More Strikes?

[Funked!]

oh so its a moral crusade now, is it? you're doing it for the future generations of posties are you? dont make me laugh!!

Don't judge others by your own lack of giving a dam!

[norfolk nelly]

there are different levels of dyslexia, unfortunately my husband is afflicted badly. it's not something he can brush off when convenient to him, its something he lives with every day. your friend must have had a milder form of dyslexia.

[TrueBlueTerrier]

maybe because they're getting abuse from the cwu for being strike breakers?

i stay at home and bring my 3 kids up right, not to be abusive delinquents, to be polite, thoughtful and to work hard for what they have. thats my job. its thankless, but its the one i chose and i do it without whining to all and sundry about it. when problems crop up, i tackle them head on and bring them to a successful conclusion. I am strong an capable at my job.
if my husband weren't dyslexic, i'm confident he could do your job no problem. plus he wouldnt drag innocent customers into any spats he had with the management. He'd sort those out directly, as he always has done in the past.

IF the RM management are such arseholes, then why strike? why not quit? find another job? if you're all so fantastically capable, it should be a breeze. then let RM bring in casual staff/polish workers, watch them fail and RM may well concede defeat and be better bosses in the long run. Why punish innocent customers? This may not be your intention, but this is certainly what you are doing. Knowing this, you still continue. THAT'S what we find unacceptable. You don't care who suffers, as long as you get your way. Like naughty children having a mass tantrum! God forbid my kids ever act like that, i'd slap them silly! (figure of speech, not child abuse)

oh and my husband works 12 days out of 14 as thats what his contract stipulates and he doesnt back down on his word. he's just as annoyed (if not more) about your strikes as I am because his bosses business relies on the post

Could I suggest you read as much of the forums as possible - every point you have made in your posts has been covered ad-infinitum on here already. Also you will be then better placed to argue your position from awareness of both sides of this situation rather than the one you are reading in the press.

[norfolk nelly]

oh so its a moral crusade now, is it? you're doing it for the future generations of posties are you? dont make me laugh!!

Don't judge others by your own lack of giving a dam!

are you artists? are you surgeons? are you master craftsmen of any kind? no, you sort out mail and shove it through doors. it's a job. not a career or profession to aspire to.

[TrueBlueTerrier]

there are different levels of dyslexia, unfortunately my husband is afflicted badly. it's not something he can brush off when convenient to him, its something he lives with every day. your friend must have had a milder form of dyslexia.

There are posties who suffer from dyslexia and changes are made to accommodate them. Perhaps he could research into it we would welcome him.

[Bert66]

oh so its a moral crusade now, is it? you're doing it for the future generations of posties are you? dont make me laugh!!

Don't judge others by your own lack of giving a dam!

are you artists? are you surgeons? are you master craftsmen of any kind? no, you sort out mail and shove it through doors. it's a job. not a career or profession to aspire to.

I do believe you are running out of ideas of a creative debate now.

[norfolk nelly]

maybe because they're getting abuse from the cwu for being strike breakers?

i stay at home and bring my 3 kids up right, not to be abusive delinquents, to be polite, thoughtful and to work hard for what they have. thats my job. its thankless, but its the one i chose and i do it without whining to all and sundry about it. when problems crop up, i tackle them head on and bring them to a successful conclusion. I am strong an capable at my job.
if my husband weren't dyslexic, i'm confident he could do your job no problem. plus he wouldnt drag innocent customers into any spats he had with the management. He'd sort those out directly, as he always has done in the past.

IF the RM management are such arseholes, then why strike? why not quit? find another job? if you're all so fantastically capable, it should be a breeze. then let RM bring in casual staff/polish workers, watch them fail and RM may well concede defeat and be better bosses in the long run. Why punish innocent customers? This may not be your intention, but this is certainly what you are doing. Knowing this, you still continue. THAT'S what we find unacceptable. You don't care who suffers, as long as you get your way. Like naughty children having a mass tantrum! God forbid my kids ever act like that, i'd slap them silly! (figure of speech, not child abuse)

oh and my husband works 12 days out of 14 as thats what his contract stipulates and he doesnt back down on his word. he's just as annoyed (if not more) about your strikes as I am because his bosses business relies on the post

Could I suggest you read as much of the forums as possible - every point you have made in your posts has been covered ad-infinitum on here already. Also you will be then better placed to argue your position from awareness of both sides of this situation rather than the one you are reading in the press.

i dont read the press. its full of rubbish. all i know is what i experience. you are paid to deliver mail. you are not doing it (for whatever reason). that gives me and every other customer just cause to be annoyed. we are not getting the service we paid for. when the mail is delivered its often late or damaged or both. that costs other people money. whatever your beef with your bosses is, it shouldn't be brought into the public domain, it should be sorted out internally.

