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Poisonous' privatisation of RM will cost the Cons votes
Poisonous' privatisation of Royal Mail will cost the Conservatives votes in 2015, Bow Group warns Tory MPs
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The “poisonous” privatisation of Royal Mail should be halted because it will cost the Tories votes at the next general election, a leading rightwing think-tank tells Conservative MPs today.
The intervention from the right of centre Bow Group will alarm the ministers who have told Parliament they want to sell off Royal Mail by March next year.
In a letter to every Tory MP, being sent on Monday, Ben Harris-Quinney, chairman of the Bow Group, said the Government should call off of the sale.
He said that the £1billion that could be raised from the sale was “hardly a sum that can compensate for the national and political damage it will cause.
“Ministers can save themselves a lot of headaches if they argue that tax payers’ interests must come first, and therefore the sale is postponed.”
Mr Harris-Quinney warned that the price of stamps was likely to rise when people can least afford it, and its sale would be a “poisonous legacy” for the Tory party.
He said: “It is of great importance that the Conservative Party and the Government pause and consider the implications of pushing through privatisation at this time.
“It is likely to be deeply unpopular with the British public, prices will rise at a time we can least afford it, an amenity that many communities consider crucial will be removed and a sell off will also impact on the significant heritage of Royal Mail.
“The privatisation of Royal Mail is likely to swiftly form a poisonous legacy for the Government now, and a poisonous legacy for the Conservative Party going forward.”
The Bow Group is the oldest Conservative think tank in Britain, tracing its roots back to 1951.
Mr Harris-Quinney added privatisation could endanger “the financial stability of Post Offices” in rural areas by separating Royal Mail further from the 11,500-network.
He urged the Conservative MPs to make their concerns known to the Tory Postal Services minister Michael Fallon, who is in charge of the sell-off.
He said: “The 2011 Postal Services Act was passed with little fanfare or debate ... Since that time there has been worryingly little political debate about the merits of privatising Royal Mail.
“We have gone from an unheralded Act of Parliament to an equally unheralded privatisation without fully considering the impact this might have on the postal service itself, our national infrastructure and on our party.
“I believe we should apply some simple political tests before proceeding with this controversial sale – has the case for privatisation been made? Is it the best deal for the country? Is it popular with the public? Is it politically beneficial to our party? In all cases the answer is clearly 'no'.
“Electorally it could be quite damaging for the Conservative Party, which might explain the lack of debate about the issue.”
In a speech last month, Mr Fallon said that privatising Britain's national postal operator was “the way to put Royal Mail onto a long-term sustainable basis”.
Cash raised from the privatisation would help Royal Mail to “modernise and become more efficient and competitive”, Mr Fallon said. But he stressed that the Government has still not decided whether to float Royal Mail on the London Stock Market, or sell a stake in it to a rival firm.
Letter from Benjamin Harris-Quinney, Chairman – The Bow Group, to every Conservative MP in the House of Commons
10 May 2013
Royal Mail privatisation
The 2011 Postal Services Act was passed with little fanfare or debate. The product of a Liberal Democrat Secretary of State, it was also our coalition partner that steered that legislation through Parliament.
Since that time there has been worryingly little political debate about the merits of privatising Royal Mail.
We have gone from an unheralded Act of Parliament to an equally unheralded privatisation without fully considering the impact this might have on the postal service itself, our national infrastructure and on our party.
Only recently a respected independent postal services economist, Ian Senior, predicted that the universal postal service will soon disappear. Ill-conceived privatisation will surely act to hasten that eventuality.
It is of great importance that the Conservative Party and the Government pause and consider the implications of pushing through privatisation at this time.
It is likely to be deeply unpopular with the British public, prices will rise at a time we can least afford it, an amenity that many communities consider crucial will be removed and a sell off will also impact on the significant heritage of Royal Mail. The privatisation of Royal Mail is likely to swiftly form a poisonous legacy for the Government now, and a poisonous legacy for the Conservative Party going forward.
You will be only too aware of the importance of both Royal Mail and Post Office services, especially in rural communities. They are a highly valued part of the fabric of local life and relied upon by many as the sole local amenity for hundreds of communities. However, the Post Office network has already been separated from Royal Mail and privatisation can only lead in the long term to further fragmentation thus endangering the financial stability of Post Offices yet further.
I believe we should apply some simple political tests before proceeding with this controversial sale – has the case for privatisation been made? Is it the best deal for the country? Is it popular with the public? Is it politically beneficial to our party? In all cases the answer is clearly “no”. Electorally it could be quite damaging for the Conservative Party, which might explain the lack of debate about the issue.
