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Left alone in power, this obedient courtier would wither like a salted snail

The debate over the possibility of a Mandelson premiership remains little more than a Westminster parlour game but a number of figures are now openly touting the Business Secretary as an alternative Prime Minister.

Dr Peter Slowe, the newly-elected chairman of the Labour Finance and Industry group, was the first off the mark, arguing: "Mandelson is the only one with the clout, intellect and charisma who could realistically take on the Tories and win."

And the venerable William Rees-Mogg writes in the Times today:
"Lord Mandelson is the frontrunner; the worse the problems become, the stronger he will be. Like his grandfather, Herbert Morrison, who was the boss of London Labour politics for about 25 years, Peter Mandelson combines political skills with an entrepreneurial approach. His capacity for changing politics is like that of a major entrepreneur revolutionising an industry. It is hard to think of a political performance equal to Lord Mandelson's past 12 months. Many people go from hero to zero; Mandelson has gone from zero to hero. He appears to be the only Labour politician with the force of personality to change the bleak political weather."
Such pocket hagiographies conveniently ignore Mandelson's humiliating climbdown over the part-privatisation of Royal Mail and the public's stubborn refusal to embrace Westminster's prodigal son.

The technical obstacles to a Mandelson premiership may soon be removed through Jack Straw's amendment allowing life peers to relinquish their seats, but the political obstacles remain considerable.

Many of those who discuss the Labour leadership most vigorously continue to do so without reference to the party's electoral college, under which the affiliated trade unions hold a third of the votes. There has, to put it mildly, never been a pro-Mandelson faction in the TUC but his attempt to sell a minority stake in Royal Mail has ensured that any lone supporters will be lying low.

Yet more than this, the belief that Mandelson is well equipped to become Prime Minister represents a fundamental misreading of his life and career.

Mandelson was astute and self-critical enough to recognise early on that he was no kind of leader. Instead, he made it his mission, his raison d'être to serve those who were. His relationship with successive Labour leaders, from Kinnock to Blair and finally Brown, pays testament to this.

The reason why Brown is intensely relaxed about Mandelson's ascendency to de facto deputy prime minister is that he more than most knows that what Mandelson craves is access and influence, not the chance to lead. There is no hidden agenda behind his fierce defence of Brown's leadership in yesterday's News of the World.

As the novelist Edward Docx wrote in his extensive profile of Mandelson for Prospect, "the default setting in Mandelson's hard drive has been to identify the most powerful person in prospect and then work exclusively, almost slavishly, for them -- often at the expense of all other relationships."

Mandelson's relentless focus on individuals means that he has failed to build the factional support that all leaders depend on.

The truth is that left alone in power with no master to serve, this obedient courtier would wither like a salted snail.
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If Mandelson ever gets put in charge I'm emigrating..........infact I wish I could go now.
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Stormproof wrote:If Mandelson ever gets put in charge I'm emigrating..........infact I wish I could go now.
I was told by a Labour & Trades Council member it would be possible to put Mandy on the " chicken run " to find him a safe seat BUT then you'd need the support of the party . :Very Happy

Apparently ! :Very Happy - Mandy once asked if he could be lent 10p to phone a friend , Brown said here's 20 - phone them all :chuckle
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And who's going to vote for a Mandelson lead Labour party? The workers? :crazy:

Labour have off-loaded many of their core working class voters :d'oh! , their passionionate devotion towards middle class, middle England, knows no bounds.

At the next general election, and without significant working class support, who will sweep them to power? :hmmmm
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DirtyHarry wrote:And who's going to vote for a Mandelson lead Labour party? The workers? :crazy:

Labour have off-loaded many of their core working class voters :d'oh! , their passionionate devotion towards middle class, middle England, knows no bounds.

At the next general election, and without significant working class support, who will sweep them to power? :hmmmm
The clever thing Brown has done is give Johnson the poisoned chalice of Home Secretary to neutralize him , Johnson got out of the Health Minister's job at a " very convenient " time .

It was very cynical of B-Liar to abandon it's heartland support and try and seduce Middle England , McRuin's idea of expanding the public sector with all these Guardian job page " non - jobs " for the middle classes was another way of ensuring support . They are hardly going to vote for Cameron and end up at The Executive Job Club :hmmmm .

I'm not sure if New Liebour could find Mandy a safe seat to get his foot in the door - Crewe was a safe seat :chuckle - Mandy is a wheeler dealer , bit of a Arfur Daley spiv type full stop . Brown's no national leader , a leader of " gangs " within the PLP but that's about it .

That coup by Blairites to get rid of Brown is laughable , Brown & B-Liar is just opposite sides of the same coin .
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norbert wrote:
The clever thing Brown has done is give Johnson the poisoned chalice of Home Secretary to neutralize him , Johnson got out of the Health Minister's job at a " very convenient " time .

