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NATIONAL BRIEFING - TUESDAY 29TH MARCH

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TO: ALL BRANCHES WITH POSTAL MEMBERS


Dear Colleague,

RE: NATIONAL BRIEFING - TUESDAY 29TH MARCH

The purpose of this LTB is to advise Branches that the Union will be holding a National Briefing on the 29th March at Friends House, Euston commencing at 11am.



The Briefing has been arranged in light of announcements due to be made this week by the Royal Mail Group. The agenda for the briefing will also allow for an update on our Anti Privatisation Campaign.



The briefing is open to Representatives from all Businesses within the Royal Mail Group. Normal travel arrangement and subsistence will apply.



A final Agenda will be sent out in due course.





Yours sincerely








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Post by hubbahubba »

will there be any other disney charcters there,or just mickeymouse and goofy? :cuppa
same as it ever was...
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hubbahubba wrote:will there be any other disney charcters there,or just mickeymouse and goofy? :cuppa
thats a slur on the 2 disney charcters , why dont the union cancel the conference and with the money they save pay out the college share money after all they have had a few freebies over the years truth hurts eh CWU
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I do not understand why you attack your own union? Baffles me every time i see a senseless comment like that. A union is only as strong as the workforce who back it. Ive been with royal mail 22years and in the last 10 years its royal mail who keep shafting us not the union!. Unfortunately many postal employees play right into their hands by not supporting official strikes or protests.Even worse there are still posties going into work before there start times to try and get an earlier finish or "finish on time" as some say. What a joke they are. You are paid to do your hours so work them! if there is too much workload tell your manager.Its his problem not ours to sort out. If you can only manage to take 2 thirds of your round out then its up to your manager to sort out how the rest is to be done.
There are also Posties using their own cars for delivery!!!! I cant believe that they dont realize how much damage that has done to jobs within the royal mail over the last 10 years. We aint a public service anymore we are run as a business by some of the poorest management ever seen at such high levels.
As i remember it wasnt the union who were singing praises about these colleague shares it was ROYAL MAIL! . Our union in Liverpool always doubted that they would amount to anything in the end. We were never ever going to profit from them.
What is a disgrace and baffles me is how come we made huge savings and record Profits just over a year ago. Where has the Money gone? Who is responsible for such obscene action against its workforce? The colleague share farce is only a beginning of the downfall of Royal Mail.
They should be named shamed and brought to justice!
ROYAL MAIL IS OFFICIALLY A JOKE! GET BEHIND YOUR UNION IF YOU WANT TO LIMIT THE DAMAGE THEY HAVE DONE TO OUR WORKFORCE.
The Union cant repair or prevent a lot of the damage done but they can certainly make sure its not half as bad as it could be if left UNCHALLENGED.
So get a thinking head on and see the real picture.
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dolphlundgren73 wrote:I do not understand why you attack your own union? Baffles me every time i see a senseless comment like that. A union is only as strong as the workforce who back it. Ive been with royal mail 22years and in the last 10 years its royal mail who keep shafting us not the union!. Unfortunately many postal employees play right into their hands by not supporting official strikes or protests.Even worse there are still posties going into work before there start times to try and get an earlier finish or "finish on time" as some say. What a joke they are. You are paid to do your hours so work them! if there is too much workload tell your manager.Its his problem not ours to sort out. If you can only manage to take 2 thirds of your round out then its up to your manager to sort out how the rest is to be done.
There are also Posties using their own cars for delivery!!!! I cant believe that they dont realize how much damage that has done to jobs within the royal mail over the last 10 years. We aint a public service anymore we are run as a business by some of the poorest management ever seen at such high levels.
As i remember it wasnt the union who were singing praises about these colleague shares it was ROYAL MAIL! . Our union in Liverpool always doubted that they would amount to anything in the end. We were never ever going to profit from them.
What is a disgrace and baffles me is how come we made huge savings and record Profits just over a year ago. Where has the Money gone? Who is responsible for such obscene action against its workforce? The colleague share farce is only a beginning of the downfall of Royal Mail.
They should be named shamed and brought to justice!
ROYAL MAIL IS OFFICIALLY A JOKE! GET BEHIND YOUR UNION IF YOU WANT TO LIMIT THE DAMAGE THEY HAVE DONE TO OUR WORKFORCE.
The Union cant repair or prevent a lot of the damage done but they can certainly make sure its not half as bad as it could be if left UNCHALLENGED.
So get a thinking head on and see the real picture.

