ANNOUNCEMENT : ALL OF ROYAL MAIL'S EMPLOYMENT POLICIES (AGREEMENTS) AT A GLANCE (Updated 2021)... HERE

ANNOUNCEMENT : PLEASE BE AWARE WE ARE NOT ON FACEBOOK AT ALL!

LTB 580/11 Colleagueshare:Update

The latest news and discussion on Royal Mail Shares.Please note the advise given in this forum is unofficial, please use the links we have for a more detailed response or see an independent financial adviser.
All news and discussion on Daniel Kretinsky's full takeover of Royal Mail.
TrueBlueTerrier
FORUM ADMINISTRATOR
Posts: 72548
Joined: 30 Dec 2006, 10:29
Gender: Male
Location: On my couch

LTB 580/11 Colleagueshare:Update

Post by TrueBlueTerrier »

28 June 2011
LTB 580/11 Colleagueshare

TO ALL BRANCHES WITH POSTAL MEMBERS






Dear Colleague



ColleagueShare

Following a number of recent enquiries the purpose of this LTB is to update CWU members and representatives on Colleagueshare.

After the original interim valuation by Royal Mail, which made the shares virtually worthless, the company invited the Union to a series of meetings for them to provide a detailed analysis of how Colleagueshare was valued. At the end of this process the Union told Royal Mail that there was no acceptable explanation which altered the fact that just a few weeks before they were due to pay out, Royal Mail had shifted the goalposts by introducing a new Business Plan that made Colleagueshare virtually worthless. At this point the Union reaffirmed our policy that we either wanted Royal Mail to maintain the value of the payments due, or renegotiate alternative benefits for CWU members.

In a further exchange, the company then indicated that they were again in the process of adjusting their Business Plan. This is part of the process seeking Government support to achieve European State Aid approval on removing the historic pension deficit. The company explained that some of these latest adjustments to their plan may yet improve the final valuation of Colleagueshare, due to take place around May 2012. However, the company were still of the view that there was little prospect of the shares reaching anything like their previous value.

In response the Union reiterated our previous policy and this was subsequently strengthened by the Emergency Motion at Annual Conference.

The current position is that following the settlement to the London dispute, Royal Mail and CWU have agreed to re-engage in structured national talks to address the legitimate concerns of CWU members - Colleagueshare will feature in these discussions.

In the circumstances, we would ask all CWU Branches to convey to our members that CWU has not accepted Royal Mail’s position on Colleagueshare. The matter of Colleagueshare is subject to ongoing discussions during which the Union will be pursuing our policy alongside the other issues contained in the Emergency Motion.

Any enquiries on the about should be addressed to the DGS (P) Dept.



Yours sincerely

Dave Ward
Deputy General Secretary (P)
All post by me in Green are Admin Posts.
Any post in any other colour is my own responsibility.
If you like a news story I posted please click the link to show support Any news stories you can't post - PM me with a link
My sharing of news articles should not be interpreted as an endorsement or condemnation of any particular viewpoint or the issues presented. I share them solely for informational purposes.
Body Beyond Repair
Posts: 327
Joined: 11 Nov 2007, 20:22

Re: LTB 580/11 Colleagueshare

Post by Body Beyond Repair »

What a farce!!
fishtank
Posts: 19732
Joined: 28 Sep 2007, 17:22
Gender: Male

Re: LTB 580/11 Colleagueshare:Update

Post by fishtank »

TrueBlueTerrier wrote:Royal Mail and CWU have agreed to re-engage in structured national talks to address the legitimate concerns of CWU members - Colleagueshare will feature in these discussions.
How do they know what those concerns are?
Have i missed the Consultation? :shock:
:cuppa
good times, bad times you know I've had my share
clashcityrocker
Posts: 16472
Joined: 22 Sep 2009, 13:50
Gender: Male
Location: strummerville

Re: LTB 580/11 Colleagueshare:Update

Post by clashcityrocker »

fishtank wrote:
How do they know what those concerns are?
Have i missed the Consultation? :shock:
:cuppa
It happened yesterday. You were too busy listening to Mr. Big Stuff. :cool
The concerns are:
1. Being home in time for Bargain Hunt
2. Having dark roasted African coffee in the coffee machines.
3. There might have been another one but I've forgotten it.
The societies of consumption and squandering of material resources are incompatible with the idea of economic growth and a clean planet.
fishtank
Posts: 19732
Joined: 28 Sep 2007, 17:22
Gender: Male

