So non drivers in on Saturdays could prep the mail in the frames for Monday?ted_e_bear wrote: ↑25 Jun 2026, 22:21Thanks for that it clears up how the "coincidental" items will be dealt with.mr hil. wrote: ↑25 Jun 2026, 21:03There is a new way of prepping your duties with DM26
All mail that arrives in the mech trays go straight to you RM2000 frame and is thrown in. All items in the mech trays are due that day including all 1st class, 2nd class, internationals, anything else. Any machinable 2nd class mail for any part or full walk that is on a "Light day" will be held at the mail centre unless there is a 1st class item for an address.
You next collect any 1st class manual mail from the new pink IPS frames and throw that in.
Next you sort all the parcels and packets for your duty, scanning them to core etc.
Finally you go to the new Blue or Yellow manual IPS frames, and collect the mail, if you are on a light day once at your frame you only throw in any 2nd class into any addresses that already have mail in the frame or have a packet/parcel, everything else is to be stored in a tray at the frame and prepped the next day.
If you are on a heavy day you prep all the manual 2nd class.
You finally tie down and CLEAR all mail from the frame. The only items left in the frame should be D2D and also the tray of manual mail left for the next day.
The main difference being you only prep the second class (blue/yellow) after all 1st class and packets/parcels are thrown in
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qwerty2
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Re: dm26
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TopperGas
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Re: dm26
If that applies to the rurals etc then good luck trying to get them to assist with packets etc as they get upto 2 trays of Mech at the start of the week. Although what's the point in delivering the Radio Times on a 1c only day when RM are clearly telling everybody no 2c mail will be delivered on a 1c only day?qwerty2 wrote: ↑25 Jun 2026, 22:40So non drivers in on Saturdays could prep the mail in the frames for Monday?ted_e_bear wrote: ↑25 Jun 2026, 22:21Thanks for that it clears up how the "coincidental" items will be dealt with.mr hil. wrote: ↑25 Jun 2026, 21:03There is a new way of prepping your duties with DM26
All mail that arrives in the mech trays go straight to you RM2000 frame and is thrown in. All items in the mech trays are due that day including all 1st class, 2nd class, internationals, anything else. Any machinable 2nd class mail for any part or full walk that is on a "Light day" will be held at the mail centre unless there is a 1st class item for an address.
You next collect any 1st class manual mail from the new pink IPS frames and throw that in.
Next you sort all the parcels and packets for your duty, scanning them to core etc.
Finally you go to the new Blue or Yellow manual IPS frames, and collect the mail, if you are on a light day once at your frame you only throw in any 2nd class into any addresses that already have mail in the frame or have a packet/parcel, everything else is to be stored in a tray at the frame and prepped the next day.
If you are on a heavy day you prep all the manual 2nd class.
You finally tie down and CLEAR all mail from the frame. The only items left in the frame should be D2D and also the tray of manual mail left for the next day.
The main difference being you only prep the second class (blue/yellow) after all 1st class and packets/parcels are thrown in
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GRS
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Re: dm26
What are complete arsecake way of working. Who actually comes up with such nonsense.mr hil. wrote: ↑25 Jun 2026, 21:03There is a new way of prepping your duties with DM26
All mail that arrives in the mech trays go straight to you RM2000 frame and is thrown in. All items in the mech trays are due that day including all 1st class, 2nd class, internationals, anything else. Any machinable 2nd class mail for any part or full walk that is on a "Light day" will be held at the mail centre unless there is a 1st class item for an address.
You next collect any 1st class manual mail from the new pink IPS frames and throw that in.
Next you sort all the parcels and packets for your duty, scanning them to core etc.
Finally you go to the new Blue or Yellow manual IPS frames, and collect the mail, if you are on a light day once at your frame you only throw in any 2nd class into any addresses that already have mail in the frame or have a packet/parcel, everything else is to be stored in a tray at the frame and prepped the next day.
If you are on a heavy day you prep all the manual 2nd class.
You finally tie down and CLEAR all mail from the frame. The only items left in the frame should be D2D and also the tray of manual mail left for the next day.