[saru]

hmm, how did i know i'd be called a troll for having a differing opinion to yours? RM management must've been banging their heads against a brick wall for months, trying to avoid these strikes, if you cant see any viewpoint but your own!

COMPROMISE-google it

Googling & ebaying....2 things management are good at!

[Funked!]

oh so its a moral crusade now, is it? you're doing it for the future generations of posties are you? dont make me laugh!!

Don't judge others by your own lack of giving a dam!

are you artists? are you surgeons? are you master craftsmen of any kind? no, you sort out mail and shove it through doors. it's a job. not a career or profession to aspire to.

Nobody is saying it is a profession 'only in your head'
Why don't you give it ago as well ?
You know i already know you would be a failure.

[TrueBlueTerrier]

maybe because they're getting abuse from the cwu for being strike breakers?

i stay at home and bring my 3 kids up right, not to be abusive delinquents, to be polite, thoughtful and to work hard for what they have. thats my job. its thankless, but its the one i chose and i do it without whining to all and sundry about it. when problems crop up, i tackle them head on and bring them to a successful conclusion. I am strong an capable at my job.
if my husband weren't dyslexic, i'm confident he could do your job no problem. plus he wouldnt drag innocent customers into any spats he had with the management. He'd sort those out directly, as he always has done in the past.

IF the RM management are such arseholes, then why strike? why not quit? find another job? if you're all so fantastically capable, it should be a breeze. then let RM bring in casual staff/polish workers, watch them fail and RM may well concede defeat and be better bosses in the long run. Why punish innocent customers? This may not be your intention, but this is certainly what you are doing. Knowing this, you still continue. THAT'S what we find unacceptable. You don't care who suffers, as long as you get your way. Like naughty children having a mass tantrum! God forbid my kids ever act like that, i'd slap them silly! (figure of speech, not child abuse)

oh and my husband works 12 days out of 14 as thats what his contract stipulates and he doesnt back down on his word. he's just as annoyed (if not more) about your strikes as I am because his bosses business relies on the post

Could I suggest you read as much of the forums as possible - every point you have made in your posts has been covered ad-infinitum on here already. Also you will be then better placed to argue your position from awareness of both sides of this situation rather than the one you are reading in the press.

i dont read the press. its full of rubbish. all i know is what i experience. you are paid to deliver mail. you are not doing it (for whatever reason). that gives me and every other customer just cause to be annoyed. we are not getting the service we paid for. when the mail is delivered its often late or damaged or both. that costs other people money. whatever your beef with your bosses is, it shouldn't be brought into the public domain, it should be sorted out internally.

If you had checked other posts you would see we have tried that for the last 18 moths - RM ignored or denied there was a problem what was the next step.

[swannyadams]

my husband's job isnt easy, but he does it! and he doesn't strike for more pay/better conditions!

He has to lift 100kg loads every day, he works alone, so has to do all the work. he has to be up most days at 5am, but some days he's up at 2am! He only gets every other weekend off, thats only 2 days from every 14! He's lucky if he gets home before 6pm most days. You may argue that your job is just as hard. That's as maybe, but my husband doesn't strike and I'm betting at 12k a year (before overtime, which is variable), his wages are a damn sight less then postie's get as well!! But his job is his choice and he gets on with it without any public moaning or striking.

If you don't like your job so much posties, go on the dole and join the other £2+million people who will be skint and miserable this christmas, through no fault of their own. DON'T mess up everyones lives by holding the innocent public to randsom. So you're pissed off at your bosses, hardly OUR fault, is it? Any customer with any sense can see it's the CWU doing the striking, not Royal Mail the company.

At least Royal Mail are implementing temporary sorting places to soften the belly blow of these strikes. They know how important the post is to the public. How many cheques will be lost because of your short sighted selfishness? How many upset kids won't get their birthday cards? How many patients won't get important hospital information because of it? You are simply not thinking of the people you're affecting. But if you DO realise what affect your strikes are having, then SHAME ON YOU for being so ungrateful and so selfish!

If it were up to me, I would disband the CWU, sack all their members and give the job to the unemployed who would be grateful for them!

I'll probably get classed as a troll now, and if I do, it just will show the CWU workers short sightedness, they can't see other people opinions. Or worse! They don;t think other people opinions count! which is wrong, everybody's opinions count.

I myself buy and sell on eBay and I'm sick of filling in claim forms for lost/damaged in post items, only to wait over a month before I get my money back. How do you expect businesses to operate like this? I'm not a business, but the principal is the same.

why knock the posties.its the management that are making the changes,later delivery times,post office closures etc.I can only assume your husband is not in a union then otherwise im sure his terms and conditions would be more favourable.just wonder if you have considered using a different courier to deliver your ebay goods if the royal mail is that bad or cant they match the price.despite what you think I can assure you the strikes are aimed at saving the postal service not to destroy it.

