Royal Mail told to cut costs or face split

Post by **TrueBlueTerrier** » 23 Aug 2007, 13:36

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/b7ea4a38-5110 ... fd2ac.html

By Ben Hall, Political Correspondent

Published: August 23 2007 03:00 | Last updated: August 23 2007 03:00

Royal Mail should be split in two if it fails to modernise its business and cut costs, the industry regulator warns on Thursday.

Nigel Stapleton, Postcomm chairman, told the Financial Times the priority was for Royal Mail drastically to improve its efficiency. One option would be to separate its sorting operations from doorstep deliveries.

â€œWe will press for more radical ways for cost reduction should the current process not work,â€

left739 · Post by **left739** » 23 Aug 2007, 14:56

The key line is probably:

â€œWe will press for more radical ways for cost reduction should the current process not work,â€

Post by **TrueBlueTerrier** » 23 Aug 2007, 15:04

Hopefully Billy will accept a "job for the boys" approintment from within this compass group and leave who in my biased opinion is the better union leader, Dave Ward, to take the top spot. The fur will fly then.

if anyone is interested here is their website: http://www.compassonline.org.uk/index.asp

fedup postie · Post by **fedup postie** » 23 Aug 2007, 17:58

Sounds to me like they are trying to divide us all into nice little sections so they can then privatise us and sell us off!

It can only be a bad thing. How will splitting the two functions make any difference?

Jimi · Post by **Jimi** » 23 Aug 2007, 20:45

Once again Postcomm show how blinkered they are to the real situation within the European postal industry,

They demand better efficiency when we are delivering the same levels of efficiency as the postal services in Europe, while offering a better range of services than most.

And they demand a cheaper service for our business customers in the belief that it will expand the market, they don’t appear to realise that we have the cheapest service in Europe.

The cost of posting a letter in France is the equivalent of 91p while there efficiency is at 79.1%, and the Netherlands which Royal Mail hold up as the perfect delivery model, while they may achieve a efficiency of 96.6% this is on the back of a single class of postage and a equivalent price of 96.6p for a standard letter.

Royal Mail need to wake up to the fact that the regulator is no friend of the business, and that there only allies are the staff that work for them and the Union that represents the staff, the current policy of doing what Postcomm say with no attempt to fight back, and the attacks on the workforce with cuts and attempting to reduce our terms and conditions has proved to be disastrous for all of us.

bandit650 · Post by **bandit650** » 23 Aug 2007, 21:14

It just shows how blinkered postcom are its a load of old f**ts who see fit to pass judgment on a business that they hav'nt got a clue about,we are more efficient have a wider range of services and cost less to post with yet they still see fit to tell us how to do our job,no wonder its in such a mess.

Big Daz · Post by **Big Daz** » 24 Aug 2007, 04:28

TrueBlueTerrier wrote:Hopefully Billy will accept a "job for the boys" approintment from within this compass group and leave who in my biased opinion is the better union leader, Dave Ward, to take the top spot. The fur will fly then.

if anyone is interested here is their website: http://www.compassonline.org.uk/index.asp

What about Tony Kearns the current SDGS?

Who would you want to take over from Dave Ward as DGS(P), Bob Gibson or Martin Collins

J · Post by J » 24 Aug 2007, 15:09

fedup postie wrote:Sounds to me like they are trying to divide us all into nice little sections so they can then privatise us and sell us off!

It can only be a bad thing. How will splitting the two functions make any difference?

I said this a few years ago to my colleagues and they thought I was mad. I think this could be possible. Bugger, we're fooked if this happens!!!

deadbox · Post by **deadbox** » 24 Aug 2007, 17:59

So , the head of Postcom want RM to be more efficient ?

The let him come and do MY delivery for a week and see IF he can do it BETTER than me........

TOSSERS like HIM ought to WORK for a living.....Not just spout s**t for Â£50K+ a year

stevie247 · Post by **stevie247** » 24 Aug 2007, 20:08

Excellent post jimi what you said should to be sent to every MP.

Post by **TrueBlueTerrier** » 25 Aug 2007, 09:12

Big Daz wrote:
TrueBlueTerrier wrote:Hopefully Billy will accept a "job for the boys" approintment from within this compass group and leave who in my biased opinion is the better union leader, Dave Ward, to take the top spot. The fur will fly then.

if anyone is interested here is their website: http://www.compassonline.org.uk/index.asp

What about Tony Kearns the current SDGS?

Who would you want to take over from Dave Ward as DGS(P), Bob Gibson or Martin Collins

TBH I don't know enough about the ones you mentioned but if it came to an election I would research each and everyone of the candidates before I voted for them.