It was very cynical of B-Liar to abandon it's heartland support and try and seduce Middle England , McRuin's idea of expanding the public sector with all these Guardian job page " non - jobs " for the middle classes was another way of ensuring support . They are hardly going to vote for Cameron and end up at The Executive Job Club :hmmmm .

I'm not sure if New Liebour could find Mandy a safe seat to get his foot in the door - Crewe was a safe seat :chuckle - Mandy is a wheeler dealer , bit of a Arfur Daley spiv type full stop . Brown's no national leader , a leader of " gangs " within the PLP but that's about it .

That coup by Blairites to get rid of Brown is laughable , Brown & B-Liar is just opposite sides of the same coin .
After the way they've shafted postalworkers, New Liebour will never again see my vote go to them. From the next general election onwards, I'm going to vote for the Greens.
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Well chosen Dirty Harry

The Green party belive in justice for workers just as much as they do the earth's natural eco systems.

Justice and fairness for Earth its enviroment and all living things

The Green Party Trade Union Group have a website, that you will like.
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norbert wrote:
Stormproof wrote:If Mandelson ever gets put in charge I'm emigrating..........infact I wish I could go now.
I was told by a Labour & Trades Council member it would be possible to put Mandy on the " chicken run " to find him a safe seat BUT then you'd need the support of the party . :Very Happy

Apparently ! :Very Happy - Mandy once asked if he could be lent 10p to phone a friend , Brown said here's 20 - phone them all :chuckle
Bet mandy still has both 10p i would not piss on him if he were on fire!. :mfo :mfo :mfo
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Aint he just flown off somewhere on his jollys this week. :mfo
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POSTMAN wrote:Aint he just flown off somewhere on his jollys this week. :mfo
North pole bring on global warming and let the fecker swim with the penguins!. :mfo
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POSTMAN wrote:Aint he just flown off somewhere on his jollys this week. :mfo
- a single fare might be cheaper :hmmmm :chuckle but then there would be then be the expense of a Moscow type , Russian style state funeral for our much loved PM to be held , in all keeping with this government :arrrghhh

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norbert wrote:
POSTMAN wrote:Aint he just flown off somewhere on his jollys this week. :mfo
- a single fare might be cheaper :hmmmm :chuckle but then there would be then be the expense of a Moscow type , Russian style state funeral for our much loved PM to be held , in all keeping with this government :arrrghhh

http://www.private-eye.co.uk" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; - hope this is a good enough plug for them for using their front cover ?
I would gladly pay for both to be done in a fit a proper fashion off with their heads!.
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Big Daz wrote:Well chosen Dirty Harry

The Green party belive in justice for workers just as much as they do the earth's natural eco systems.

Justice and fairness for Earth its enviroment and all living things

The Green Party Trade Union Group have a website, that you will like.
I know mate. I have been liking what I've seen/heard from members of the Green party for some time now, and will give them my vote whenever I can. The Labour party I supported for all my working life, is dead, I've finally accepted that fact now.
I'll take a butchers at the website, Daz.
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DirtyHarry wrote:
Big Daz wrote:Well chosen Dirty Harry

The Green party belive in justice for workers just as much as they do the earth's natural eco systems.

Justice and fairness for Earth its enviroment and all living things

The Green Party Trade Union Group have a website, that you will like.
I know mate. I have been liking what I've seen/heard from members of the Green party for some time now, and will give them my vote whenever I can. The Labour party I supported for all my working life, is dead, I've finally accepted that fact now.
I'll take a butchers at the website, Daz.
I've spoken to people within the Constituency Labour Party who'd cut their arms off before leaving the party and they don't blame anybody for voting Green . Anyway it's Tweedle Dee & Tweedle Dum but I suspect Cameron is only pretending to be Liberal :hmmmm

There's an ex CWU GS held in much affection on one comic strip :chuckle
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norbert wrote:
DirtyHarry wrote:
Big Daz wrote:Well chosen Dirty Harry

The Green party belive in justice for workers just as much as they do the earth's natural eco systems.

Justice and fairness for Earth its enviroment and all living things

The Green Party Trade Union Group have a website, that you will like.
I know mate. I have been liking what I've seen/heard from members of the Green party for some time now, and will give them my vote whenever I can. The Labour party I supported for all my working life, is dead, I've finally accepted that fact now.
I'll take a butchers at the website, Daz.
I've spoken to people within the Constituency Labour Party who'd cut their arms off before leaving the party and they don't blame anybody for voting Green . Anyway it's Tweedle Dee & Tweedle Dum but I suspect Cameron is only pretending to be Liberal :hmmmm

There's an ex CWU GS held in much affection on one comic strip :chuckle
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I believe that given enough time Cameron will sound the death knell for the Tories, just as Brown/Mandelson have done for the Labour party.
And will we miss them? I don't think so.