Tragedy strikes

shelanda · Post by **shelanda** » 26 Jul 2007, 22:31

saw a som from our area driving lorry into DO today made a right hash of it was willing him to scrape it but he somehow jerked it through entrance.

johnnyp · Post by **johnnyp** » 26 Jul 2007, 23:31

[quote="sadlersbitch"]Police arrest Royal Mail manager involved in fatal collision online only
A post office manager driving a Royal Mail articulated lorry was involved in a fatal accident in Exeter this morning.

The collision, which occurred at 6.30am on the A379 Bridge Road, killed the 53-year old driver of an Astra van, and injured his passenger.

Police have arrested the driver of the lorry, a 46 year-old man from Newton Abbot, on suspicion of causing death by careless driving, and investigations are ongoing. No one has been charged at this stage.

Devon and Cornwall police told Socialist Worker that driving conditions at that time were not unduly hazardous.

A rep at the Exeter mail centre told Socialist Worker that there has been a spate of accidents involving managers and Royal Mail vehicles on strike days.

â€œLast week several vehicles being driven by managers at Exeter had their wing mirrors broken and one van was backed into a building in Plymouth. While on the picket line we even witnessed a lorry being driven by a manager with its tailgate down â€“ which is potentially extremely dangerous,â€

DGP1 · Post by **DGP1** » 27 Jul 2007, 01:45

[quote="johnnypick"][quote="sadlersbitch"]Police arrest Royal Mail manager involved in fatal collision online only
A post office manager driving a Royal Mail articulated lorry was involved in a fatal accident in Exeter this morning.

The collision, which occurred at 6.30am on the A379 Bridge Road, killed the 53-year old driver of an Astra van, and injured his passenger.

Police have arrested the driver of the lorry, a 46 year-old man from Newton Abbot, on suspicion of causing death by careless driving, and investigations are ongoing. No one has been charged at this stage.

Devon and Cornwall police told Socialist Worker that driving conditions at that time were not unduly hazardous.

A rep at the Exeter mail centre told Socialist Worker that there has been a spate of accidents involving managers and Royal Mail vehicles on strike days.

â€œLast week several vehicles being driven by managers at Exeter had their wing mirrors broken and one van was backed into a building in Plymouth. While on the picket line we even witnessed a lorry being driven by a manager with its tailgate down â€“ which is potentially extremely dangerous,â€

cruisey · Post by **cruisey** » 27 Jul 2007, 14:42

This was a tragedy waiting to happen. These RM managers are either untrained, or haven't driven a lorry for a while. I do feel some sympathy for the driver of the lorry because although he shouldn't have been on the road, he can't really say no cos he'll lose his job. That last comment is not normally in my character cos i ain't manager friendly.
The press could spin it and say stuff like 'if you wasn't on strike, this wouldn't have happened', but the real facts are there.
IF LEIGHTON AND CROZIER WEREN'T SUCH A PAIR OF STUBBORN SELFISH MONEY FLEECING TOSSERS THEN THIS DISPUTE COULD HAVE BEEN AVOIDED AND THIS POOR VAN DRIVER WOULDN'T HAVE DIED.
MY CONDOLENCES TO THE FAMILY OF THE DECEASED PERSON. RIP

blackadder · Post by **blackadder** » 27 Jul 2007, 15:00

This is an accident that should not have happened.

It show that although we are on strike there is a lot of pressure on managers to get the job done.
Managers are not strike breakers, they are not part of the Union (at least ours aren't) and it is not their strike.

Fortunately, my being on strike does not make me to blame in any way for the tragedy in Exeter
I hope the press don't spin it against us.

i support 100% what u say

blackadder · Post by **blackadder** » 27 Jul 2007, 15:03

i somehow got it wrong but the verse is from spedley

fedup postie · Post by **fedup postie** » 27 Jul 2007, 15:25

condolences to his family

waffler · Post by **waffler** » 27 Jul 2007, 17:06

My condolences to the families involved, one would think after some of the 'incidents' of managers driving vans and lorries with little recent or no experience during the first two strikes i.e. hitting gates, falling over when negotiating corners too fast and improperly loaded mail spilling out on the road, some lessons might have been learned which may have prevented this tragic accident. . . .

IWW Fellow Worker · Post by **IWW Fellow Worker** » 27 Jul 2007, 17:16

waffler wrote:My condolences to the families involved, one would think after some of the 'incidents' of managers driving vans and lorries with little recent or no experience during the first two strikes i.e. hitting gates, falling over when negotiating corners too fast and improperly loaded mail spilling out on the road, some lessons might have been learned which may have prevented this tragic accident. . . .

I have no doubt the government, Al, Adam and those managers and strike breakers who are working throught this dispute and thereby championing the system consider this a price worth paying in their battle against the unions much as Thatcher did when people died waiting for ambulances or dates for vital operations.

billypants · Post by **billypants** » 27 Jul 2007, 17:47

I think this should be known

Henry Charles Brown, known as Harry Brown, was 56-year-old and from St Thomas in Exeter. He was married with five children.

He was not just a statistic but a husband and father

Please Royal Mail, look at the consiquences of your actions, stop these dangerous practices NOW by just talking to the CWU

sparko35 · Post by **sparko35** » 27 Jul 2007, 18:25

I WONDER IF IT WILL GO DOWN AS AN ACCIDENT OR AN INCIDENT?

CONDOLENCES TO FAMILY OF THE VAN DRIVER

COME ON ALLEN STOP THIS MADNESS SIT DOWN AND TALK

bigsharkboy · Post by **bigsharkboy** » 27 Jul 2007, 18:39

billypants wrote:I think this should be known

Henry Charles Brown, known as Harry Brown, was 56-year-old and from St Thomas in Exeter. He was married with five children.

He was not just a statistic but a husband and father

Please Royal Mail, look at the consiquences of your actions, stop these dangerous practices NOW by just talking to the CWU

i totally agree with most of the statements already made and would also like to pass on my condolences to all families concerned

this accident has happened in my area devon and i hope it makes the managers think twice before jumping into there lorries
and if they still insist on driving the lorries on strike days please please take more care

frankie · Post by **frankie** » 27 Jul 2007, 19:47

I agree with all the comments made here, and I too would like to offer my condolences to Mr Browns family at this sad time, and also hope for a speedy recovery to his passenger as well.

BB brother · Post by **BB brother** » 27 Jul 2007, 21:08

A complete and utter f#ckin disgrace !

He must have been drivin like a f#ckin maniac to be charged so quickly !

Hope the victims family can prove corperate manslaughter and sue the f#ckin arse off Royal mail,it makes me ashamed to work for this f#ckin lot sometimes !

Excuse my french.

Post by **TrueBlueTerrier** » 28 Jul 2007, 10:42

BB brother wrote:
Hope the victims family can prove corporate manslaughter and sue the arse off Royal mail.

Perhaps - If this manager has not received any refresher training they may have a case.

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