Know your enemy

[goinpostal]

IFor example I was in charge of approx. 30 delivery rounds yet I earnt about 1.5 times the salary of a postie, yet the postie is only responsible for their round?

As for the enemy in general, most are of the privatisation/outsourcing mould. Are they nasty people no not really. Are they greedy? They are living the captialist dream like the rest of us. Are they cocking things up? No-ones perfect. Will they walk into another cosy job after this? Probably as most reckon any job after RM is likely to be easier without the union pressures.

RM have been desperately trying to create profit and loss accounts for delivery offices. This means that as a DO you could align costs more closely. This would also pave the way for possible pritvatisation, and more likely a local management buy out. Imagine as a group of posties having complete control over your DO. You have an income and with that income you have to deliver x amount of post. I suppose one could call it a franchise. You would also be a in a position to tender for competitors posts and decide what price you charged. This would help prevent competitors delivering it themselves.

are u a manager Foz?

Why should we accept the market at al? it serves big business against the itnerests of the working class in 2 ways, first the whole direction is to get spcial products and a better service for big busines and to hell with the public, and second the market is opened so private businesses can win contracts and make profit (in other words part privatisation) and ultimately to batter Royal Mail with competition till it is restructured and readyfor privatisation itself. If Leighton adn Crozier are still around no doubt theyll consider a management buyout like Brian Souter and Stagecoach. They are living the capitalist dream not us Foz B were living the nightmare like billions of other people round the world.

Leighton Crozier, the board they are all privateers, sack the lot of them - and it shows how much Gordon Brown is just Blair in new clothes that he hsan't lifted a finger to do that or support us or change the free market policy in the post.

Like this postie at nine elms in london said [url=http://www.workerspower.com/index.php?i ... 69,0,0,1,0]“Why does the postal service need to make a profit, anyway? Of course, it’s nice if it does and none of us wants an inefficient operation. But it’s an essential service, above all else.â€

[norbet colon]

IFor example I was in charge of approx. 30 delivery rounds yet I earnt about 1.5 times the salary of a postie, yet the postie is only responsible for their round?

As for the enemy in general, most are of the privatisation/outsourcing mould. Are they nasty people no not really. Are they greedy? They are living the captialist dream like the rest of us. Are they cocking things up? No-ones perfect. Will they walk into another cosy job after this? Probably as most reckon any job after RM is likely to be easier without the union pressures.

RM have been desperately trying to create profit and loss accounts for delivery offices. This means that as a DO you could align costs more closely. This would also pave the way for possible pritvatisation, and more likely a local management buy out. Imagine as a group of posties having complete control over your DO. You have an income and with that income you have to deliver x amount of post. I suppose one could call it a franchise. You would also be a in a position to tender for competitors posts and decide what price you charged. This would help prevent competitors delivering it themselves.

are u a manager Foz?

Why should we accept the market at al? it serves big business against the itnerests of the working class in 2 ways, first the whole direction is to get spcial products and a better service for big busines and to hell with the public, and second the market is opened so private businesses can win contracts and make profit (in other words part privatisation) and ultimately to batter Royal Mail with competition till it is restructured and readyfor privatisation itself. If Leighton adn Crozier are still around no doubt theyll consider a management buyout like Brian Souter and Stagecoach. They are living the capitalist dream not us Foz B were living the nightmare like billions of other people round the world.

Leighton Crozier, the board they are all privateers, sack the lot of them - and it shows how much Gordon Brown is just Blair in new clothes that he hsan't lifted a finger to do that or support us or change the free market policy in the post.True, Leighton continually threatens to resign and stamps his little foot wanting a 20% buyout for staff , that's how they all got thier way with the "Business Plan". Brown's a Liberal, it's the neither side is right thing & somehow keep everybody happy !?

Like this postie at nine elms in london said [url=http://www.workerspower.com/index.php?i ... 69,0,0,1,0]“Why does the postal service need to make a profit, anyway? Of course, it’s nice if it does and none of us wants an inefficient operation. But it’s an essential service, above all else.â€

[goinpostal]

tie rack!!

[norbet colon]

It's a franchaise though!
Why not be even sillier -Business Opportunities in the small ads of the Mail & Express buy your own Delivery Office -apply in writing to A Leighton c/o Old St.,London
Seriously look at the ideas for Post Office Counters

[F0zziebear]

Or maybe Sock Shop.

