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TrueBlueTerrier
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His Lordship, his Mandyness of somewhere near Hull, is a busy little business secretary, isn't he? Not content with telling Gordon which side to put his parting, he is also contemplating bailing out Jaguar and Land Rover (but not Woolies), whilst musing that it would be a fine idea to sell off 49% of Royal Mail.
I expected to read howls of derision from the Brand Republic community but no. Come on team, this is the future of our industry we are talking about here. The ability to reach every house in the land for the same price is crucial to direct marketing. Direct marketing is equally crucial to our postal service. Can you see a private, commercial business trotting up the drive in Truro, or Aberdeen, for the price of a first class stamp?
Okay, deep breath, but I actually agree with Tony Wedgewood Benn. This is a public service we are talking about here, not a commercial enterprise. Sure, lots of people would like to run the big metropolitan areas, but no one is going to want all the green bits around them. Obviously it could be run better. For goodness sake, Adam Crozier is in charge. Remember his time at the FA? Unfortunately, he did not do FA. Allegedly he screwed the place up. Now, walking at a steady four miles per hour, he is doing the same thing to the RM. With the help of the unions, of course.
He can't make it pay. OF COURSE HE BLOODY CAN'T. Bits of the business will never make money, and you can bet your bottom dollar that Mandy won't be selling those. He will try to sell off the good bits, for a one-off windfall that we can all say Tata too (Geddit?) when he gives it to some poor, undeserving Indian businesman, or another failing bank.
As a nation, we have to accept a few facts about our post. There is less of it. No one writes letters anymore. Well, obviously some people do, but not as many as they once did, and it is a dying art. The younger generations email, and the older generation who do still put pen to paper are slowly dying out. Businesses still send bills, but this will get less too. More and more correspondence will happen electronically. However, there will always be some mail, and we might have to accept that it won't get there every day.
But so what? Is that such a problem? DM helps to subsidise it, and the government should do so to. Rationalise it, make it as cost efficient as possible, but don't privatise it...if you still want a national service.
http://community.brandrepublic.com/blog ... never.aspx
His Lordship, his Mandyness of somewhere near Hull, is a busy little business secretary, isn't he? Not content with telling Gordon which side to put his parting, he is also contemplating bailing out Jaguar and Land Rover (but not Woolies), whilst musing that it would be a fine idea to sell off 49% of Royal Mail.
I expected to read howls of derision from the Brand Republic community but no. Come on team, this is the future of our industry we are talking about here. The ability to reach every house in the land for the same price is crucial to direct marketing. Direct marketing is equally crucial to our postal service. Can you see a private, commercial business trotting up the drive in Truro, or Aberdeen, for the price of a first class stamp?
Okay, deep breath, but I actually agree with Tony Wedgewood Benn. This is a public service we are talking about here, not a commercial enterprise. Sure, lots of people would like to run the big metropolitan areas, but no one is going to want all the green bits around them. Obviously it could be run better. For goodness sake, Adam Crozier is in charge. Remember his time at the FA? Unfortunately, he did not do FA. Allegedly he screwed the place up. Now, walking at a steady four miles per hour, he is doing the same thing to the RM. With the help of the unions, of course.
He can't make it pay. OF COURSE HE BLOODY CAN'T. Bits of the business will never make money, and you can bet your bottom dollar that Mandy won't be selling those. He will try to sell off the good bits, for a one-off windfall that we can all say Tata too (Geddit?) when he gives it to some poor, undeserving Indian businesman, or another failing bank.
As a nation, we have to accept a few facts about our post. There is less of it. No one writes letters anymore. Well, obviously some people do, but not as many as they once did, and it is a dying art. The younger generations email, and the older generation who do still put pen to paper are slowly dying out. Businesses still send bills, but this will get less too. More and more correspondence will happen electronically. However, there will always be some mail, and we might have to accept that it won't get there every day.
But so what? Is that such a problem? DM helps to subsidise it, and the government should do so to. Rationalise it, make it as cost efficient as possible, but don't privatise it...if you still want a national service.
