TRIALLING HCT’s DM26 UPDATE

[Mr Rush]

No chance of the duties being converted to CDV?

Never heard that abbreviation before in 29 years service

CDV sands for car derived van, most recent example the vauxhall combis that were based on a Corsa, prior to that we had astra vans, escort vans, Morris marina vans, and really far back the van version of a mini and morris minor, obviously that's outdated now with the current fleet of Peugeots etc that are standalone vans and the different e-vans we've got, presumably that acronym will disappear eventually.

Yep, it's an arcane acronym I've only ever encountered here in relation to the rollout of P&L. As you say, increasingly the fleet is now proper Transit-style vans because there's too many packets to fit in a 2011 Vauxhall Combo.

[tonyjkilleen]

ive been doing my hct share for the last month 2/3 of my own duty plus tracked normally 2days of mail + 2/3of the next duty first class tracked and packets and its a mare walking at least 30%extra every day often with 100 scanned items .it used too be a enviable duty but theres no way under this current model i would repick this duty all duties are failing

[tramssirhc]

ive been doing my hct share for the last month 2/3 of my own duty plus tracked normally 2days of mail + 2/3of the next duty first class tracked and packets and its a mare walking at least 30%extra every day often with 100 scanned items .it used too be a enviable duty but theres no way under this current model i would repick this duty all duties are failing

Why has the rep agreed to this?

[tramssirhc]

The short wheel base partners are CDV's. Anything built on a chassis designed for car is a CDV.

[Benson97]

I had a HCT duty a few years ago, the reason I’m on one now is because I’ve been displaced until the resign happens ( in the new year ) I absolutely hate it and I’m looking to get of it ASAP

I don't believe this. The problem I have with your posts is that they are contradictory and seem fabricated which means I doubt the sincerity of what you are writing.

I am no fan of DM26 but I want posts to be genuine and so we get a good understanding of how the DM26 is working. In my opinion you are exaggerating your workload and not being honest in the details of your circumstances.

Your very 1st post on this website: 14th March 2021
You stated

'Ive been a postie at ######### DO for nearly 10 years'

then you write in February 2026:
Currently I’m on a HCT duty and I have nearly 30 years on the job, reading into the current ODM method RM want to bring in it looks very bleak for us non-drivers. I’ve asked about HCT duties available in the incoming ODM revision ( which will happen ) to the COM he told me they will be HCT duties available then changed his tune a few days later when asked again, the local union rep said straight away no HCT duties will be available. I totally understand that the job is a driving job now but I do hope when the time comes RM will recognise the service some have put in instead of trying to fob us off to another office and say we offered him a alternative. Give me a half decent “ see you “ package because all voluntary redundancy is £14k that works out £500 for every year worked.I hope they do the right thing but sadly current events I cannot see this.


So you have now done 30 years at Royal Mail, not 10. You were on an HCT duty before DM26 came in and you havent been displaced.

I just can't trust anything you say on this forum.

Maybe he worked at another delivery office and he's only been at his current office for 10 years?

[Hitcher]

Wrong thread.

[TopperGas]

ive been doing my hct share for the last month 2/3 of my own duty plus tracked normally 2days of mail + 2/3of the next duty first class tracked and packets and its a mare walking at least 30%extra every day often with 100 scanned items .it used too be a enviable duty but theres no way under this current model i would repick this duty all duties are failing

Aren't 100 Tracked items plus 1c mail enough to deliver from an HCT on a short day anyway, without also trying to deliver the 2 days mail as well? If what you are saying is correct it looks like you're expected to cover 1½ duties, which seems madness.

[Emohawk]

Yes, between 7/8 miles doing my own duty, we’ve tried doing 50/50 and 1/3 ( everything goes ) dissolved delivery and we’ve also tried 50/50 1/2 ( everything goes ) dissolved delivery.., the later was a complete car crash, over 13 miles walking non stop, a absolute killer.

All the HCT's within the wider region of my office are clearing. The problems tend to be van shares not HCT's, Rurals or Firms that I will remind you are doing 50/50!

HCT's tend to be in local proximity to the office and are duties that were traditionally seen as some of the easiest in the office. On repicks they tend to be the duties that go first!

People on HCT duties are doing 50/50 so only half their duty they are delivering mail and the rest only 1st and parcels. Added to this, parcels too big for the HCT or parcels beyond the capacity of the HCT they will have to be left at the depot which van shares do not get the luxury off!

So in terms of the 50/50 aspect of the new delivery model you are doing significantly less walking!

The only way it can fail is the demands management are asking of you after doing the 50/50 aspect of your duty. You say you had 10 tracked and a handful of 1st which seems like a ridiculously easy day to me!

The best proposal I have seen is that every HCT doing 50/50 takes a third each from another HCT duty. This is working in other offices.

I think you misunderstood what I meant with 10 tracked and a handful of first class I used that to point out an example of say a couple of roads not the entirety of the extra, if all I was taking on the extra bit was 10 tracked and a handful of first class I wouldn’t be on hear making a point about it would I ?
I reckon on average I’ve been doing 70 tracked and at least 30 tracked on the covered duty, as I stated walking round a half a delivery with a total of 860 delivery points delivering 25/30 first class letters and minimum 30 tracked you still walking half that delivery.
As for HCT duties you seem to make out there the golden egg and everybody wants them, hmmmm.., not the case.
Most people want a HCT because they don’t want a van share and not because there so called easier ??

We haven't gone over to DM26 yet, but the HCT'a are, without question, the best duties in the office. They are cleared everyday.