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cyclemech1
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Re: EVR

Post by cyclemech1 »

baldrick wrote:
RobertT wrote:
cyclemech1 wrote:I thought that if you took Early Voluntary RETIREMENT after the age of 55, your pension was 'made up' as if you had retired at 60?
Is this not still the case? :confused
The company could decide to 'make up' your pension but there's nothing to say they have to,after all that would cost them more money.
Have to disagree with that. At the moment, if you are 55-60 you can take Early Voluntary Retirement
and it will be enhanced by up to 6 and two-third years, although the maximum cannot take you to over 60 - so if you
take it at 55, you would get an enhancement of 5 years. I believe the enhancement cannot be longer than your actual
service too, but I'm not sure about that.
But when the pension age rise to 65 from 1 April, presumably the requisite age for EVR will also rise to 60-65, and
those between 55-60 will only be eligible for TMA (Termination by Mutual Agreement).

At present TMA is open to people between 50-54, and gives you two options:
TMA1a - immediate payment of accrued pension (and lump sum if payable) without either enhancement or reduction.
TMA1b - actuarially reduced pension (and lump sum if payable) with a redundancy payment of 26 weeks pay.

And as I said previously, we don't yet know if there will be any changes arising from the present negotiations.
I intend to retire at 60 :wave (4 and a bit years time) as I don't want to work ever again!!(done 40 years, not all in this job)
As you can take your pension at 60 (obviously on a final salary up till 2008, career defined till 2010 and then reduced for 4 years as the normal retirement age rises to 65, phew!!) I was hoping that you could still retire voluntarily if you were over 55. Logic being that if you can leave at 60 and you were over 55 when the normal retirement age was extended you would still be eligible for enhancement of years.
(clutching at straws time :pray )
baldrick
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Re: EVR

Post by baldrick »

Not sure how it will work after 1 April Cyclemech. But I don't think you will still be able to get EVR from 55-60, only TMA.

It will apply to me too, and I am assuming I will be able to take accrued pension up to April 2010, when I reach 60,
and then if EVRs are offered I would get another bit of pension (and lump sum), based on 5 extra 'enhanced' years plus 26 weeks redundancy payment, for the years between 60-65. Based on the present VR/EVR terms.

Up to 1 April I would have been able to get a Voluntary Redundancy payment of 104 weeks if I had already taken my pension.
morgio79
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Re: EVR

Post by morgio79 »

hi there i want to ask a question, if anyone can answer...
I`m 31 and having problems with stress and family, i`ve been to my GP and went sick on depression...now my Dom put me on a stage 2,
after all this i still feel stressed i heard my collegues talking about EVR (early voluntary redundancy), can i take it or ask for it??
And if yes what will i get??? can anyone help!!!
Cheers
baldrick
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Re: EVR

Post by baldrick »

Hi and welcome to rmc morgio79! :wave
You would only get Voluntary Redundancy if it is on offer in your office and could get it on your seniority. You can't just ask for it, unfortunately. If you could there would be a lot of people doing that.
The amount depends on your age and. length of service. At 31 the minimum amount, you would get, if it was on offer and you could get it, would be 26 weeks pay, for 2-7 years service.
With 8 years service its 30 weeks, 9 yrs = 33.75 wks, 10 yrs = 35.625 wks, 11 yrs = 37.5 wks, 12 yrs = 39.375 wks, 13 yrs = 41.25 wks,
14 yrs = 43.125 wks, the maximum at 15 yrs = 45 weeks.

Sorry to hear of your health problems, but if ATOS confirm that your illness means that you are unlikely to be able to work for the
next 9 months, they might recommend Ill Health Retirement which would be a lump sum of 34 weeks pay.
If your illness is so severe that you might not be able to work for the next 10 years, you might be considered for ill Health Retirement
with (enhanced) pension. But that is not so easy to get. Use the search facility to look at posts by Easter Bunny which will give you more info on this.
Good Luck.
paul colborne
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Re: EVR

Post by paul colborne »

hi,there arent any EVRs in my office yet but they are offering buy down of hours.anybody know if this is taxed.
thanks.
stodgy88
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Re: EVR

Post by stodgy88 »

no, they give you a figure based on length of service and number of hours you want to lose,you get that figure ,not taxed .i went from 40 to 30 hours around 4 years ago got just over 8 grand ,been there 20 years at time.
presario
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Re: EVR

Post by presario »

Being somewhat of a newbie on here (but not forums in general) I apologise if this question is miss placed at all. To keep it short and simple 8 of us at ours office have been "offered" consideration for EVR (this revolves round changes the manager wants on our late shift and only surrounding us drivers ) anyway we got our offers this week (not the formal one's) basically written on the back of a bit of scrap paper :sad: To give you some background regarding myself I am 56 and in service since 1972 so will be in the old scheme which closed last year (if memory serves me right). The scribbled offer I was given basically gave me a sum of money to go (£11,000+) and the option to take my pension and lump sum in three flavours, top pension sum no lump sum, mid pension sum and a mid lump sum, lower pension sum and a top end lump sum. I am assuming all these calculations were based on my accrued NRA60 contributions and that the current NRA65 contributions do not come into the picture. While browsing through here yesterday I seem to recall some suggestion somewhere that there was a way to bring the NRA65 contributions into play to raise the offer to leave up to the max 104 weeks, I think it was by opting out and taking a hit (loss) on what has been paid in. I was reading in somewhat of a rush and forgot to bookmark the page so I may well have got it all wrong .... anyway can someone offer me some idea if this is possible.

I would also like to have confirmed that if I accept any offer my pension lump sum is tax free, my pension would be taxed as would the money on offer to take EVR (anything above £30K) .....

One last question when the scrap paper offer was made my manager wanted a yes, no, maybe off me I said maybe, but have been advised to ask for the "formal" offer as unless and until I sign it it forms no legal basis to go forward (I believe I have 14 days to mull it over) but will be more accurate and will give me a clearer idea of what's on offer.

Thanks in advance
This is the Night Mail crossing the border Bringing the cheque and the postal order. them were the days :-/
ellisdeano
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Re: vr

Post by ellisdeano »

I am 53 years old with 6 years service have no pension,put in for vr what would i be entitled to.
baldrick
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Re: vr

Post by baldrick »

ellisdeano wrote:I am 53 years old with 6 years service have no pension,put in for vr what would i be entitled to.
33.75 weeks, according to the RM Ready reckoner we were sent.