Im sorry mate i think the union is a big joke now that last pay deal was so bad most people lost money lossing door to door money. H :ncfo :vcfo :dcfo ow can we back a union like that.
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dolphlundgren73 wrote:I do not understand why you attack your own union? Baffles me every time i see a senseless comment like that. A union is only as strong as the workforce who back it. Ive been with royal mail 22years and in the last 10 years its royal mail who keep shafting us not the union!. Unfortunately many postal employees play right into their hands by not supporting official strikes or protests.Even worse there are still posties going into work before there start times to try and get an earlier finish or "finish on time" as some say. What a joke they are. You are paid to do your hours so work them! if there is too much workload tell your manager.Its his problem not ours to sort out. If you can only manage to take 2 thirds of your round out then its up to your manager to sort out how the rest is to be done.
There are also Posties using their own cars for delivery!!!! I cant believe that they dont realize how much damage that has done to jobs within the royal mail over the last 10 years. We aint a public service anymore we are run as a business by some of the poorest management ever seen at such high levels.
As i remember it wasnt the union who were singing praises about these colleague shares it was ROYAL MAIL! . Our union in Liverpool always doubted that they would amount to anything in the end. We were never ever going to profit from them.
What is a disgrace and baffles me is how come we made huge savings and record Profits just over a year ago. Where has the Money gone? Who is responsible for such obscene action against its workforce? The colleague share farce is only a beginning of the downfall of Royal Mail.
They should be named shamed and brought to justice!
ROYAL MAIL IS OFFICIALLY A JOKE! GET BEHIND YOUR UNION IF YOU WANT TO LIMIT THE DAMAGE THEY HAVE DONE TO OUR WORKFORCE.
The Union cant repair or prevent a lot of the damage done but they can certainly make sure its not half as bad as it could be if left UNCHALLENGED.
So get a thinking head on and see the real picture.
i have and the union cost me and part timers a lot of money with D2D deal trust them again and lose more money you wake up
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Post by Cannonbaw »

Only way to save losing money is STOP paying union dues i dont trust the union NEVER have I removed myself from the union the day they told us to give up £25 for the longer working week when your day off fell on a Saturday then later the Saturday became a normal working day and time and a half was scrubbed total joke!!!!!!
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wtf do we have to wait until 29th march for this is happening now cwu wake up and do your job you have already had meetings with mrssrs green and rm you knew this was coming.
we need action now not in a weeks time
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Please find below a list of representatives invited to attend:-



· CWU Regional Secretaries
· Divisional Representatives
· Technical Services Representatives
· Territorial Counter Reps
· Parcelforce Regional Organisers
· Romec Divisional Representatives
· All Royal Mail Area Reps (Delivery, Processing and Distribution)
· Quadrant Area Representatives
· Area Admin Representatives
· 1 Branch Representative
· Romec Cleaners Regional Reps
· Counter Section Secretaries
· Area Safety Representatives
· Customer Services Reps



Royal Mail Group has been informed of the National Briefing.



Travel and subsistence costs associated with attendance at the Briefing will be in line with the instructions and advice issued in LTB 506/04.
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
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Post by whatamess!! »

POSTMAN wrote:Please find below a list of representatives invited to attend:-



· CWU Regional Secretaries
· Divisional Representatives
· Technical Services Representatives
· Territorial Counter Reps
· Parcelforce Regional Organisers
· Romec Divisional Representatives
· All Royal Mail Area Reps (Delivery, Processing and Distribution)
· Quadrant Area Representatives
· Area Admin Representatives
· 1 Branch Representative
· Romec Cleaners Regional Reps
· Counter Section Secretaries
· Area Safety Representatives
· Customer Services Reps



Royal Mail Group has been informed of the National Briefing.