This is not a left/right issue – successive governments have tried to sell Royal Mail. In addition the economic outlook suggests that the tax payer will not be able to realise full value from a sale at this time. Indeed it is estimated that revenue from a sale might be as low as £1bn – hardly a sum that can compensate for the national and political damage it will cause. Ministers can save themselves a lot of headaches if they argue that tax payer’s interests must come first, and therefore the sale is postponed.
The Bow Group will be holding an event in June to discuss this issue in more depth and we will send you an invitation nearer the time. In the meantime if you share these concerns, please write to Michael Fallon and let him know or get in touch at the address provided above.
Yours sincerely
Benjamin Harris-Quinney
Chairman, The Bow Group
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The “poisonous” privatisation of Royal Mail should be halted because it will cost the Tories votes at the next general election, a leading rightwing think-tank tells Conservative MPs today.
The intervention from the right of centre Bow Group will alarm the ministers who have told Parliament they want to sell off Royal Mail by March next year.
In a letter to every Tory MP, being sent on Monday, Ben Harris-Quinney, chairman of the Bow Group, said the Government should call off of the sale.
He said that the £1billion that could be raised from the sale was “hardly a sum that can compensate for the national and political damage it will cause.
“Ministers can save themselves a lot of headaches if they argue that tax payers’ interests must come first, and therefore the sale is postponed.”
Mr Harris-Quinney warned that the price of stamps was likely to rise when people can least afford it, and its sale would be a “poisonous legacy” for the Tory party.
He said: “It is of great importance that the Conservative Party and the Government pause and consider the implications of pushing through privatisation at this time.
“It is likely to be deeply unpopular with the British public, prices will rise at a time we can least afford it, an amenity that many communities consider crucial will be removed and a sell off will also impact on the significant heritage of Royal Mail.
“The privatisation of Royal Mail is likely to swiftly form a poisonous legacy for the Government now, and a poisonous legacy for the Conservative Party going forward.”
The Bow Group is the oldest Conservative think tank in Britain, tracing its roots back to 1951.
Mr Harris-Quinney added privatisation could endanger “the financial stability of Post Offices” in rural areas by separating Royal Mail further from the 11,500-network.
He urged the Conservative MPs to make their concerns known to the Tory Postal Services minister Michael Fallon, who is in charge of the sell-off.
He said: “The 2011 Postal Services Act was passed with little fanfare or debate ... Since that time there has been worryingly little political debate about the merits of privatising Royal Mail.
“We have gone from an unheralded Act of Parliament to an equally unheralded privatisation without fully considering the impact this might have on the postal service itself, our national infrastructure and on our party.
“I believe we should apply some simple political tests before proceeding with this controversial sale – has the case for privatisation been made? Is it the best deal for the country? Is it popular with the public? Is it politically beneficial to our party? In all cases the answer is clearly 'no'.
“Electorally it could be quite damaging for the Conservative Party, which might explain the lack of debate about the issue.”
In a speech last month, Mr Fallon said that privatising Britain's national postal operator was “the way to put Royal Mail onto a long-term sustainable basis”.
Cash raised from the privatisation would help Royal Mail to “modernise and become more efficient and competitive”, Mr Fallon said. But he stressed that the Government has still not decided whether to float Royal Mail on the London Stock Market, or sell a stake in it to a rival firm.
Letter from Benjamin Harris-Quinney, Chairman – The Bow Group, to every Conservative MP in the House of Commons
10 May 2013
Royal Mail privatisation
The 2011 Postal Services Act was passed with little fanfare or debate. The product of a Liberal Democrat Secretary of State, it was also our coalition partner that steered that legislation through Parliament.
Since that time there has been worryingly little political debate about the merits of privatising Royal Mail.
We have gone from an unheralded Act of Parliament to an equally unheralded privatisation without fully considering the impact this might have on the postal service itself, our national infrastructure and on our party.
Only recently a respected independent postal services economist, Ian Senior, predicted that the universal postal service will soon disappear. Ill-conceived privatisation will surely act to hasten that eventuality.
It is of great importance that the Conservative Party and the Government pause and consider the implications of pushing through privatisation at this time.
It is likely to be deeply unpopular with the British public, prices will rise at a time we can least afford it, an amenity that many communities consider crucial will be removed and a sell off will also impact on the significant heritage of Royal Mail. The privatisation of Royal Mail is likely to swiftly form a poisonous legacy for the Government now, and a poisonous legacy for the Conservative Party going forward.
