I,ve always done them with the walk prep but i would like to know the rules for certain in these witch hunting times.
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BELIAL
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Can anyone give me chapter and verse on D2D. In training i was told to take them home to prep them, but i thought sod that these gits are after enough out of me already, pretty sure i'm not going to earn money for them in my time.
I,ve always done them with the walk prep but i would like to know the rules for certain in these witch hunting times.
I,ve always done them with the walk prep but i would like to know the rules for certain in these witch hunting times.
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stubaby
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Thats why i put just as long as Dave and Bob can secure a decent agreement.axeman wrote:thats ok you treat them as you want , until we get paid a decent rate for them as far as i'm concerned they ..are... junk ..
good earner for them yes but we are the losers in this and that must be rectified
I totally agree with you but we do need encourage more work but that comes at a price to them for us.
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If you wanna race and chase,and you've got 3 then yes take 'em home and sort themBELIAL wrote:Can anyone give me chapter and verse on D2D. In training i was told to take them home to prep them, but i thought sod that these gits are after enough out of me already, pretty sure i'm not going to earn money for them in my time.
I,ve always done them with the walk prep but i would like to know the rules for certain in these witch hunting times.
If not,then put them in after you've thrown off,done redis ect,you can't be told any different,well you can,but you just tell your DIM to f**k off.
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Postman reckons section 2, paragraph 4, of the national agreement says...
If you wanna race and chase,and you've got 3 then yes take 'em home and sort them
If not,then put them in after you've thrown off,done redis ect,you can't be told any different,well you can,but you just tell your DIM to f**k off.
If you wanna race and chase,and you've got 3 then yes take 'em home and sort them
If not,then put them in after you've thrown off,done redis ect,you can't be told any different,well you can,but you just tell your DIM to f**k off.
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srfkdr wrote:Far as I know, we are allowed to deliver 20% a day, but the prep itself has to be in our own time. Is this wrong?
NO!!!!Not in your own time.
The next person to tell me that his DUM had said this to him.
I'm gonna go down his office and while he watches i'm gonna f***ing beat the living crap out of his DUM.
Ok i'm better now,but DUMS beware!!
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It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
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BELIAL wrote:Postman reckons section 2, paragraph 4, of the national agreement says...
If you wanna race and chase,and you've got 3 then yes take 'em home and sort them
If not,then put them in after you've thrown off,done redis ect,you can't be told any different,well you can,but you just tell your DIM to f**k off.
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
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srfkdr
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Thanks for the offer!POSTMAN wrote:srfkdr wrote:Far as I know, we are allowed to deliver 20% a day, but the prep itself has to be in our own time. Is this wrong?
NO!!!!Not in your own time.
The next person to tell me that his DUM had said this to him.
I'm gonna go down his office and while he watches i'm gonna f***ing beat the living crap out of his DUM.
Ok i'm better now,but DUMS beware!!
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srfkdr wrote:Far as I know, we are allowed to deliver 20% a day, but the prep itself has to be in our own time. Is this wrong?
SORRY MATE, BOLLOX TO THAT!!
YOU SHOULD BE ALLOTED TIME IN YOUR PREP, IF YOU CAN'T DO IT TELL DUM DUM AND ADVISE REP.
THEY WANT THE S**t DELIVERED THEY GOT TO GIVE TIME--------NOT YOUR OWN!!
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I have read the CWU/UCW statement from 1996 reference D2DS and it appears as though the preperation and sorting of D2Ds should be done during duty time. Unfortunately I can't find out if it was agreed or not will email CWU to see what they have/can send me.
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The south east CWU branch has been contacted on this matter and their response is as follows ;
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It appears that a number of managers are informing members that the prep of D2D items should be processed in an individuals own time and not within their duty time. Below is a direct extract from the national agreement on D2D (joint statement from Royal Mail & CWU on D2D (page 7)) which should clarify this issue ;
1. It is accepted that the principal of D2D being paid as a unit payment is that it will be absorbed within normal duty time into existing deliveries in accordance with the nationally advertised serice standards for all mail.
As you will see from the above statement there is NO requirement for any individual to perform prep of D2D items in their own time, indeed there is a clear recognition from the employer that D2D workload should be absorbed within an individuals normal duty time.
Should you find that your local manager is not abiding by the above statement please contact me immediately through the channels so that these issues can be progressed accordingly.
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sorry but I don't know who the "contact me" bit refers to, but any member of your regional CWU should oblige, hope this clears things up a bit
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It appears that a number of managers are informing members that the prep of D2D items should be processed in an individuals own time and not within their duty time. Below is a direct extract from the national agreement on D2D (joint statement from Royal Mail & CWU on D2D (page 7)) which should clarify this issue ;
1. It is accepted that the principal of D2D being paid as a unit payment is that it will be absorbed within normal duty time into existing deliveries in accordance with the nationally advertised serice standards for all mail.
As you will see from the above statement there is NO requirement for any individual to perform prep of D2D items in their own time, indeed there is a clear recognition from the employer that D2D workload should be absorbed within an individuals normal duty time.
Should you find that your local manager is not abiding by the above statement please contact me immediately through the channels so that these issues can be progressed accordingly.
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sorry but I don't know who the "contact me" bit refers to, but any member of your regional CWU should oblige, hope this clears things up a bit
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BELIAL
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spiffing, many thanksbillypants wrote:The south east CWU branch has been contacted on this matter and their response is as follows ;
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It appears that a number of managers are informing members that the prep of D2D items should be processed in an individuals own time and not within their duty time. Below is a direct extract from the national agreement on D2D (joint statement from Royal Mail & CWU on D2D (page 7)) which should clarify this issue ;
1. It is accepted that the principal of D2D being paid as a unit payment is that it will be absorbed within normal duty time into existing deliveries in accordance with the nationally advertised serice standards for all mail.
As you will see from the above statement there is NO requirement for any individual to perform prep of D2D items in their own time, indeed there is a clear recognition from the employer that D2D workload should be absorbed within an individuals normal duty time.
Should you find that your local manager is not abiding by the above statement please contact me immediately through the channels so that these issues can be progressed accordingly.
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sorry but I don't know who the "contact me" bit refers to, but any member of your regional CWU should oblige, hope this clears things up a bit