Big Daz · Post by **Big Daz** » 25 Aug 2007, 20:12

Tony Kearns - Senior Deputy General Secretary
Tony joined the Post Office in 1978. He joined the Union and almost immediately went onto the local Branch Committee of the Liverpool Counter & Clerical Branch. From there he became the Assistant Secretary, then the Branch Secretary, then a District Official. In 1990 he was elected as an NEC member. In 1998 he was elected as the Assistant Secretary Postal for the C&CS Dept, until he was elected as SDGS in December 2001, a post he only took up on a substantive basis following the retirement of both Tony Young (SDGS) and David Norman (GT). As the new post is a combination of both those positions, this saves the CWU a substantial amount of money!

Tony is not a member of the Labour party. He is a committed socialist and supporter of a number of organisations that campaign and lobby to make society a better place. He firmly believes in the repeal of anti-trade union legislation. He supports Greenpeace, the ANL and Sustrans, an organisation committed to developing a sustainable transport system. He believes that anti-globalisation protesters are perhaps the most exciting new development in terms of direct political campaigning. He recommends everybody should read a copy of Naomi Klein's book No Logo. Individuals and groups in the Union should do more to become involved and encourage involvement in this area.

Tony's primary responsibility is to put in place policies and systems that will turn around the finances of the Union.

He is concerned about the role of Women both within the Union and the workplace. Tony says almost 20% of our members are women yet whilst the basic needs are the same for all workers, i.e. pay and conditions etc, it never ceases to amaze him how the perception of a male dominated union and all the baggage that goes with it still becomes the mindset for the Union as a whole. "We are getting better but we can and will improve."

Tony is also mindful of the Retired Members. Perhaps the most neglected section of the membership, campaigning for the right for retired members to live in dignity and receive decent health and transport benefits "are issues we need to be pushing on a lot more than we have done."

Tony believes in complete transparency in just about everything he does as an elected official.

"I want to use my 20 years experience and my commitment, to make the changes that you want from your Union. To listen to you more, to involve you more and to place your ambitions as our agenda."

Email Tony:- tkearns@cwu.org

catch · Post by **catch** » 26 Aug 2007, 02:14

fedup postie wrote:Sounds to me like they are trying to divide us all into nice little sections so they can then privatise us and sell us off!

It can only be a bad thing. How will splitting the two functions make any difference?

It'll f**k up strike ballots for a start.

norbet colon · Post by **norbet colon** » 28 Aug 2007, 20:37

J wrote:
fedup postie wrote:Sounds to me like they are trying to divide us all into nice little sections so they can then privatise us and sell us off!

It can only be a bad thing. How will splitting the two functions make any difference?
I said this a few years ago to my colleagues and they thought I was mad. I think this could be possible. Bugger, we're fooked if this happens!!!

- Not at all mad , Stephen Byers wanted sectorisation years ago but had a obstacle the CWU , so that's why he got Reg Holdsworth with the Walmart Anti-union bashing . Railways got sectorised , so did BT , RM part sold off Romec , Quadrant easier to privatise then, divide & conquer, OHS out-sourced to those hacks and cowboys doing Senior Mgt's bidding .There will be more of that from Reg Holdsworth and Roland Rat. :lfo :cfo It's harder to organize , recruit , Fragmentisation was used to break the RMT , it's a miracle that the PCS have got strike ballots with the DHSS & Civil Service agenicisied . That's the idea .

norbet colon · Post by **norbet colon** » 01 Sep 2007, 14:18

Jimi wrote:Once again Postcomm show how blinkered they are to the real situation within the European postal industry,

They demand better efficiency when we are delivering the same levels of efficiency as the postal services in Europe, while offering a better range of services than most.

And they demand a cheaper service for our business customers in the belief that it will expand the market, they donâ€™t appear to realise that we have the cheapest service in Europe.

The cost of posting a letter in France is the equivalent of 91p while there efficiency is at 79.1%, and the Netherlands which Royal Mail hold up as the perfect delivery model, while they may achieve a efficiency of 96.6% this is on the back of a single class of postage and a equivalent price of 96.6p for a standard letter.

Royal Mail need to wake up to the fact that the regulator is no friend of the business, and that there only allies are the staff that work for them and the Union that represents the staff, the current policy of doing what Postcomm say with no attempt to fight back, and the attacks on the workforce with cuts and attempting to reduce our terms and conditions has proved to be disastrous for all of us.

-failed free-market Tories but have found themselves a neche with Brown's One -party state and the move to the right in Europe.

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Royal Mail told to cut costs or face split

Royal Mail told to cut costs or face split

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