You will be only too aware of the importance of both Royal Mail and Post Office services, especially in rural communities. They are a highly valued part of the fabric of local life and relied upon by many as the sole local amenity for hundreds of communities. However, the Post Office network has already been separated from Royal Mail and privatisation can only lead in the long term to further fragmentation thus endangering the financial stability of Post Offices yet further.
I believe we should apply some simple political tests before proceeding with this controversial sale – has the case for privatisation been made? Is it the best deal for the country? Is it popular with the public? Is it politically beneficial to our party? In all cases the answer is clearly “no”. Electorally it could be quite damaging for the Conservative Party, which might explain the lack of debate about the issue.
This is not a left/right issue – successive governments have tried to sell Royal Mail. In addition the economic outlook suggests that the tax payer will not be able to realise full value from a sale at this time. Indeed it is estimated that revenue from a sale might be as low as £1bn – hardly a sum that can compensate for the national and political damage it will cause. Ministers can save themselves a lot of headaches if they argue that tax payer’s interests must come first, and therefore the sale is postponed.
The Bow Group will be holding an event in June to discuss this issue in more depth and we will send you an invitation nearer the time. In the meantime if you share these concerns, please write to Michael Fallon and let him know or get in touch at the address provided above.
Yours sincerely
Benjamin Harris-Quinney
Chairman, The Bow Group
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Re: Poisonous' privatisation of RM will cost the Cons votes
From a right-wing think tank..published in the Telegraph?
Has my coffee been spiked again?
Has my coffee been spiked again?
good times, bad times you know I've had my share
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'Poisonous' privatisation'
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The “poisonous” privatisation of Royal Mail should be halted because it will cost the Tories votes at the next general election, a leading rightwing think-tank tells Conservative MPs today................
The “poisonous” privatisation of Royal Mail should be halted because it will cost the Tories votes at the next general election, a leading rightwing think-tank tells Conservative MPs today................
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Re: 'Poisonous' privatisation'
What is the chance of them listening?
Wouldn't be the first time the tories have done something that will cost them.
Plus, it is unlikely that any party will have a majority, so another coalition will be on the way. Makes no difference.
Wouldn't be the first time the tories have done something that will cost them.
Plus, it is unlikely that any party will have a majority, so another coalition will be on the way. Makes no difference.
Sometimes, I wish I wasn't a Rep.
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Re: 'Poisonous' privatisation'
So we've got the "right of centre Bow Group" on our side
but for the wrong reasons
and it won't do any good 
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Re: Poisonous' privatisation of RM will cost the Cons votes
the opposition against Privatisation seems to be growing , when the right wing press have their doubts you never know ??? hopefully we can do our bit now and get a big vote for Strike Action in the consultative ballot and this will at least add a further seed of doubt.
"why should it just be the bankers, politicians and the idle rich who get all the best things ? we demand a standard of living for our members that enables them to share in the fine wines and times that the likes of Cameron and his Eton buddies take for granted " - the late great Bob Crow RIP.
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Re: Poisonous' privatisation of RM will cost the Cons votes
very much doubt it will cost the tories seats 2 b honest. in the 80s they shut the pits. sold gas, water and steel and were in power till 97. europe is as per usual doing the tories in
the path of my life is strewn with cowpats from the devils own satanic herd
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Re: Poisonous' privatisation of RM will cost the Cons votes
The tories are apparently going to offer a vote/referendum on the EU in 2017. A 'bribe' to secure votes? 
Sometimes, I wish I wasn't a Rep.
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Re: 'Poisonous' privatisation'
I can't quite work out how I managed to start this thread, but end up third in the running........Cut Off King wrote:http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... y-MPs.html
The “poisonous” privatisation of Royal Mail should be halted because it will cost the Tories votes at the next general election, a leading rightwing think-tank tells Conservative MPs today................
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Re: 'Poisonous' privatisation'
I merged your thread with one I had started about 8 hours before yours.Cut Off King wrote:I can't quite work out how I managed to start this thread, but end up third in the running........Cut Off King wrote:http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... y-MPs.html
The “poisonous” privatisation of Royal Mail should be halted because it will cost the Tories votes at the next general election, a leading rightwing think-tank tells Conservative MPs today................![]()
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I stand corrected and humbly appologiseTrueBlueTerrier wrote:I merged your thread with one I had started about 8 hours before yours.Cut Off King wrote:I can't quite work out how I managed to start this thread, but end up third in the running........Cut Off King wrote:http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... y-MPs.html
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