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Christmas tips

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dave72
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Re: Christmas tips

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Not had a penny this year :left:

I did over £400 and lots of gifts of wine, spirits, chocolates and a sack of spuds last year

Damn that summer re-pick and me losing my old job I had for 12 years :arrrghhh
Barbel
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Re: Christmas tips

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Another £20 today. :nana
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Re: Christmas tips

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Blimey, I got another £15 today and I'm now at the hugely massive sum of £57, plus a Christmas present!
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Re: Christmas tips

Post by ewancurze »

£98 so far.
Barbel
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Re: Christmas tips

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I got 60 quid today from just one customer! :dance
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Re: Christmas tips

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You might want to delete the last post, anything over 30 pounds from one person is seen as a bribe!
Barbel
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Re: Christmas tips

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jimmynailsalive wrote:You might want to delete the last post, anything over 30 pounds from one person is seen as a bribe!

You're kidding!? No bribing going on, just deliver in an affluent area where 60 pounds is like 6 to them.
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Re: Christmas tips

Post by aiden01 »

Barbel wrote:
jimmynailsalive wrote:You might want to delete the last post, anything over 30 pounds from one person is seen as a bribe!

You're kidding!? No bribing going on, just deliver in an affluent area where 60 pounds is like 6 to them.
yeah 6p :Very Happy
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Re: Christmas tips

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A bit hard to find on the RM website.. it's buried away in the myroyalmail.com website and then it's a pdf file, but no mention of the amount is given in it!
Code of Business Standards_1.pdf
Page 12
Gifts and hospitality
It is important not to accept any gift, payment, bribe, favour or inducement that might influence, or appear to influence, your position at Royal Mail Group

You must:
  • Not solicit or accept any private arrangements for gifts, discounts or concessions in connection with any contract for goods or services to which the company is a party

    Not ask for, or accept, sporting or charitable sponsorship from an organisation that has (or is seeking) a contract to supply the company, or is in competition with it for the supply of a contract. You must tell your manager about any plan to accept sponsorship and ask if there is any conflict with this

    Not provide or accept hospitality or entertainment which, because of its expense or nature, may cause the company embarrassment or bring it into disrepute

    Record and gain approval for and gifts and hospitality as set out in the Gifts and Hospitality Policy


This is a BBC news report on the same thing, from 4 December 2011
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-16023127" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Royal Mail makes bribery warning over festive tips

The Royal Mail has warned staff not to accept Christmas gifts valued at more than £30 for fear of bribery charges.

In guidance on its website, Royal Mail said although it is the "season of goodwill", staff needed to be careful not to "fall foul of the Bribery Act".

The new Bribery Act, which came into force on 1 July, made it illegal to offer or receive bribes, and to fail to prevent bribery.

Royal Mail said tips could be accepted, but not in return for favours.

The organisation's My Royal Mail website, which is designed for staff, said under the heading Christmas and the Bribery Act: "It's the season of goodwill. But it's important to be careful about accepting gifts so you don't fall foul of the Bribery Act."

'Politely declined'
"A bribe is not just about money, it could be any gift, hospitality or favour," it also said.

Under the heading "other guidelines", it advises staff to reject gifts worth more than £30.

"Gifts may only be given or accepted up to a value of £30; any gifts over £30 must be politely declined," it said.

Royal Mail spokesman Ian McKay said postmen and women have been able to accept Christmas tips for many years, but the company had to take the Bribery Act "very seriously".

"It is entirely up to customers if they wish to give a tip to postmen and women at Christmas and to what value," he said.

"Like all other major companies, we take the Bribery Act very seriously and have a duty to clearly communicate to all of our staff what it means for them.

"We have made it absolutely clear to our people that Christmas tips are allowed."

Before the new bribery law, similar regulations dated back to 1906 but the Bribery Act also covers bribing a foreign public official and a corporate offence of failing to stop a bribe on behalf of your organisation.
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Re: Christmas tips

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https://www.myroyalmail.com/news/nation ... ribery-act" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
It's the season of goodwill.

But it's important to be careful about accepting gifts so you don't fall foul of the Bribery Act.

Christmas tips are allowed. But they should never be accepted in return for favours, for example, earlier delivery, enhanced collection etc.

Other guidelines
Bribes must never be offered or given – nor requested or accepted. A bribe is not just about money, it could be any gift, hospitality or favour
Gifts may only be given or accepted up to a value of £30; any gifts over £30 must be politely declined
Hospitality may only be given or accepted where there is a business reason. Limits apply:

o Hospitality less than £25 per head in the course of business meetings is allowed and does not require pre-approval or registration

o Hospitality greater than £25 per head requires line manager pre-approval and must be recorded in the Gifts and Hospitality register

o Hospitality greater than £100 per head also requires a functional director's pre-approval and must be recorded in the Gifts and Hospitality register.

Penalties
The penalties under the Bribery Act are severe:
Individuals could face unlimited fines and imprisonment for up to 10 years
Companies face loss of reputation, unlimited fines and could be barred from participating in public procurement contracts.
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wabbithunta
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Re: Christmas tips

Post by wabbithunta »

Thanks TBT

I was looking in the wrong part. I knew I had seen it on there last week but for the life of me I couldn't find it. :d'oh!

Surely, if you get a tip from a customer you're going to make sure you'll "look after them", to improve your chances of getting a tip from them again the following Christmas? Ergo it could be construed as bribery, irrespective of the amount they tip? :hmmmm
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bobthepostie
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Re: Christmas tips

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Used to make £400 plus on old duty. First year on this duty since resign and at £82+ a few bottles of wine. Most of the £ i've been given are from customers I haven't really spoken to much and the ones that I speak to and deliver parcels to EVERYDAY have given me hee haw. :nana
Sir Henry
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Re: Christmas tips

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bobthepostie wrote:Used to make £400 plus on old duty. First year on this duty since resign and at £82+ a few bottles of wine. Most of the £ i've been given are from customers I haven't really spoken to much and the ones that I speak to and deliver parcels to EVERYDAY have given me hee haw. :nana
Maybe they think that the pleasure of their company, witty urbane banter and the reflected glory of their presence is reward enough?

I agree, I find the ones you do the most favours for, the never ins, the always abeds, the pop it through the porch windows, the leave it at my mums, are the ones you get sfa from.
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Darren Bent
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Re: Christmas tips

Post by Darren Bent »

Bribery act is good for bank managers, mps, police officer, etc but I don't think Postman should be covered. We still have to deliver to X amount of house every day.
glass joe
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Re: Christmas tips

Post by glass joe »

up to 80 pound someone gave me a tip and he only moved in last month. :dance will give the people who tip me a card on xmas eve.