Re: LTB 580/11 Colleagueshare:Update

Post by fishtank »

I like dark roasted African coffee. :Applause :Applause
Go CWU.... :cool
good times, bad times you know I've had my share
parky
Posts: 58
Joined: 13 Jan 2009, 12:54
Gender: Male

Re: LTB 580/11 Colleagueshare:Update

Post by parky »

Royal Mail and CWU have agreed to re-engage in structured national talks to address the legitimate concerns of CWU members - Colleagueshare will feature in these discussions

Thought these talks were in parrallel to the london talks? :hmmmm or did I miss something?
Himaggen
Posts: 993
Joined: 09 Oct 2007, 23:40

Re: LTB 580/11 Colleagueshare:Update

Post by Himaggen »

TrueBlueTerrier wrote:After the original interim valuation by Royal Mail, which made the shares virtually worthless
Perhaps I'm missing something here, but what exactly was that valuation. Nobody has actually been provided with the official 2011 share price valuation and given the opportunity, as agreed, to sell all or some of their shares at that price.
hans solo
Posts: 3264
Joined: 06 Feb 2011, 18:08
Gender: Male

Re: LTB 580/11 Colleagueshare:Update

Post by hans solo »

he price was 0 , nil nought f -all zilch, zero im just surprised we dont owe money for privelage of owning them :whistle :whistle
Body Beyond Repair
Posts: 327
Joined: 11 Nov 2007, 20:22

Re: LTB 580/11 Colleagueshare:Update

Post by Body Beyond Repair »

Phantom........... should have gave it away!!!! ;liar
Himaggen
Posts: 993
Joined: 09 Oct 2007, 23:40

Re: LTB 580/11 Colleagueshare:Update

Post by Himaggen »

I don't believe that they would use virtually worthless instead of zero, as far as I remember I haven't seen anything which documents it as zero therefore it must have been valued with a value of more than nothing.

Even if they were worth a penny each, we should have been afforded the opportunity to sell back, according to the agreement made.
BELIAL
Posts: 6758
Joined: 15 Jun 2007, 17:33
Gender: Female
Location: Nowhere

Re: LTB 580/11 Colleagueshare:Update

Post by BELIAL »

When was the last time RM management stuck to an agreement ? :speak to the hand
Bye
patrickstar
MAIL CENTRES/PROCESSING
Posts: 133
Joined: 05 Oct 2007, 07:30

Re: LTB 580/11 Colleagueshare:Update

Post by patrickstar »

when managers are getting between 3% bonus and 7% this week based on their annual salary how can the union not demand emergency talks with moya?
its disgusting!!!
andy2007
Posts: 3971
Joined: 14 Sep 2007, 10:16
Gender: Male
Location: Earth

Re: LTB 580/11 Colleagueshare:Update

Post by andy2007 »

BELIAL wrote:When was the last time RM management stuck to an agreement ? :speak to the hand
I think it was sometime around 1890. :chuckle :chuckle
Don't knock Insanity
it's just another outlook on Reality!
dvbuk55
EX ROYAL MAIL
Posts: 16650
Joined: 02 Jun 2007, 19:17
Gender: Male

Re: LTB 580/11 Colleagueshare:Update

Post by dvbuk55 »

Well it looks like everythings on the back burner now the London dispute is over. They had already agreed to further talks before that, or at least so they said. As for the biggest consultation ever....................... ;liar s
TrueBlueTerrier
FORUM ADMINISTRATOR
Posts: 72548
Joined: 30 Dec 2006, 10:29
Gender: Male
Location: On my couch

Re: LTB 580/11 Colleagueshare:Update

Post by TrueBlueTerrier »

andy2007 wrote:
BELIAL wrote:When was the last time RM management stuck to an agreement ? :speak to the hand
I think it was sometime around 1890. :chuckle :chuckle
Nope not going by this article. Lockout and bayonets. :shock: :shock:

http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bi ... 01013.2.42" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
All post by me in Green are Admin Posts.
Any post in any other colour is my own responsibility.
If you like a news story I posted please click the link to show support Any news stories you can't post - PM me with a link
My sharing of news articles should not be interpreted as an endorsement or condemnation of any particular viewpoint or the issues presented. I share them solely for informational purposes.