalition government defined "shared risk/defined ambition" or CDC as a distinct pension category.

However, regulations under the act to bring them into effect have not yet been introduced.

In October 2015, the government announced the plans would be shelved indefinitely so as not to distract from other major reforms such as auto-enrolment and pension freedoms.

In the document, seen by FTAdviser, Mr Opperman also said that "significant legislation" for CDC schemes to come to life would need to be introduced, and the existing rules would need to be changed.

He said: "We continue to believe that significant legislation would be needed to enable and regulate this type of pension.

"Whilst we continue to be interested in collective pensions, the governments view is that because the breath of its scope, the legislative framework set out in the 2015 Act is not the most effective way of introducing the provisions needed to provide for the collective schemes currently being called for."

Mr Opperman argued that since 2015, the appetite from employers and providers for CDC schemes "has not been forthcoming".

The only exception is Royal Mail, which is in talks with the Communication Workers Union to create a CDC as a way of solving its pension dispute, which the government is "watching developments with interest," Mr Opperman added.

However, this is not the view of all stakeholders.

Unite, the UK's largest trade union with more than 1.4 million members, would welcome the introduction of CDC schemes.

In its submission to the Work and Pensions committee inquiry, the union said: "We believe CDC schemes have the potential to deliver much better benefits for employees than the individual DC schemes that are becoming the norm.

"Once established, we believe they could grow rapidly in the UK as their advantages are demonstrated both to employees and to employers.

"It is vital this is taken forward in the interests of DC contributors as the main beneficiaries of current DC arrangements are the 'pensions industry', and CDC will intensify competitive pressure driving increased efficiency and value for money for members in DC schemes generally."

For Mike Lacey, partner at Berkshire-based financial adviser firm Bowman Pension Consulting, the success of auto-enrolment means that workers are more aware of pensions than they have been for some years.

He said: "So, the introduction of some kind of shared ambition pension would not be a huge leap in the dark for them.

"We can also look to the Dutch experience – they are some years ahead of us here and shared ambition appears to be working well for them."
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Looks like the government want to bury this as quickly as possible. Our rep will faint when he hears about this. He's been trying to sell this to the members like hell, and I've been telling him all along that a wage in retirement wont happen. I can see a lot of very angry members kicking off very soon. :cuppa
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heapsy wrote:Looks like the government want to bury this as quickly as possible. Our rep will faint when he hears about this. He's been trying to sell this to the members like hell, and I've been telling him all along that a wage in retirement wont happen. I can see a lot of very angry members kicking off very soon. :cuppa
So where does this leave our agreement now then ? Union have said nothing agreed until everything is agreed , I can see some kind of transitional pension agreement putting in place that will never actually materialise.
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I wouldn't read too much into this, it's an old quote by a pension minister who knows nothing about pensions.
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fishtank wrote:I wouldn't read too much into this, it's an old quote by a pension minister who knows nothing about pensions.
Hope you're right mate. Nobody WANTS to go on strike etc. I'm sure others feel the same. Just a bit frustrating when you hear this sort of thing.