Travel and subsistence costs associated with attendance at the Briefing will be in line with the instructions and advice issued in LTB 506/04.
Anyone copy Ltb 506/04, can't find it :oops:
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Post by dolphlundgren73 »

edwardo wrote:
dolphlundgren73 wrote:I do not understand why you attack your own union? Baffles me every time i see a senseless comment like that. A union is only as strong as the workforce who back it. Ive been with royal mail 22years and in the last 10 years its royal mail who keep shafting us not the union!. Unfortunately many postal employees play right into their hands by not supporting official strikes or protests.Even worse there are still posties going into work before there start times to try and get an earlier finish or "finish on time" as some say. What a joke they are. You are paid to do your hours so work them! if there is too much workload tell your manager.Its his problem not ours to sort out. If you can only manage to take 2 thirds of your round out then its up to your manager to sort out how the rest is to be done.
There are also Posties using their own cars for delivery!!!! I cant believe that they dont realize how much damage that has done to jobs within the royal mail over the last 10 years. We aint a public service anymore we are run as a business by some of the poorest management ever seen at such high levels.
As i remember it wasnt the union who were singing praises about these colleague shares it was ROYAL MAIL! . Our union in Liverpool always doubted that they would amount to anything in the end. We were never ever going to profit from them.
What is a disgrace and baffles me is how come we made huge savings and record Profits just over a year ago. Where has the Money gone? Who is responsible for such obscene action against its workforce? The colleague share farce is only a beginning of the downfall of Royal Mail.
They should be named shamed and brought to justice!
ROYAL MAIL IS OFFICIALLY A JOKE! GET BEHIND YOUR UNION IF YOU WANT TO LIMIT THE DAMAGE THEY HAVE DONE TO OUR WORKFORCE.
The Union cant repair or prevent a lot of the damage done but they can certainly make sure its not half as bad as it could be if left UNCHALLENGED.
So get a thinking head on and see the real picture.
i have and the union cost me and part timers a lot of money with D2D deal trust them again and lose more money you wake up
You would have lost your door 2 door leaflet payments if the union hadnt agreed this pay deal. Let me set you straight with FACTS so that you stop moaning about a £20 quid supplement that is supposedly worse than you were gona get.

FACT 1: Door2door payments were to be reduced to about 5 - 7 quid under royal mails plans! They planned and still are planning to wrap up 2 7 door 2 door in 1 bundle so that you only got paid for 1 leaflet! £20 dont sound so bad now does it? The Union prevented this from happening and yes for some posties(inc myself) we are £10 worse off. Better than being up to £30 quid worse off under Royal mail terms.
Fact 2: Indoor staff are better off with their pay.Think about other workforce for once guys!.

FACT 3: The union forced the royal mail to accept that door2door be recognized as part of delivery workload, This meant that the union prevented 1000s more job losses and made sure that walks were not gona be the monstrous sizes they could have been. It also meant that full time ratio across the country rose. This was VItal.

So like i said before OPEN your eyes and dont give me your moaning bullcrap when you are clueless about how life in Royal Mail actually is. You clearly dont know anything
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Post by dave0876 »

Full time Ratio increased my god do you work in A do you buffon not one person made upto full time as im aware
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dave0876 wrote:Full time Ratio increased my god do you work in A do you buffon not one person made upto full time as im aware

Oh yes they have :Very Happy
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POSTMAN wrote:Please find below a list of representatives invited to attend:-



· CWU Regional Secretaries
· Divisional Representatives
· Technical Services Representatives
· Territorial Counter Reps
· Parcelforce Regional Organisers
· Romec Divisional Representatives
· All Royal Mail Area Reps (Delivery, Processing and Distribution)
· Quadrant Area Representatives
· Area Admin Representatives
· 1 Branch Representative
· Romec Cleaners Regional Rep
· Counter Section Secretaries
· Area Safety Representatives
· Customer Services Reps



Royal Mail Group has been informed of the National Briefing.



Travel and subsistence costs associated with attendance at the Briefing will be in line with the instructions and advice issued in LTB 506/04.

Waste of time! :arrrghhh :arrrghhh
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dolphlundgren73 wrote:
FACT 3: The union forced the royal mail to accept that door2door be recognized as part of delivery workload, This meant that the union prevented 1000s more job losses and made sure that walks were not gona be the monstrous sizes they could have been. This was VItal.
Well on paper that would have been fine but what Bob Gibson etc forgot to do was get a clear agreement on BSI/IWT and
also negotiated some dodgy prep times for D2D,so when it they pressed the IWT button in my office we ended up with 30
mins less overall prep time than before the introduction of D2D into workload.