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Dog Bite

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silverback
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Dog Bite

Post by silverback »

A colleague has been bitten quite badly (needed hospital) by a customers Alsation dog on their own property.
Can anyone tell me what are the correct procedures RM management are supposed to follow regarding this
please.
DP3
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Re: Dog Bite

Post by DP3 »

1 Report attack details time, place and date with description of attack to office/D.O.M.
2 Medical treatment if required
3 Manager compleats report
4 Manager either visit's address and speaks to dog owner or standard letter informing owner of attack
5 Dog warden also advised of attack
6 Suspension of mail delivery, owner to collect if dog is not under control
7 However this is the one i favour it involves lead and a shotgun and two cartridges the dog get's it first
and the owner get's it second or a variation on a theme.
Hope this is of some use
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Re: Dog Bite

Post by Pat Ostman »

Hardly the dog's fault mate - shoot the owner (or the breeder if its banned) by all means.... (allegedly)

Insufficient training or allowing a dog to wonder free without training is all the owners responsibility. Protecting the pack's living area is in the dog's psyche from birth - unfortunately dogs are not born self aware and cannot distinguish different threats without training.

The law needs to be changed and the buck should stop firmly with the owners. Pisses me right off when you have dogs biting near the letterbox when you shove mail though. If the dog does this it should not have access near the letterbox and the owners have obviously not bothered training their mutt either. If a dog is barking and gnawing at the letterbox the letters go straight back endorsed dog loose. (And yes, Royal Mail will agree with this as well as it violates health and safety laws.

Got the rest right though :wink:
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Re: Dog Bite

Post by brothermagrew »

silverback wrote:A colleague has been bitten quite badly (needed hospital) by a customers Alsation dog on their own property.
Can anyone tell me what are the correct procedures RM management are supposed to follow regarding this
please.
My response silverback is if you really want the definative answer then I would suggest that the next time you see your DOM or a member of RM management then ask them for a look at the Dealing with Dog Attacks - Good Practice Guide or for a copy of it to be posted on a notice board so as all employees can read it and absorb it's content. Failing that make representations to the health and safety rep. Hope your colleague makes a full recovery.
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silverback
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Re: Dog Bite

Post by silverback »

Thanks everyone, I knew I would get an answer on here. Poor state of affairs thou when the DOM doesnt
know how to respond. :Applause :Applause
youwot!!!!!
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Re: Dog Bite

Post by youwot!!!!! »

[quote="silverback"] Poor state of affairs thou when the DOM doesnt
know how to respond. why would this surprise you????????????
don't forget that managers are managers because they are FAILED postmen(and women). :Very Happy
who the hell invests £2 billion into a servic and makes it worse?????????????
you really couldn't make it up!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Dog Bite

Post by stokes11eg »

silverback wrote:A colleague has been bitten quite badly (needed hospital) by a customers Alsation dog on their own property.
Can anyone tell me what are the correct procedures RM management are supposed to follow regarding this
please.
:shock: Always report it to the Police as well as your Manager.
silverback
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Re: Dog Bite

Post by silverback »

stokes11eg wrote:
silverback wrote:A colleague has been bitten quite badly (needed hospital) by a customers Alsation dog on their own property.
Can anyone tell me what are the correct procedures RM management are supposed to follow regarding this
please.
:shock: Always report it to the Police as well as your Manager.
Will do. What will they do?
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Re: Dog Bite

Post by stokes11eg »

:sad: Srtictly speaking. R/M should notify them. The benefits of reporting it are that you should get an incident number, which may help you further down the line, and, if this dog attacks anyone else, your previous report could go a long way to having action taken against the owner.
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Re: Dog Bite

Post by brothermagrew »

stokes11eg wrote::sad: Srtictly speaking. R/M should notify them. The benefits of reporting it are that you should get an incident number, which may help you further down the line, and, if this dog attacks anyone else, your previous report could go a long way to having action taken against the owner.
Strictly speaking sister stokesie the terminology used in the Dealing with Dog Attacks - Good Practice Guide is that - In all cases of injury staff will be encouraged to report the incident to the Police. Managers will actively support their staff during this reporting process. (I would therefore interpret that as it is the responsibility of the individual who has been attacked and injured to report the matter to the Police themself but with the encouragement, assistance and support of their manager during the reporting process). The onus therefore is on the individual to report or notify the Police. You are perfectly correct about the benefits of reporting. :wave
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Re: Dog Bite

Post by stokes11eg »

:sad: OOPS --still getting mixed up with the Canadian Postal Service, Managers themselves, as well as the posties are in theory OBLIGED to report these attacks.
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Re: Dog Bite

Post by andy2007 »

DP3 wrote:1 Report attack details time, place and date with description of attack to office/D.O.M.
2 Medical treatment if required
3 Manager compleats report
4 Manager either visit's address and speaks to dog owner or standard letter informing owner of attack
5 Dog warden also advised of attack
6 Suspension of mail delivery, owner to collect if dog is not under control
7 However this is the one i favour it involves lead and a shotgun and two cartridges the dog get's it first
and the owner get's it second or a variation on a theme.
Hope this is of some use
Don't forget to see your First Aider, as soon as you get back too. That way, it'll also be on record there too, even if it's not serious enough to go to Hospital.
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silverback
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Re: Dog Bite

Post by silverback »

Thanks everyone :Very Happy
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Re: Dog Bite

Post by Lounge Lizard »

I find that filling in all the paperwork is such a rigmerole that it's tempting not to bother and for the last dog bite, which was a minor one, I didn't bother reporting it. Wrong of me I know but it was the run up to Christmas and I was working to my absolute limit.
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Re: Dog Bite

Post by brothermagrew »

Another unreported dog attack or incident of dog menace :no no :no no Now providing this dog hasn't attacked before no one in your DO has a scooby about this dogs propensity for being dangerous as there is no record of the event having ever taken place.
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