Sacked village postie claims he was set up

[underpaid]

you know who gets believed in any controversy.
management are so F*****g corrupt when it comes to it

some major scams have been pulled by the corrupt screws down our way

[vigilante]

diballday.




not someone mate the system.
I'm afraid RM don't give a damn about people well they never have really!!
we are just a number mate and in these days of cut cut cut they are after any excuse to get rid of people.
twisted pigs.
good luck mate.

[norbet colon]

RM are experts at stiching people up. I was suspended for willful delay when i came back to time, even though i informed a manager three times before i went out. After being interviewed the following morning i was told by the area manager i had done nothing wrong and could go back to work. Three weeks later i was given two years serious because i couldn't prove i informed a manager that i had brought mail back when i returned to the office.

DCI Gene Hunt of Life on Mars would be proud of him, arrogant kangaroo courts , but thier arrogance can be thier achillies heel outside Planet Royal Mail -IDIOTS!
1 . First weakness is RM go by APPARENT " beyond all reasonable doubt as in criminal law
2. Industrial Tribunals CAN go on the balance of probabilities , RM don't get that because it's outside the box, but that's thier problem!
3. If thier case was that good why didn't they do immediate dismissal,adverse inferences can be drawn from the delay, suspicious issues etc
4. Adverse inferences/conclusions can be drawn from the contradiction in what area said and what local management state
5. Royal Mail work backwards to a predetermined conclusion start with verdict Guilty , then the "charge", then "evidence" then "witnesses".It's highanded and autocratic to say the least .
6. On the railway we viewed things as either a straight move , a bent move to "look straight" or just plain bent
7. The motives of local management, suspicious issues.
One apologist said if there is a racial/gender/management issue in B&H cases which are always a hot potato , the majority are not!? discriminated against, it's simply because they are the majority which is glib , trite nonsense . If anyone alleges otherwise in racial issues they are in BNP territory which is nonsense and insulting.., the last refuge of the scoundrel.
It aparently has nothing to do with the TUC report that RM had the worst record for bullying bar the Prison Service or being monitored by the E.O.C. /CRE after the dreadful Harlow case or Jermaine Lee or trying to impress / looking for brownie points . Yeah Right! , as it's been tested internally or in Tribunals.
The Union will have to change tact & not expect that a Tribunal Chairman will believe thier side though otherwise they'll lose cases against RM ,they've people who would have made Mother Teresa look like Myra Hindley by twisting everything on it's head , also they'll turn everything into test cases out of siege mentality management, they've always been very secretive and defensive. Better prosecution is needed to ram points home. :lfo

[norbet colon]

diballday.




not someone mate the system.
I'm afraid RM don't give a damn about people well they never have really!!
we are just a number mate and in these days of cut cut cut they are after any excuse to get rid of people.
twisted pigs.
good luck mate.

According to the Sawyer report the cultures still in demob 1945, it's military basically you are just a rating and noone's going to believe you. Problem is when you try and go corporate you get the worst of both systems. The suggestion was independent panels with ACAS,CWU & RM rather than E.T.'s. That didn't use to happen very often but now!
Somebody said about prison ,if you'd been in the services or public school you could handle it, basically it's a institution and you might as well be on another planet. It's also like prison when 9 screws will swear blind this & that happened. Again there's a ex-services influence.
There always has been a command & control culture but those cretins wonder why moral is so poor. Sawyer doesn't mention the unofficial union the RM boys club, they are militant and bolshy it's just a different twist. RM always have been above the law , 350yrs of culture , everything is within a box , negative & it's all they know, many far too institutionalised to do any other sort of work.

