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Spate of redundancies?

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Eric
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Spate of redundancies?

Post by Eric »

Do you think we might see a spate of redundancies before the criteria for offering it changes next month? From a business point of view the current system of offering it to the older members of staff who are probably struggling with the extra workload rather than offering it to guys who have racked up the seniority, but are still relatively young, makes far more sense. Getting rid of someone who is 58 with just a few years service would be cheaper and more sensible (yes,I know RM don't do sensible!) than getting rid of a 40 year old with 20+ years service.
baldrick
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Re: Spate of redundancies?

Post by baldrick »

There are a lot of people taking EVR/VR this month in my MC, before the new (seniority) and compensation terms start on 1 October.
But I doubt if there will be any spate of new EVR/VR offers in the next two weeks, as it is too late to process them before 1 October.
maisymoo04
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Re: Spate of redundancies?

Post by maisymoo04 »

we have a few lads in our office who want EVR but have been told there wil be NONE IN DELIVERY :cry
"Some day I will have the bottle to take the money"
benn2261
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Re: Spate of redundancies?

Post by benn2261 »

can anyone tell me how the redundances terms change for me.last time i was offered maximum 104 weeks pay.
i am 49 with 30 service.will we still be keeping the same deal or is it going to be less.
OnAFlyer
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Re: Spate of redundancies?

Post by OnAFlyer »

Not a prayer in my office, there are loads of vacant duties and 20-odd had to be covered on OT last week.
janitor
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Re: Spate of redundancies?

Post by janitor »

Why would RM consider paying redundancy, they will just keep piling on the work and managers will keep piling on the pressure, they know they can get rid of people on the cheap that way, as people will either leave, or drop dead trying to cope.
stodgy88
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Re: Spate of redundancies?

Post by stodgy88 »

benn 104 weeks limit is dropped .yours should be calculated at more than 104 ,so you will be better off.
benn2261
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Re: Spate of redundancies?

Post by benn2261 »

stodgy88 wrote:benn 104 weeks limit is dropped .yours should be calculated at more than 104 ,so you will be better off.
hi thanks for the help on this issue stodgy.
daveyeff
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Re: Spate of redundancies?

Post by daveyeff »

stodgy88 wrote:benn 104 weeks limit is dropped .yours should be calculated at more than 104 ,so you will be better off.
hello stodgy mate, do you or anyone else know what the new evr package will be come october, when it changes.
easter bunny
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Re: Spate of redundancies?

Post by easter bunny »

6 months pay are the new TMA terms come October....Bigger payment on IHR than the new TMA...
daveyeff
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Re: Spate of redundancies?

Post by daveyeff »

easter bunny wrote:6 months pay are the new TMA terms come October....Bigger payment on IHR than the new TMA...
well, stodgy reckons the guy that was offered 104 weeks should be better off come october, if he,s only getting 6 months then thats worse off?
easter bunny
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Re: Spate of redundancies?

Post by easter bunny »

He certaintly wont be better off...I was talking to a guy in my old office ( I had IHR last year ) who is coming up to 61 with nearly 45 years in.. If he doesnt get out by the end of Sept , he is screwed....The delivery office has vacancies so not EVR/TMA can be given unless staff want a transfer from the Mail Centre...That doesnt happen anymore..
Who in their right mind with go for 6 months pay ? i can see compulsory redundancies being forced in the next couple of years...
easter bunny
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Re: Spate of redundancies?

Post by easter bunny »

I do hope that RM will be fair to both management and the coal face employees when it comes to TMA . It was reported last week that 2000 middle management staff are likely to face redundancy with 2 years pay..

I do hope this is not true.The terms that management should get is 6 months pay under the RM new policy, unless of course their on fixed term contract where normal employment law would told the status quo...
REDLETTER
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Re: Spate of redundancies?

Post by REDLETTER »

easter bunny wrote:I do hope that RM will be fair to both management and the coal face employees when it comes to TMA . It was reported last week that 2000 middle management staff are likely to face redundancy with 2 years pay..

I do hope this is not true.The terms that management should get is 6 months pay under the RM new policy, unless of course their on fixed term contract where normal employment law would told the status quo...
Say they are on £30,000 each x 2 = £60,0000 x 2000 That's hell a lot of money! :crazy:
dazzlin72
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Re: Spate of redundancies?

Post by dazzlin72 »

I read each manager was in the £40,000 pay bracket, so each would walk away with £80,000. That's £1.6m, and they only want to give the foot soldiers six months pay which is approx 10,000.
That sums up exactly what the RM think of us!