[bunkerland]

RM management must've been banging their heads against a brick wall for months, trying to avoid these strikes,

Is that really what you believe? OMG!

[Bert66]

maybe because they're getting abuse from the cwu for being strike breakers?

i stay at home and bring my 3 kids up right, not to be abusive delinquents, to be polite, thoughtful and to work hard for what they have. thats my job. its thankless, but its the one i chose and i do it without whining to all and sundry about it. when problems crop up, i tackle them head on and bring them to a successful conclusion. I am strong an capable at my job.
if my husband weren't dyslexic, i'm confident he could do your job no problem. plus he wouldnt drag innocent customers into any spats he had with the management. He'd sort those out directly, as he always has done in the past.

IF the RM management are such arseholes, then why strike? why not quit? find another job? if you're all so fantastically capable, it should be a breeze. then let RM bring in casual staff/polish workers, watch them fail and RM may well concede defeat and be better bosses in the long run. Why punish innocent customers? This may not be your intention, but this is certainly what you are doing. Knowing this, you still continue. THAT'S what we find unacceptable. You don't care who suffers, as long as you get your way. Like naughty children having a mass tantrum! God forbid my kids ever act like that, i'd slap them silly! (figure of speech, not child abuse)

oh and my husband works 12 days out of 14 as thats what his contract stipulates and he doesnt back down on his word. he's just as annoyed (if not more) about your strikes as I am because his bosses business relies on the post

Could I suggest you read as much of the forums as possible - every point you have made in your posts has been covered ad-infinitum on here already. Also you will be then better placed to argue your position from awareness of both sides of this situation rather than the one you are reading in the press.

i dont read the press. its full of rubbish. all i know is what i experience. you are paid to deliver mail. you are not doing it (for whatever reason). that gives me and every other customer just cause to be annoyed. we are not getting the service we paid for. when the mail is delivered its often late or damaged or both. that costs other people money. whatever your beef with your bosses is, it shouldn't be brought into the public domain, it should be sorted out internally.

I totally agree to a point, but what do you do when an employer dictates and imposes changes upon you, and then it should negotiate but refuses to comply with agreements that it has signed?

[Funked!]

maybe because they're getting abuse from the cwu for being strike breakers?

i stay at home and bring my 3 kids up right, not to be abusive delinquents, to be polite, thoughtful and to work hard for what they have. thats my job. its thankless, but its the one i chose and i do it without whining to all and sundry about it. when problems crop up, i tackle them head on and bring them to a successful conclusion. I am strong an capable at my job.
if my husband weren't dyslexic, i'm confident he could do your job no problem. plus he wouldnt drag innocent customers into any spats he had with the management. He'd sort those out directly, as he always has done in the past.

IF the RM management are such arseholes, then why strike? why not quit? find another job? if you're all so fantastically capable, it should be a breeze. then let RM bring in casual staff/polish workers, watch them fail and RM may well concede defeat and be better bosses in the long run. Why punish innocent customers? This may not be your intention, but this is certainly what you are doing. Knowing this, you still continue. THAT'S what we find unacceptable. You don't care who suffers, as long as you get your way. Like naughty children having a mass tantrum! God forbid my kids ever act like that, i'd slap them silly! (figure of speech, not child abuse)

oh and my husband works 12 days out of 14 as thats what his contract stipulates and he doesnt back down on his word. he's just as annoyed (if not more) about your strikes as I am because his bosses business relies on the post

Could I suggest you read as much of the forums as possible - every point you have made in your posts has been covered ad-infinitum on here already. Also you will be then better placed to argue your position from awareness of both sides of this situation rather than the one you are reading in the press.

i dont read the press. its full of rubbish. all i know is what i experience. you are paid to deliver mail. you are not doing it (for whatever reason). that gives me and every other customer just cause to be annoyed. we are not getting the service we paid for. when the mail is delivered its often late or damaged or both. that costs other people money. whatever your beef with your bosses is, it shouldn't be brought into the public domain, it should be sorted out internally.

Why don't you read what is written, he is asking you to read the forum NOT THE PRESS!
You are full of so many preconceived ideas it's breathtaking.

Talking of service what sort of service do you think you will receive if the posties lose this dispute. A FAR WORSE ONE THAN YOU DO NOW WITH INFLATED PRICES.

[Mister Chinaski]

oh so its a moral crusade now, is it? you're doing it for the future generations of posties are you? dont make me laugh!!

So it's funny that I care about the future of Royal Mail, is it?