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zero hour contract

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ennabee
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Re: zero hour contract

Post by ennabee »

dontstopbelievin wrote:
ennabee wrote:On top of the "too many casuals" issue, RM are now only ordering casuals at the last minute as a matter of policy. It seems to be too often to be accidental. Most calls are now "Can you get in straight away?" or "Can you start in 45 mins?"
has that been for shifts during the day? haven't done a day shift in a while
Afternoon/Evening, only one or two a week - 4-5 hours a shift. I don't get offered nights anymore.
intelligentsia
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Re: zero hour contract

Post by intelligentsia »

Verging wrote:Yes it normally goes quiet.

One of our problems now is that Angard/RM, at our MC, have taken on new casuals (with AWR casuals lucky to get more than 10 hours a week before they took on new casuals). Looks like it is time to move on.

Apart from new casuals being cheaper the number of hours that we were getting did not justify the taking on of more casuals.
Another worrying and unfair practice that is happening at a SW mail centre is that ex-Angard casuals who have been given p/t contract hours and RM contracts recently ARE ALSO ASKED TO DO EXTRA/OVERTIME HOURS by certain shift managers. The whole "selection" process was unfair and flawed based on the whim of an individual shift manager. Nepotism and perversity...some excellent candidates were not chosen. WHY?
Totally unfair and unacceptable selection behaviour and procedures.

Any extra hours required to sort mail and achieve targets should be given to Angard staff and not RM regulars who ALREADY have contracted hours!!!

Regulars offered O/T should refuse and managers should not chose their underperforming "pets" but select instead :tried and tested, reliable, punctual and top performing Angardees irrespective of AWR!

Hence we have a completely divided workforce...why should those who already have i.e. hours have more?? Totally greedy, corrupt practice and inequitable
dontstopbelievin
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Re: zero hour contract

Post by dontstopbelievin »

gone quiet again :sad:
Justanotherstar
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Re: zero hour contract

Post by Justanotherstar »

dontstopbelievin wrote:gone quiet again :sad:

Yep :( been told it should pick up in the summer holidays (well we can dream lol)
Verging
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Re: zero hour contract

Post by Verging »

Justanotherstar wrote:
dontstopbelievin wrote:gone quiet again :sad:

Yep :( been told it should pick up in the summer holidays (well we can dream lol)
Never has for me in 3 years of casual work (both Angard and RM).
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Justanotherstar
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Re: zero hour contract

Post by Justanotherstar »

Verging wrote:
Justanotherstar wrote:
dontstopbelievin wrote:gone quiet again :sad:

Yep :( been told it should pick up in the summer holidays (well we can dream lol)
Never has for me in 3 years of casual work (both Angard and RM).

DREAM KILLER!!!!! :cry
ennabee
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Re: zero hour contract

Post by ennabee »

Was looking at last years diary

late June/July would have been quiet without a few night shifts, August was very quiet, two blank weeks, until four days on the trot after the bank holiday. It seemed to pick up a bit after that.
dontstopbelievin
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Re: zero hour contract

Post by dontstopbelievin »

ennabee wrote:Was looking at last years diary

late June/July would have been quiet without a few night shifts, August was very quiet, two blank weeks, until four days on the trot after the bank holiday. It seemed to pick up a bit after that.
thanks :)

what happens if you book a days holiday does it freeze that week and not count until after?
Verging
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Re: zero hour contract

Post by Verging »

dontstopbelievin wrote:
ennabee wrote:Was looking at last years diary

late June/July would have been quiet without a few night shifts, August was very quiet, two blank weeks, until four days on the trot after the bank holiday. It seemed to pick up a bit after that.
thanks :)

what happens if you book a days holiday does it freeze that week and not count until after?
There are various rumours that booking holiday freezes the count but that you are limited to the number of weeks you can use to freeze the count back - I have heard 2 weeks only (giving you a total of 8 weeks before losing AWR) some people have been told no limit. Angard are being there usual helpful selves and not confirming the "rules".
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fishtank
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Re: zero hour contract

Post by fishtank »

Image
good times, bad times you know I've had my share
dontstopbelievin
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Re: zero hour contract

Post by dontstopbelievin »

if you ring for shifts is it the 0845 number you call?
Verging
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Re: zero hour contract

Post by Verging »

dontstopbelievin wrote:if you ring for shifts is it the 0845 number you call?
Yes and also the direct dial number of the person you want to speak to - if you have been given it. We sometimes get these in texts when they want to fill a shift quickly.
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deanomac83
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Re: zero hour contract

Post by deanomac83 »

fishtank wrote:Image
Disgraceful. Cable doesn't seem to give a toss though :vcfo
Justanotherstar
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Re: zero hour contract

Post by Justanotherstar »

intelligentsia wrote:
Verging wrote:Yes it normally goes quiet.

One of our problems now is that Angard/RM, at our MC, have taken on new casuals (with AWR casuals lucky to get more than 10 hours a week before they took on new casuals). Looks like it is time to move on.

Apart from new casuals being cheaper the number of hours that we were getting did not justify the taking on of more casuals.
Another worrying and unfair practice that is happening at a SW mail centre is that ex-Angard casuals who have been given p/t contract hours and RM contracts recently ARE ALSO ASKED TO DO EXTRA/OVERTIME HOURS by certain shift managers. The whole "selection" process was unfair and flawed based on the whim of an individual shift manager. Nepotism and perversity...some excellent candidates were not chosen. WHY?
Totally unfair and unacceptable selection behaviour and procedures.

Any extra hours required to sort mail and achieve targets should be given to Angard staff and not RM regulars who ALREADY have contracted hours!!!

Regulars offered O/T should refuse and managers should not chose their underperforming "pets" but select instead :tried and tested, reliable, punctual and top performing Angardees irrespective of AWR!

Hence we have a completely divided workforce...why should those who already have i.e. hours have more?? Totally greedy, corrupt practice and inequitable


I know i've posted since this was posted but man this is the most retarded thing i've ever read...

Angard casuals are only called in if they can't fill the sheet with RM staff...we are basically emergency extras and to say staff with part time contracts should refuse hours is the most stupid thing I have ever heard, they have to feed their families and pay their bills...why would they turn down work...

Royal mail have no obligation to give us work and the overtime is based on an aggregate system decided by the HR staff NOT the shift managers!!

Some people are just too stupid for words.
dontstopbelievin
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Re: zero hour contract

Post by dontstopbelievin »

Did anyone else get a card about Christmas from RM today?