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Even business men think its a bad idea
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fmrPOSTIE
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A pretty good article there, as i've said too -rationalise it ,streamline, whatever. But there is NO NEED to privatise. And its 33% not 49% 
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There has been no mention of the amount to be privatised, only a minority shareholding which I'll assume to be 50%-1share until the government put it in writing otherwise.fmrPOSTIE wrote:A pretty good article there, as i've said too -rationalise it ,streamline, whatever. But there is NO NEED to privatise. And its 33% not 49%
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disgruntledpostie1 wrote:There has been no mention of the amount to be privatised, only a minority shareholding which I'll assume to be 50%-1share until the government put it in writing otherwise.fmrPOSTIE wrote:A pretty good article there, as i've said too -rationalise it ,streamline, whatever. But there is NO NEED to privatise. And its 33% not 49%
Yup,the phrase used by TNT is 'significant minority shareholding'
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I keep reading this nonsense about the negative impact of email and text messaging on mail volumes. I honestly think that 99.99% of personal electronic communications over the past 10 years haven't been alternatives to the written letter. The content of most emails/text would never have warranted the effort of writing and posting a letter.As a nation, we have to accept a few facts about our post. There is less of it. No one writes letters anymore. Well, obviously some people do, but not as many as they once did, and it is a dying art. The younger generations email, and the older generation who do still put pen to paper are slowly dying out. Businesses still send bills, but this will get less too. More and more correspondence will happen electronically.
edit: of course, the impact of paperless billing is another matter...
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kingtubby wrote:I keep reading this nonsense about the negative impact of email and text messaging on mail volumes. I honestly think that 99.99% of personal electronic communications over the past 10 years haven't been alternatives to the written letter. The content of most emails/text would never have warranted the effort of writing and posting a letter.As a nation, we have to accept a few facts about our post. There is less of it. No one writes letters anymore. Well, obviously some people do, but not as many as they once did, and it is a dying art. The younger generations email, and the older generation who do still put pen to paper are slowly dying out. Businesses still send bills, but this will get less too. More and more correspondence will happen electronically.
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disgruntledpostie1 wrote:kingtubby wrote:I keep reading this nonsense about the negative impact of email and text messaging on mail volumes. I honestly think that 99.99% of personal electronic communications over the past 10 years haven't been alternatives to the written letter. The content of most emails/text would never have warranted the effort of writing and posting a letter.As a nation, we have to accept a few facts about our post. There is less of it. No one writes letters anymore. Well, obviously some people do, but not as many as they once did, and it is a dying art. The younger generations email, and the older generation who do still put pen to paper are slowly dying out. Businesses still send bills, but this will get less too. More and more correspondence will happen electronically.![]()
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It's just another red herring meant to confuse everyone and to help smooth the way to privatisation.
Back in the days of 6 deliveries a day a letter saying "on my way home put tea on" might have worked but that was 80 years ago. No matter how super efficient we get there is no way we will compete with texts for immediate replies and there is no reason why we should even try its a fools paradise.


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fmrPOSTIE
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I cant see how text messaging has an effect on mail volumes, this is cobblers surely? Email perhaps but i just dont buy this argument that the electronic era is detsroying the postal service, look at page 11 of the Hooper Report; Mail volume peaked in 88/89 then dropped off in the early 90s and recouped itself in 1999. Maybe these things go in cycles, yes mail volume is falling but who's to say it wont rise again in the near future? And what happens then? Will RM have the infrastructure to deal with a rise?
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Re: I'm Mandy, Fly Me, Flog Me, Buy Me
A post office PAYG phone service anyone?
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http://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/08/news0918.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;Big Daz wrote:A post office PAYG phone service anyone?
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
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The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
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Big Daz
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About time they moved out of the planning stage, although they might need expertise and private finance from Europe.
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BB brother
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Give it a couple of months and Mandy will doubtless self-destruct in a News of the World expose concerning young men and ice cream.
At least the economy goin t#ts up will keep him busy till then !
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At least the economy goin t#ts up will keep him busy till then !
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