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The government is insisting it will press ahead with the part-privatisation of Royal Mail, despite fresh demands by Labour MPs to drop the idea.
A Commons motion has been tabled urging ministers to rethink the proposals and keep the business in public hands.
But Business Secretary Lord Mandelson maintains the change has to take place, so the industry can survive.
Tory spokesman Ken Clarke said pushing the plan through was the "acid test" of a "lame duck" government's authority.
The plans are opposed by up to 140 Labour backbenchers and there has been speculation that they will be dropped after Prime Minister Gordon Brown survived a plot to force him out of office earlier this week.
Mr Brown's critics believe he may struggle to survive a large scale backbench rebellion on the issue.
Labour MPs, led by Lindsay Hoyle, have tabled a Commons motion urging ministers to rethink the proposals, and ensure the business remains wholly in the public sector.
'Acid test'
The motion says there are fresh doubts over whether the involvement of a private partner would improve the service, and that 75% of the public did not want it.
But Mr Clarke reminded MPs of Lord Mandelson's warning that any delay to the part-privatisation plan would merely serve to threaten the postal network's sustainability.
We remain committed to the legislation, which will be brought forward
Business Minister Pat McFadden
"This is the acid test of whether this lame-duck government is capable of delivering on difficult decisions," added the shadow business secretary.
No date has been set for the second reading of the Postal Services Bill, which cleared the Lords three weeks ago.
Mr Clarke demanded to know why the Bill was being delayed if not for reasons of "internal dissension" in the cabinet.
Business Minister Pat McFadden denied any date had ever been given for the Bill's second reading in the Commons and insisted: "We remain committed to the legislation, which will be brought forward."
'Legislative ether'
The Bill's second Commons reading had been expected two days ago but that time had come and gone without the legislation appearing.
Mr McFadden said the government was committed to reform of the Royal Mail because of the commercial challenges it faced.
Liberal Democrat business spokesman John Thurso complained that the legislation seemed to have "disappeared into the legislative ether".
He urged ministers to at least bring forward the part of the Bill dealing with regulatory provisions, if they did not want to bring forward the rest.
Mr McFadden agreed that regulatory change was needed and said this was at the heart of the Bill.
When Commons leader Harriet Harman later announced the business for the next fortnight, there was no mention of the Postal Services Bill on the schedule.
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Mail privatisation 'to go ahead'
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POSTMAN
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Mail privatisation 'to go ahead'
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
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POSTMAN
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Re: Mail privatisation 'to go ahead'
So is it a ya or a nay ffs 
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
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Re: Mail privatisation 'to go ahead'
Untill the Government come out and say the sell off is scrapped assume its going ahead with the PSB in its current format.
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I cant see how there will be time in the Commons now for this Bill, wont it be the Summer recess soon? Then the conference season, where they'll now doubt be another attempt to get rid of Broon!
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About 5 or 6 weeks left, I would say they will get the 2nd reading done before the summer break so during summer MP's can start on amendments they wish to table. We have committee and report stages to get through then a third reading then ping pong time then royal assent.
I dont think it was ever expected to be done and dusted before summer break more along the lines of towards the end of the year.
I dont think it was ever expected to be done and dusted before summer break more along the lines of towards the end of the year.
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Royal Mail plans 'remain'
Business Minister Pat McFadden insisted the Government remained "committed" to legislation part-privatising the Royal Mail.
No date has been set yet for the second reading of the Postal Services Bill.
Shadow business secretary Kenneth Clarke challenged ministers over the delay, warning it was an "acid test" of the "lame-duck" Government's ability to take tough decisions.
Royal Mail plans 'remain'
Business Minister Pat McFadden insisted the Government remained "committed" to legislation part-privatising the Royal Mail.
No date has been set yet for the second reading of the Postal Services Bill.
Shadow business secretary Kenneth Clarke challenged ministers over the delay, warning it was an "acid test" of the "lame-duck" Government's ability to take tough decisions.
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
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britwrit
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Re: Mail privatisation 'to go ahead'
It all depends on the polls. If Labour continues to hover around where they are or drop some, don't expect to see a second reading any time soon - especially around conference season. If we get a slight but sustained upward tick, Brown and co. will charge the commons again come Autumn.
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Re: Mail privatisation 'to go ahead'
Let's face it, the only reason that the sale has been delayed is because nobody was willing to pay what the Government wanted, as soon as someone offers a sum near to what Brown and co want then we'll be sold off.
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Re: Mail privatisation 'to go ahead'
Getting the 2nd reading out of the way will do no harm to those in favour or against.
Once we get to committee and report stages those who back us can submit amendments that scrap the sell off element of the PSB which will then get voted on.
The rest of the bill still need a good looking over to ensure its up to to scratch.
Once we get to committee and report stages those who back us can submit amendments that scrap the sell off element of the PSB which will then get voted on.
The rest of the bill still need a good looking over to ensure its up to to scratch.