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Mental Health in RMG

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Tman
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Re: Mental Health in RMG

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andy2007"]Are you deliberately trying to ignore the facts here?
What facts? That some are liable to stress, and others aren't?
The JOB of being a postie isn't what's stressful. It's the way we're often treated, and the attitudes we have to deal with.
So the job itself is OK, it's down to all those nasty bosses then, is it?

And RM workers sometimes wonder why Joe Public has no sympathy for them in their "struggles".... :roll: :roll:
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Tman wrote: And RM workers sometimes wonder why Joe Public has no sympathy for them in their "struggles".... :roll: :roll:
I think Joe Public has a lot of sympathy for their postie.
They know that our job is physically demanding, they see us out in all weathers, they know our bosses are a bunch of twats (they know that cos I tell them), they know we struggle to provide them with a decent service under very difficult circumstances.
When are you going to stop posting piles of s**t?
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Re: Mental Health in RMG

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And RM workers sometimes wonder why Joe Public has no sympathy for them in their "struggles".... :roll: :roll:
I
think Joe Public has a lot of sympathy for their postie.
They know that our job is physically demanding, they see us out in all weathers, they know our bosses are a bunch of twats (they know that cos I tell them), they know we struggle to provide them with a decent service under very difficult circumstances.

You're dafter than you look (that's a supposition, no need to go running and telling tales that I called you daft.. :wave ) if you believe that is true in the current financial situation and ConDem campaign to cull millions of Public Sector workers.
Inefficient, too much casual sick, makes a load on overtime on top of a very good basic wage, too much post going astray for whatever reason, and retires early on a gold-plated pension.
And they know that's true because the Mail, Express and Sun tells them it is.
When are you going to stop posting piles of s**t?
Doubtless it'll be long before you do.... :wink:
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Re: Mental Health in RMG

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You need to get out more.
Your first sentence doesn't make grammatical sense but never mind.
The humble postie remains (in the absence of any Bobbies on the beat) one of the most trusted people in the community. I can gain access to any building by simply announcing that it is the Postie at the door. People trust us.
Are we inefficient? I doubt they think that when they recieve poorly addressed mail.
Do we retire early with gold-plated pensions? I doubt anyone thinks that, not even your Mail/Sun/Express readers. The hole in our pension fund gets more press and that's why we need to "modernise".
Do we get loads of o/t on top of a good basic wage? I doubt the average person in the UK could physically do the extremely demanding job we now do, and as I said before we do it in all weathers, usually still with a smile on our face. I doubt anyone begrudges us our wage (which ain't that great) and I doubt very much if your Sun/Express/ Mail readers have a clue how much o/t a postie does.

And as for me being daft..... I once had a manager like you who assumed that because I chose to work as a postie I must be his intellectual inferior. So I insisted he use my full title on the signing-in sheet so it read - Clashcityrocker BA (Hons). And I wasn't the best educated postie in the DO.
So take your silly little prejudices and hide them behind your iSLM. It just makes you look small.
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Re: Mental Health in RMG

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Tman wrote:
clashcityrocker wrote:When are you going to stop posting piles of s**t?
Doubtless it'll be long before you do.... :wink:
Well we live in hope

Still having trouble with the quoting - I'll be bringing out a guide soon as a lot do.
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Re: Mental Health in RMG

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Your first sentence doesn't make grammatical sense but never mind.
Which should read "your first sentence doesn't make sense, but never mind" if you feel the need to be pedantic, although it's still a clumsy sentence.. :hmmmm

And as for me being daft..... I once had a manager like you who assumed that because I chose to work as a postie I must be his intellectual inferior. So I insisted he use my full title on the signing-in sheet so it read - Clashcityrocker BA (Hons). And I wasn't the best educated postie in the DO.
So take your silly little prejudices and hide them behind your iSLM. It just makes you look small.
Hohum....if you were as clever as you like to make out, you'd know that the middle paragraph wasn't my view, but those which generally seem to be held by the Sun readers etc, and as such, really didn't need you to answer.
If... :whistle
Never mind Clash old chap, there's always the funny avatar and the rewritten song lyric to keep you busy. :wave
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Re: Mental Health in RMG

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Actually I am cleverer than I like to make out. :dance
You seem to think you know what Sun/Express/Mail readers are thinking. I wasn't answering YOU but your notions of what tabloid readers believe about posties.
Perhaps if you stopped posting about jelly beans in your CSS, you might be able to follow a cogent argument.

And you keep going on about the reworded lyrics. Was that the most attention anyone has paid you?
Would you like someone to repost the YMCA rewrite? Would that make you feel loved? :wave
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Re: Mental Health in RMG

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You seem to think you know what Sun/Express/Mail readers are thinking. I wasn't answering YOU but your notions of what tabloid readers believe about posties.
Now why would you do that? I know those dumb ideas about pensions and sick leave aren't true so why would you feel the need to list why they aren't true if it wasn't me you were answering?
I just hope all that studying for the BA wasn't in any subject involving English or any form of reasoning or logic. Clearly it would have been a waste if so.
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This is getting stressful :shock: :chuckle
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Brothers less of the personal character assassination in your posts and stick to the subject matter of mental health in RMG. Undoubtedly each poster will have differing views but please keep your comments civil, respectful and dignified towards each other.
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Re: Mental Health in RMG

Post by guvenor »

on the subject of the title
i think we all must be right fu**in mental to allow this agreement to be forced on us in first place.
as for tsman he/she must not have much of a clue how stress anxiety depression works look it up half wit and try and educate yourself with facts on how this problem works.
it doesnt matter what your job / title is this is a modern disease affecting many people .
what is a stressful job
answer every job is stressful its how each individual copes especially with change and we havnt exactly had a settled structure in our working life patterns with rm .and yes im sorry to say incompetance from stressed mgmt and forcing incorrect standards and procedures on workers has only one affect.
god our office looks like the cuckoos nest most days
rm wouldnt admit it but stress anx, deppr are probably the biggest cause of abscence from work now
also ask for suicide attempts etc related to work envioraments
they wont tell you if figures were released nationally regards all workplaces and mgmt harr/ bull
etc there would national outcry
but we would be all too depressed to do anything about it
citalipram for anyone :crazy: