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Can A Duty under DDA be ring fenced ?

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Ratty
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Re: Can A Duty under DDA be ring fenced ?

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liamlayor wrote:Don't know which Union bod told you that positive discrimination is 'cherry picking', Ratty, but that's about the level of Union knowledge many of us have been subjected to. The funny thing is, they even have a 'disability officer' but I don't know what that person gets paid for, certainly not for their knowledge of the Equality Act. If any of you ever find yourself unfortunate enough to be NEGATIVELY discriminated against because of a disability, don't expect the CWU to help, not even their disability officer. The best thing to do is to argue against managements discrimination then ask for a grievance form (but don't whatever you do, expect a reply) then, within 3 months less one day, submit an ET claim for disability discrimination and harrassment (this is usually applicable).
The Union couldn't give a toss (although they'll try to jump on the bandwagon and claim kudos for having handled the case, even when they haven't) and the only way to make Royal Mail sit up and take notice is for all of us to assert our LEGAL rights ourselves with help from members of this site if needed.
I don't expect any help from the union as to be honest it is the union that is actively blocking me being able to secure any kind of duty content when a repick is done. They are not interested in even discussing it until it gets to my name on the seniority list even if that means that by the time it does get to me that all suitable duty content has been picked by others.

The union is going on the "seniority above all else" rule because doing anything else gets them hassle from a minority of other members who automatically assume that anyone who tries to get work content under the DDA or equality Act are con artists and voice their opinions loud and clear.

In contrast I have found dealing with my local manager to be a mostly positive experience as he has allowed me time off for medical appointments when I can't get them on my days off and allowed me to swap my midweek day off if needed and has been very understanding when I've brought issues to his attention. In fact as a whole, so far it is only the repick process and how the union deals with that which raises my concern over my ability to have access to suitable duty content in the future although I'm sure as I go along there will be other problems that crop up but I'm trying to prepare for them as best I can and reading this forum has helped no end.

I feel I should point out that I don't think the union at my base is intentionally trying to make thing worse for me or have personal reasons not to help but I do believe there is a need for someone at top level union status nationally to actually put clear national guidelines on paper that make all sections of the business operate in the proper manner everywhere in the country and the longer it takes to do this the more people with disabilities are going to lose their jobs due to their cases being handled badly.
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Re: Can A Duty under DDA be ring fenced ?

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fishtank wrote:
19 Mar 2012, 15:31
abraham wrote:Sorry, but is this in the Business Transformation Agreement?
It is part of the Duty Revision pack given to managers to plan revisions based on the Business Transformation Agreement.

Duty Planning Individual needs and reasonable adjustments.doc
Is this advice/agreement still valid? I was told by my COM and local rep that it is no longer a thing although it used to be.
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Re: Can A Duty under DDA be ring fenced ?

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If you cannot do a full duty because of a disability, the delivery office manager will do a scoping exercise to transfer to another office, such as a mail centre, for example.

Royal Mail cannot refuse to make reasonable adjustments with any major organisational change.
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Re: Can A Duty under DDA be ring fenced ?

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JoPostie wrote:
17 Jul 2026, 09:51


Is this advice/agreement still valid? I was told by my COM and local rep that it is no longer a thing although it used to be.
In the case of individuals with adjusted duty needs and arrangements covered under the Equality Act (e.g disability, family-friendly etc.) there is a direct requirement for the local manager or Person in Charge (PIC) to undertake a robust review of the reasonable adjustments and workplace adjustment to ensure the individual’s protective measures and workplace adjustment are maintained or improved. This should in all cases happen in advance of any changes being made.
RMG’S EXECUTIVE ACTION ON REVISION/CHANGE PROGRAMME IN DELIVERY OFFICES & MAIL CENTRE

Tell both the c***s you mentioned in your post to come on here. Take it higher.
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It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
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Re: Can A Duty under DDA be ring fenced ?

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Don't want to be negative, but saying put it into the IR Framework is a joke.
Royal Mail just sticks two fingers up with no redress
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Re: Can A Duty under DDA be ring fenced ?

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redlen wrote:
17 Jul 2026, 17:09
If you cannot do a full duty because of a disability, the delivery office manager will do a scoping exercise to transfer to another office, such as a mail centre, for example.

Royal Mail cannot refuse to make reasonable adjustments with any major organisational change.
Transfer to a MC is very unlikely unless they are capable of being on their feet the whole shift. The "DDA duties" will already be spoken for with existing staff at a MC.
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Re: Can A Duty under DDA be ring fenced ?

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Thanks for the reply and link @POSTMAN I am currently emailing the area H&S rep for his advice.