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Those Killed in Dog Attacks in the UK

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Read the list pretty the same types of dogs as in the USA list, you do not need large dogs, any dog that turns must be destroyed, a small to medium is enough and if they turn you can easily fight them off.
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On average 4 people are killed every year in the UK by bee and wasp stings,lets make summer safer kill all the yellow flying things.
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DB1100 wrote:On average 4 people are killed every year in the UK by bee and wasp stings,lets make summer safer kill all the yellow flying things.

The difference being those deaths are in most respects "natural" in that there is no human factor involved other than the victim.
In the case of dog attacks of which there are many thousands of non-fatal but serious cases...there is almost always some human factor and/or failure involved.
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fishtank wrote:
DB1100 wrote:On average 4 people are killed every year in the UK by bee and wasp stings,lets make summer safer kill all the yellow flying things.

The difference being those deaths are in most respects "natural" in that there is no human factor involved other than the victim.
In the case of dog attacks of which there are many thousands of non-fatal but serious cases...there is almost always some human factor and/or failure involved.
Exactly,so action should be taken against the people not the dog's,banning certain breeds has been a complete failure,take pitbulls for instance,they are more popular now than they have ever been,in the right hands a pitbull can be a lovely dog,it's the fact that it is owned mostly by people with an I.Q lower than their shoe size,another example is staffies,lovely loyal playful dog's but owned by the wrong person it can be a nightmare,one of the worst dog's for behaviour problems and biting are border collies and collie crosses because people don't exercise them enough.Unless people research the breeds before choosing a dog these incidents will keep on happening,before I got my first dog I had to meet with the breeders and convince them that I was a suitable person to own one of their dog's,now you can pick up exchange and mart and within hours have a large and powerful dog in your house that you know absolutely nothing about.
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fishtank wrote:
DB1100 wrote:On average 4 people are killed every year in the UK by bee and wasp stings,lets make summer safer kill all the yellow flying things.

The difference being those deaths are in most respects "natural" in that there is no human factor involved other than the victim.
In the case of dog attacks of which there are many thousands of non-fatal but serious cases...there is almost always some human factor and/or failure involved.
correct and there is always a ned or junkie by a dangerous dogs side
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DB1100 wrote:
fishtank wrote:
DB1100 wrote:On average 4 people are killed every year in the UK by bee and wasp stings,lets make summer safer kill all the yellow flying things.

The difference being those deaths are in most respects "natural" in that there is no human factor involved other than the victim.
In the case of dog attacks of which there are many thousands of non-fatal but serious cases...there is almost always some human factor and/or failure involved.
Exactly,so action should be taken against the people not the dog's,banning certain breeds has been a complete failure,take pitbulls for instance,they are more popular now than they have ever been,in the right hands a pitbull can be a lovely dog,it's the fact that it is owned mostly by people with an I.Q lower than their shoe size,another example is staffies,lovely loyal playful dog's but owned by the wrong person it can be a nightmare,one of the worst dog's for behaviour problems and biting are border collies and collie crosses because people don't exercise them enough.Unless people research the breeds before choosing a dog these incidents will keep on happening,before I got my first dog I had to meet with the breeders and convince them that I was a suitable person to own one of their dog's,now you can pick up exchange and mart and within hours have a large and powerful dog in your house that you know absolutely nothing about.
well given the amount of good bees do with pollenating and the lovely honey, 4 deaths is remarkedly low considering the amount of people who are probably allergic to bee stings. i'm guessing deaths by allergy to peanuts might be a similar statistic.

I know you love your dogs DB but when you say action against owners of fatal dog attacks what sort of action are you talking about, several years prison sentence ?
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Motch,anybody can have a allergic reaction to a wasp or bee sting,some people are naturally allergic but others can get stung many times without a problem then all of a sudden they become allergic,anyway about dog's,anyone who keeps 5 large and dominant dogs in a small house is asking for trouble,dog's like all other animals need space,yes so IMHO the owner should have been jailed for manslaughter,as I understand it the owner wasn't present at the time so the dog's would have been in there all morning on there own,in comes the poor girl with a meat pie,5 restless dog's that are bored and hungry and no owner to control them a disaster waiting to happen.IMHO dog's always push the boundries to see what they can get away with and they need a firm hand to set the limits and enforce them,some friends of mine had their little girl bitten by a dog,the dog in question was on the settee at the time and the little girl went to sit down on the settee and the dog bit her face,they said that the dog had never done any thing like that before,to understand it you have to look at it from the dog's point of view, first,the dog knows its place in the family is on the bottom rung so if any of there kids went to sit on the settee the dog would have got straight off no problem,but the dog didn't consider it's self below the little girl and defended it's territory again perfectly normal behaviour for a dog.People must understand that dog's are animals and need to be treated as such,they do not think like humans,people attach human traits to dog's and I think this is why there are so many attacks by family pets,they need to be kept in their place that is why as I said before when we have visitors one is put in a cage and the big male is not allowed to bother them,I don't encourage people to fuss them,I say just ignore them.My dogs eat after us and are allowed on the furniture but not while guest's are here.One thing that really annoy's me is,when you go to a pub in summer and you go outside to sit in a beer garden and some moron has brought their dog,imagine it from the dog's point of view again,the dog is hot,all the noise (dogs hearing is a lot better than ours) dogs don't like high pitched noise (kids shrieks and things),they can smell food,they can smell other dog's on people's clothes,so even though the dog looks docile all these things are going on around it so it is probably very tense.Owning a dog is a huge responsibility it can be very rewarding but it is not for everyone, unfortunately too many of the wrong people own dog's without understanding them and this is why there are so many attacks.
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I can see you look after and have a good understanding of your dog/s DB. Although if manslaughter type charges came in it could even effect you or similar responsible big dog (or any aggressive dog) owners, and could be looking at a possible prison sentence if god forbid the worst happened.

Hopefully the attacks on private land will toughen up loads soon.

I just feel there's way too many big aggressive dogs in the country, although as you say it's mostly an owner issue, but at least with smaller or much weaker/less aggressive style dogs any attacks can normally be fended off with less damage.
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motch wrote:I can see you look after and have a good understanding of your dog/s DB. Although if manslaughter type charges came in it could even effect you or similar responsible big dog (or any aggressive dog) owners, and could be looking at a possible prison sentence if god forbid the worst happened.

Hopefully the attacks on private land will toughen up loads soon.

I just feel there's way too many big aggressive dogs in the country, although as you say it's mostly an owner issue, but at least with smaller or much weaker/less aggressive style dogs any attacks can normally be fended off with less damage.
I see your point motch,but you could use a similar argument about cars,why does anybody need a car that can do more than 70mph,why do people need motorbikes over 50cc.Most car accidents are caused by young people under the age of 30 so lets make 30 the age that you can drive.Big dog's don't need to be a problem,same as a lot of thing's,if decent penalties were imposed only those who were responsible would take on the responsibities of owning a big dog,look at the handgun ban,shootings are still happening,gun crime is a major problem.
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