[axeman]

d2d's do not come under the remit of the regulator... they cannot and would not fine royal mail for delaying these items i just hope his defence team realised this as it could lead to the dismisal of the case . these bast***s will try anything
wish we could all bin the crap anyway i'd love too

[TrueBlueTerrier]

Norbet take and agree your point about RM in some ways being like the Services. However as an ex myself the biggest difference is that the local boss Major/ Squadron Leader/Lieutenant Commander (which IMO is roughly equivalent to a DOM) knows everyone under their command very well indeed, and looks after them very well. Where a DOM (in my experience) knows their names but does not know them any further and therefore fails to get the best out of them or even allow the DOM to generate a team spirit in the office.

I think if RM tried to get a Team Spirit going locally and stopped trying to do things by diktat we would not be facing the Summer of Discontent that we are now in the middle of.

[norbet colon]

Norbet take and agree your point about RM in some ways being like the Services. However as an ex myself the biggest difference is that the local boss Major/ Squadron Leader/Lieutenant Commander (which IMO is roughly equivalent to a DOM) knows everyone under their command very well indeed, and looks after them very well. Where a DOM (in my experience) knows their names but does not know them any further and therefore fails to get the best out of them or even allow the DOM to generate a team spirit in the office.

I think if RM tried to get a Team Spirit going locally and stopped trying to do things by diktat we would not be facing the Summer of Discontent that we are now in the middle of.

That's the problem full stop, the services have a much better chain of command, the problem is the bullying corporals .
This regimented style of management with it's we know best arrogance has caused more trouble since 2002. There's no discretion, common sense or reason which means resentment , tribunuals, walkouts and dirty linen being aired in papers. Problem is that parasitical managers prosper by trying to impress more senior ones , everybody has to sing from the same hymm sheet!.

[bigsharkboy]

Grievance has gone in, though this is regarding the attendance procedure. I recently started on dialysis after being diagnosed with chronic renal failure last year. Earlier this year i had time off for surgery to insert a catheter so i could start dialysis, then i had to have a week off for dialysis training. Though the dum says he sympathises and believes i am genuinley ill, he says he has no choice but to take me down the conduct code, so he gave me a stage 1.He then informed me that if i had the day of to go to the renal clinic he would put me down as sick! I think someones out to get me.

im sure your manager is wrong he does have a feckin choice issuing a stage one on a attendance procedure is upto his/her discretetion
TRUTH is theres more paperwork if they dont issue it
WORD OF ADVICE always take a rep in with you whatever the stage
how can these managers sleep at night putting there staff thru additional stress by issuing stages when guys are seriously ill

:lfo :cfo :lfo :cfo

rant over :cfo :lfo

[norbet colon]

Grievance has gone in, though this is regarding the attendance procedure. I recently started on dialysis after being diagnosed with chronic renal failure last year. Earlier this year i had time off for surgery to insert a catheter so i could start dialysis, then i had to have a week off for dialysis training. Though the dum says he sympathises and believes i am genuinely ill, he says he has no choice but to take me down the conduct code, so he gave me a stage 1.He then informed me that if i had the day of to go to the renal clinic he would put me down as sick! I think someones out to get me.

im sure your manager is wrong he does have a feckin choice issuing a stage one on a attendance procedure is upto his/her discretetion
TRUTH is theres more paperwork if they dont issue it
WORD OF ADVICE always take a rep in with you whatever the stage
how can these managers sleep at night putting there staff thru additional stress by issuing stages when guys are seriously ill A grievance wouldn't work but one has to be registered , even if RM always know best and never go against thier own. The only due recourse is a tribunual if the illness lasts longer than a year under the DDA acts . Once any punitive award has been made against anyone it can't be remedied or justified in law.I've seen people get unpaid SL to attend hospital but those absences count under the attendance procedure.
The problem is RM do have problems with the sicknote culture , professional skivers/claimers & malingerers but they can't sort the wheat from the chaff. The DOM is frightened of upsetting managers up the chain of command , there's obviously a culture of fear or he's trying to impress somebody.Too arbitrary & regimented, that's Walmart culture for you!

:lfo :cfo :lfo :cfo

rant over :cfo :lfo