Assaulted by postman

[feduppostie]

just as a FYI we are not 'post office' workers

we work for Royal Mail

Post Office is a seperate arm

you may not realise the difference

ha·rassment n.
Synonyms: harass, harry, hound, badger, pester, plague
These verbs mean to trouble persistently or incessantly. Harass and harry imply systematic persecution by besieging with repeated annoyances, threats, or demands: The landlord harassed tenants who were behind in their rent. A rude customer had harried the storekeeper.
Hound suggests unrelenting pursuit to gain a desired end: Reporters hounded the celebrity for an interview.
To badger is to nag or tease persistently: The child badgered his parents for a new bicycle.
To pester is to inflict a succession of petty annoyances: "How she would have pursued and pestered me with questions and surmises" (Charlotte Brontë).
Plague refers to a problem likened to an epidemic disease: "As I have no estate, I am plagued with no tenants or stewards" (Henry Fielding).

as you requested I looked up the definition ( as above)

I don't mean to be funny but you reported the assualt and it has been investigated by the police - they decided a caution was appropriate which the person in question accepted

your response was to go on the internet to a forum I assume you thought would link to his employers and to report it

the only reason I can suggest for this was to make them aware so they could take action - when he had already been dealt with by the police and accepted his punishment - because you did not agree ( by your own admission) that the punishmentgiven was enough

therefore Hound suggests unrelenting pursuit to gain a desired end:

in your case to get the punishment you feel they deserve and did not get through the offical channels

[fishtank]

If they do I do not see notifying them as an issue or believe it is seeking any additional punishment merely ensuring that any suitable punishment / actions are enforced.

The punishment was the police caution...you may not like it but unless you intend to pursue civil action that should be the end of it from your perspective.
What happens between him and his employer is none of your business.
If you intend to make it your business you may find yourself in a similar position to him.
I suggest you leave it alone.

[Pat Ostman]

I appreciate your concern but I personally do not believe you think Royal Mail shoud be notified for public safety reasons but just for revenge. It is not your duty however to notify anyone but nothing is stopping you from doing so.

Just my opinion.

Now I mentioned HMV because if he worked for them you would not be thinking about ringing up HMV unless it happened in the shop.

I understand how frustrated you feel but as mentioned it's best to move on and avoid this person as much as possible.

[Retired Postman]

Just curious but if a postman fell on your drive would you hand them a chequebook? If I fall I brush myself down and move on.

Works both ways. The fact he is a postman is irrelevant. Would you be after his neck if he worked at HMV? I doubt it.

If he worked for HMV, then he might already have a record!
Sorry...........,I'll get my coat.

[Pat Ostman]

Just curious but if a postman fell on your drive would you hand them a chequebook? If I fall I brush myself down and move on.

Works both ways. The fact he is a postman is irrelevant. Would you be after his neck if he worked at HMV? I doubt it.

If he worked for HMV, then he might already have a record!
Sorry...........,I'll get my coat.

That's pretty good

[TrueBlueTerrier]

"I was wondering if his employer has / should be informed of this due to the fact he meets the general public on a daily basis and obviously has anger issues" this meant, does the post office have a contractual requirement for employees to notify them or to be notified by the police if an employee is convicted of assault or goven an adult warning, hence asking on here a "post office" forum, if this was a HMV worker / traffic warden or a council worker I would do the same on a relevant forum. I am not having a go at post office workers I was simply trying to understand if the post office should contractually be notified. If they do I do not see notifying them as an issue or believe it is seeking any additional punishment merely ensuring that any suitable punishment / actions are enforced.

He won't be sacked as it was a private incident and beyond being informed by the Police , Royal Mail will have no further interest.

As far as I am aware there is no contractual requirement to report Cautions unless it involves dishonesty (the legal definition not the dictionary one), fraud or theft.

As you are picking people up their use of language and definitions, perhaps the phrase "obviously has anger issues" is more than a little biased and may be the reason members are commenting as they are, we don't know him, and it may be that it was a one off - nothing obvious about him having "anger" issues in my opinion . Perhaps coming onto to a Royal Mail Forum and passing such a comment and then being surprised that we jump to the defence of a colleague is a little naive.

[freds]

feduppostie
I think this is where the problem lies, you quote hound yet said harassed, whilst hound is a synonym of harassed is has a different meaning to harassed, it is not possible to harass someone via a third party or medium unless the medium is shared via the two parties i.e. phone or if the persons involved are known to use a medium like a forum, as I have no reason to believe he uses this forum I cannot knowingly harass him. Now, if he was to make himself known to me I would simply leave the forum to avoid such potential harassment or in fact being harassed. So whilst you looked up the word you did not read what you found or you did not understand it, either way you accused me of something I did not do and accused me before fully understanding what you were saying, but I can understand how this can happen.

TrueBlueTerrier
Point taken, but I do feel that anyone assaulting another person has anger issues especially when he admitted "seeing red" is this not an admission of having anger issues?

Retired Postman
Again point taken

One thing I have left out of all this is not what has happened but what did not happen, if I "saw red" as I believe every honest person would admit to at some point in their life and did something silly, then realised how stupid I had been I would be man enough to apologise in person however hard that might be or how I felt. Ironically whilst in the police station giving my statement I said to the officer "do you think I should have a word so we can put this to bed" it was only on returning home my wife said "you should not, nothing you did verbally or otherwise warranted an attack and it is for him to make recompense. it is unacceptable to attack anyone" This apparent lack of remorse might have driven my quest to ensure every possible requirement is fulfilled to ensure this person understand the gravity of the crime he committed.

Thanks to the few people who actually just answered my question and thanks to everyone else for their contributions, whilst I may visit one last time to read any final comments I will not be replying as I have no interested in pursuing online forum chat as I believe there is nothing more to gain from continuing.
F.
P.S. please forgive any spelling mistakes or typos it has been a long day 

[mazza111]

Whilst I do agree with you in the sense that we've all seen red, should someone who sees red be out working with the public etc etc. I think it's enough that he's received this caution and his employers will be informed (even if they choose to ignore it). I don't believe it's your place to do this, but the police's place (as they will). Therefore no need for you to do so too?

[oldrangersW12]

@FREDS

Reading your original post reminded me of this fella

Not you is it?

As you're being a bit of a Bertie

(that's one for the older posties)

[SteveH]

Freds - do you read the 'Daily Mail', by any chance?

[hantsman]

No such thing as an "adult caution" so Fred must be on a wind up?

[bunkerland]

Just curious but if a postman fell on your drive would you hand them a chequebook? If I fall I brush myself down and move on.

Works both ways. The fact he is a postman is irrelevant. Would you be after his neck if he worked at HMV? I doubt it.

If he worked for HMV, then he might already have a record!

Maybe even a police one!


Here's a chap not quite as high profile as your postman neighbour.......but definitely with anger issues too,i think he kept his job!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XTiI1e- ... detailpage" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[arnold cheshire]

No such thing as an "adult caution" so Fred must be on a wind up?

a caution is called a caution not a child caution or an adult caution

[arnold cheshire]

they should have at least give him a conditional discharge