Couldn’t make it up.

[SpacePhoenix]

Based on recent summers these heat waves have become part of the new normal they promised us during COVID. Along with disgraceful fuel prices, hyper food inflation, ever more absurd politics etc.

Anyway, that makes the problem hard to address from all sides. Only earlier starting would be a fix but that's not realistic. So what else can be done? I cannot think of much.

Earlier starts may have to become the norm in summer, as trying to deliver mail in the heat of the afternoon sum is madness. I doubt they do it in Spain or the South of France?

Would you have enough indoor work on hand to make earlier starts work? The dispatch times from MC won't get any earlier.

[citypostie]

You know what royal mail are like they will suggest a split shift , finish first half of delivery about 12 then start the second half about 5pm as it starts to cool down. With the added bonus any lat parcels for the 2nd half of the delivery can be done as well

[tramssirhc]

It is not true that there is nothing that can be done. Workloads could be reduced allowing more time to take more breaks and to complete deliveries. No one is going to say no to smaller walks.

[Whippy]

You know what royal mail are like they will suggest a split shift , finish first half of delivery about 12 then start the second half about 5pm as it starts to cool down. With the added bonus any lat parcels for the 2nd half of the delivery can be done as well

Absolutely no way would anyone want to work like this!

[TopperGas]

It is not true that there is nothing that can be done. Workloads could be reduced allowing more time to take more breaks and to complete deliveries. No one has going to say no to smaller walks.

Not sure RM are forcing staff to stay out until all the post is delivered, so they are effectively allowing smaller walks.

Although how can RM shorten walks just for the summer anyway.

If summers continue like this, or even get worse, RM are going to have to allow earlier starts, as I assume they must do in Spain etc?

[Mr Rush]

If summers continue like this, or even get worse, RM are going to have to allow earlier starts

'But there'd be no work in the unit', they'll cry. At the moment we could do what we've done in previous Decembers and head right back out the door at 0830 with the failed work from the previous day ('twas like Saturdays of old). It's July but many offices look a lot like December at the moment, so that's eminently possible.

I'm completely ignoring the issue of the incoming Tracked, of course. The attachment to LTB 190/26 has a table of postcodes in which T48 is effectively T72. Make that national. Swap the indoor and outdoor functions around. Is that so different from doing IPS after coming back from the first delivery?

[citypostie]

You know what royal mail are like they will suggest a split shift , finish first half of delivery about 12 then start the second half about 5pm as it starts to cool down. With the added bonus any lat parcels for the 2nd half of the delivery can be done as well

Absolutely no way would anyone want to work like this!

Nobody wanted to van share or wants to do dm26 but it didn't stop them doing either! I'm sure it's how they work in Spain , a nice siesta during the hottest part of the day.

[tramssirhc]

If summers continue like this, or even get worse, RM are going to have to allow earlier starts

'But there'd be no work in the unit', they'll cry. At the moment we could do what we've done in previous Decembers and head right back out the door at 0830 with the failed work from the previous day ('twas like Saturdays of old). It's July but many offices look a lot like December at the moment, so that's eminently possible.

I'm completely ignoring the issue of the incoming Tracked, of course. The attachment to LTB 190/26 has a table of postcodes in which T48 is effectively T72. Make that national. Swap the indoor and outdoor functions around. Is that so different from doing IPS after coming back from the first delivery?

This requires a workers first mentality. The CWU has a work first mentality.

[tramssirhc]

It is not true that there is nothing that can be done. Workloads could be reduced allowing more time to take more breaks and to complete deliveries. No one has going to say no to smaller walks.

Not sure RM are forcing staff to stay out until all the post is delivered, so they are effectively allowing smaller walks.

Although how can RM shorten walks just for the summer anyway.

If summers continue like this, or even get worse, RM are going to have to allow earlier starts, as I assume they must do in Spain etc?

This is a work first mentality. Pure CWUism.

[SpacePhoenix]

If summers continue like this, or even get worse, RM are going to have to allow earlier starts

'But there'd be no work in the unit', they'll cry. At the moment we could do what we've done in previous Decembers and head right back out the door at 0830 with the failed work from the previous day ('twas like Saturdays of old). It's July but many offices look a lot like December at the moment, so that's eminently possible.

I'm completely ignoring the issue of the incoming Tracked, of course. The attachment to LTB 190/26 has a table of postcodes in which T48 is effectively T72. Make that national. Swap the indoor and outdoor functions around. Is that so different from doing IPS after coming back from the first delivery?

Looking at that list, it's basically the Scottish Islands. There's no way that RM will ever extend it to the rest of the UK.

[Pfrizzy10]

It is not true that there is nothing that can be done. Workloads could be reduced allowing more time to take more breaks and to complete deliveries. No one has going to say no to smaller walks.

Not sure RM are forcing staff to stay out until all the post is delivered, so they are effectively allowing smaller walks.

Although how can RM shorten walks just for the summer anyway.

If summers continue like this, or even get worse, RM are going to have to allow earlier starts, as I assume they must do in Spain etc?

Have a bit of sense. They can’t force you to stay out/work a minute past your time.

[TopperGas]

It is not true that there is nothing that can be done. Workloads could be reduced allowing more time to take more breaks and to complete deliveries. No one has going to say no to smaller walks.

Not sure RM are forcing staff to stay out until all the post is delivered, so they are effectively allowing smaller walks.

Although how can RM shorten walks just for the summer anyway.

If summers continue like this, or even get worse, RM are going to have to allow earlier starts, as I assume they must do in Spain etc?

Have a bit of sense. They can’t force you to stay out/work a minute past your time.

That's the issue, finishing at 3pm/4pm is far too late when temperatures are hitting 30c+ and according to the weather "experts" summer temperatures are only going to increase.

[claretandblue]

It's not beyond the whit of man, you work one day behind, back to 5 o'clock starts, out for 7, back for 1130, sort and prep for tomorrow.

[SpacePhoenix]

It's not beyond the whit of man, you work one day behind, back to 5 o'clock starts, out for 7, back for 1130, sort and prep for tomorrow.

Sadly that'll never happen as it would massively fail the 1C quality of service and also would fail all the specials, we send the specials out on the wave 2, which with your idea anything on wave 2 would automatically fail, including all the specials.

[clashcityrocker]

Sadly that'll never happen as it would massively fail the 1C quality of service and also would fail all the specials, we send the specials out on the wave 2, which with your idea anything on wave 2 would automatically fail, including all the specials.

Yes everything would fail (a it does when it snows or is windy or even if there is a traffic accident) but nobody would die.