Deliberately Delaying Of mail

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Whats the question ?

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Report it to TNT management, other than that, not a lot.
TNT are not regulated or have laws restricting them like RM do.

[TrueBlueTerrier]

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2000/26/section/83" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

83 Interfering with the mail: postal operators.

(1)A person who is engaged in the business of a postal operator commits an offence if, contrary to his duty and without reasonable excuse, he—
(a)intentionally delays or opens a postal packet in the course of its transmission by post, or
(b)intentionally opens a mail-bag.
(2)Subsection (1) does not apply to the delaying or opening of a postal packet or the opening of a mail-bag under the authority of—
(a)this Act or any other enactment (including, in particular, in pursuance of a warrant issued under any other enactment), or
(b)any directly applicable Community provision.
(3)Subsection (1) does not apply to the delaying or opening of a postal packet in accordance with any terms and conditions applicable to its transmission by post.
(4)Subsection (1) does not apply to the delaying of a postal packet as a result of industrial action in contemplation or furtherance of a trade dispute.
(5)In subsection (4) “trade dispute” has the meaning given by section 244 of the M1Trade Union and Labour Relations (Consolidation) Act 1992 or Article 127 of the M2Trade Union and Labour Relations (Northern Ireland) Order 1995; and the reference to industrial action shall be construed in accordance with that Act or (as the case may be) that Order.
(6)A person who commits an offence under subsection (1) shall be liable—
(a)on summary conviction, to a fine not exceeding the statutory maximum or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding six months or to both,
(b)on conviction on indictment, to a fine or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding two years or to both.

[NWpostie]

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2000/26/section/83

83 Interfering with the mail: postal operators.

(1)A person who is engaged in the business of a postal operator commits an offence if, contrary to his duty and without reasonable excuse, he—
(a)intentionally delays or opens a postal packet in the course of its transmission by post, or
(b)intentionally opens a mail-bag.
(2)Subsection (1) does not apply to the delaying or opening of a postal packet or the opening of a mail-bag under the authority of—
(a)this Act or any other enactment (including, in particular, in pursuance of a warrant issued under any other enactment), or
(b)any directly applicable Community provision.
(3)Subsection (1) does not apply to the delaying or opening of a postal packet in accordance with any terms and conditions applicable to its transmission by post.
(4)Subsection (1) does not apply to the delaying of a postal packet as a result of industrial action in contemplation or furtherance of a trade dispute.
(5)In subsection (4) “trade dispute” has the meaning given by section 244 of the M1Trade Union and Labour Relations (Consolidation) Act 1992 or Article 127 of the M2Trade Union and Labour Relations (Northern Ireland) Order 1995; and the reference to industrial action shall be construed in accordance with that Act or (as the case may be) that Order.
(6)A person who commits an offence under subsection (1) shall be liable—
(a)on summary conviction, to a fine not exceeding the statutory maximum or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding six months or to both,
(b)on conviction on indictment, to a fine or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding two years or to both.

Does this apply to private operators such as TNT as it doesn't say so explicitly ?

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The Postal Services Act only counts for Royal Mail ?

[TrueBlueTerrier]

Not being a lawyer I can't say with certainty, but it does say Postal Operator.

[TrueBlueTerrier]

The Postal Services Act only counts for Royal Mail ?

No: http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/200 ... sion/4/2/1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Restriction on provision of postal services

20.Under the Act, the monopoly will be replaced by a system of licensing. Licence holders will be able to convey, in accordance with the terms of their licence, letters worth less than £1 or weighing less than 350 grams (see section 7). Subsection (2) makes it an offence to convey letters without the necessary licence.

21.Subsection (1) establishes that no person shall convey a letter without a licence granted by the Commission. Exceptions to this prohibition are set out at section 7.

22.Subsections (2) to (5) create three methods of enforcing the prohibition in subsection (1). The first is to bring criminal proceedings for an offence under subsection (2). The second is to bring civil proceedings for an injunction interdict or other appropriate relief or remedy under subsection (4). Criminal prosecutions can only be instituted by or on behalf of the Commission or the Secretary of State or, in Scotland, will be dealt with by the Lord Advocate. (The Lord Advocate generally controls prosecutions in Scotland.) Civil proceedings under subsection (4) may be brought by, or on behalf of, the Commission or the Secretary of State. There is also provision in subsection (5) enabling civil proceedings to be brought by any person who suffers loss or damage.

23.Subsection (6) makes clear that conveyance for the purposes of section 6 and section 7(1) includes the incidental acts of receiving the letter, collecting or delivering it

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Two points have sprinted to mind.

1: in accordance with the terms of their licence
Has anyone seen TNT licence ?

2: Why then are TNT not accountable to the UPS ?
The UPS is written in the Postal Services Act. If TNT are held to the same laws as RM are, then why is TNT not restricted to the UPS ?

[cyclemech1]

Can anyone give me any answers to the question

TNT are deliberately delaying mail by not sorting the hand sorted mail that is rejected by the machines , mail can be months yes months old

Head Office has been informed but they are not interested , could give you specific mail types & the big customers that are affected if someone would like to give any answers to the question

Which they no doubt pass to RM to deliver under DSA, so it looks like RM has delayed it?