I used to be a manager as everyone knows, and had the pleasure of working in Head Office with the big cogs for a while. Maybe it should be stated on my profile.

As far as economic theory goes, I think it was Marx who said that Capitalism will implode on itself and socialism will be born from it's ruins. If one believes this then big business will end up being so far up it's own backside that it will collapse on itself. I suppose that examples of Enron etc... could be a sign.

Royal Mail as a not for profit organisation is an interesting one, and you could argue that the infrastructure should be maintained along the lines of Network Rail (without the horrendous experience of its predecessor) with other private operators working within it?

I have grown up in the capitalist neo-liberal world. I am not in love it as I've mentioned before, but think complete nationalisation is not the answer either. I don't think you can justify that all of Royal Mail's revenue is essential public service. None of Mailsort 3 for example is essential. It is direct mail and commercial in my opinion. Big business will get the service it deserves if they carry on sniping at prices. They will end up with a rubbish system and will then convert to other forms of communication.

As for being a working class hero. We should all remember that we participate either knowingly or otherwise in this system. Our pension money gets invested in private companies, many of whom are probably these so called big businesses that people find so offensive. Where do you go shopping? TESCO, ASDA, Morrisons, Sainsbury, Waitrose, M&S. If this is the case then you are participating in the perpetuation of big business.

I stopped slagging off others a few years ago when I realised that I would be a hypocrite. Unless I'm prepared to change my own lifestyle to meet my princniples I shouldn't be slagging others off.

We should also remember that only about 25-40% (max) is what we could consider essential mail. I think all should recognise that mail as a form of communication is heading for history. How many of you regularly communicate via mail? For heavens sake we are communicating on an online message board!

Yours

Former employee

F0zz Scargill

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There might be something in a not for profit organization as nobody wants to do Auntie Joan's postcard. It has worked with social housing , there's less nonsense with the tennants where I live.
I have done 3 strikes & 9 years railway service so I'm world weary to say the least!
The problem with Rail-track it was bound to go bust & it worked against the Train Operating Companies , there wasn't competition as envisaged . To all the staff that felt shortchanged by the Govt buyout ; the stockmarket is only a glorified bookies anyway.For every AL in the GPO, you had hate figures like Corbett on the same number on Railtrack.
Parts of the Railway are renationalised in all but name, problem is people can't sneeze without the Dept of Transport knowing about it. The chain of command is ridiculously long , the operating politics farcical swallowing up 3-5 times more taxpayers money than BR.

[Tom]

John Roberts got £200.000 when he was CEO of Royal Mail before Crozier
Bill Cockburn got £185.000 when he did it before Roberts.

When the Prime Minster is on less then £185,000 who runs the Government

And the Bunises / Trade Cabinet Minster is on £130,000 who Crozier & Leighton work for

How can he be worth £500,000 basic pay with another £500,000 plus.

My View is that Croizer should be paid less then the Cabinet Minster he works for gets paid (less then £130,000)

And Leighton should only get that pro rata for the one day a week he does

Any Profit should be shared with all employees from the top to the bottom

There is of course more chance of shitting in the Queens handbag then that happening


IT TAKES MANY BATTLES TO WIN A WAR

AND THIS THURSDAY IS OUR SECOND BATTLE

GOOD LUCK TO US ALL

[norbet colon]

John Roberts got £200.000 when he was CEO of Royal Mail before Crozier
Bill Cockburn got £185.000 when he did it before Roberts.

When the Prime Minster is on less then £185,000 who runs the Government

And the Bunises / Trade Cabinet Minster is on £130,000 who Crozier & Leighton work for

How can he be worth £500,000 basic pay with another £500,000 plus.

My View is that Croizer should be paid less then the Cabinet Minster he works for gets paid (less then £130,000)

And Leighton should only get that pro rata for the one day a week he does

Any Profit should be shared with all employees from the top to the bottom And he keeps stamping his little foot & threatening to resign when he doesn't get his own way. Never mind ACAS , send for Supernanny!, or they should put L&C in one of those "little brat" houses they have on "Reality TV". I saw one of those posed pictures where AL is supposed to look mean, he looked like a small boy who'd soiled his pants & been made to wear them as punishment. Seriously there's loads of big babies with huge vain egos.

There is of course more chance of shitting in the Queens handbag then that happening


IT TAKES MANY BATTLES TO WIN A WAR

AND THIS THURSDAY IS OUR SECOND BATTLE

GOOD LUCK TO US ALL