The main difference being you only prep the second class (blue/yellow) after all 1st class and packets/parcels are thrown in
The paragraph that starts with”Finally you go to the new Blue or Yellow manual IPS frames” really sums up how stupid this all is. So what about house with shared paths? Only the one who has a 1C letter that day gets any 2C as well but the house next door which is literally 6 inches away doesn’t get theirs but you may well walk up that path the next day just to deliver those available items. What about blocks of flats? Yeah let’s walk up 6 flights of stairs to deliver one 1C letter to a property at the top bypassing a dozen other doors that have mail now sitting under the frames waiting till the next day, and what about blocks of flats that have boxes in a row by the main entrance? You enter & deliver to four of them but leave the other two’s mail at the office. Strange lot who come up with these bollocks ideas.
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Acca Dacca
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Re: dm26
I thought it was just, on shared vans, one frame gets all products ( heavy ) and the other frame 1st class and Tracked only ( light ) swapping each dayGRS wrote: ↑26 Jun 2026, 20:12What are complete arsecake way of working. Who actually comes up with such nonsense.mr hil. wrote: ↑25 Jun 2026, 21:03There is a new way of prepping your duties with DM26
All mail that arrives in the mech trays go straight to you RM2000 frame and is thrown in. All items in the mech trays are due that day including all 1st class, 2nd class, internationals, anything else. Any machinable 2nd class mail for any part or full walk that is on a "Light day" will be held at the mail centre unless there is a 1st class item for an address.
You next collect any 1st class manual mail from the new pink IPS frames and throw that in.
Next you sort all the parcels and packets for your duty, scanning them to core etc.
Finally you go to the new Blue or Yellow manual IPS frames, and collect the mail, if you are on a light day once at your frame you only throw in any 2nd class into any addresses that already have mail in the frame or have a packet/parcel, everything else is to be stored in a tray at the frame and prepped the next day.
If you are on a heavy day you prep all the manual 2nd class.
You finally tie down and CLEAR all mail from the frame. The only items left in the frame should be D2D and also the tray of manual mail left for the next day.
The main difference being you only prep the second class (blue/yellow) after all 1st class and packets/parcels are thrown in
The paragraph that starts with”Finally you go to the new Blue or Yellow manual IPS frames” really sums up how stupid this all is. So what about house with shared paths? Only the one who has a 1C letter that day gets any 2C as well but the house next door which is literally 6 inches away doesn’t get theirs but you may well walk up that path the next day just to deliver those available items. What about blocks of flats? Yeah let’s walk up 6 flights of stairs to deliver one 1C letter to a property at the top bypassing a dozen other doors that have mail now sitting under the frames waiting till the next day, and what about blocks of flats that have boxes in a row by the main entrance? You enter & deliver to four of them but leave the other two’s mail at the office. Strange lot who come up with these bollocks ideas.
If you tolerate this, then your paid break will be next
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qwerty2
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Re: dm26
You also do 2 light bags and 2 heavy bags each on the singleton dutyAcca Dacca wrote: ↑26 Jun 2026, 20:35I thought it was just, on shared vans, one frame gets all products ( heavy ) and the other frame 1st class and Tracked only ( light ) swapping each dayGRS wrote: ↑26 Jun 2026, 20:12What are complete arsecake way of working. Who actually comes up with such nonsense.mr hil. wrote: ↑25 Jun 2026, 21:03There is a new way of prepping your duties with DM26
All mail that arrives in the mech trays go straight to you RM2000 frame and is thrown in. All items in the mech trays are due that day including all 1st class, 2nd class, internationals, anything else. Any machinable 2nd class mail for any part or full walk that is on a "Light day" will be held at the mail centre unless there is a 1st class item for an address.
You next collect any 1st class manual mail from the new pink IPS frames and throw that in.
Next you sort all the parcels and packets for your duty, scanning them to core etc.
Finally you go to the new Blue or Yellow manual IPS frames, and collect the mail, if you are on a light day once at your frame you only throw in any 2nd class into any addresses that already have mail in the frame or have a packet/parcel, everything else is to be stored in a tray at the frame and prepped the next day.
If you are on a heavy day you prep all the manual 2nd class.
You finally tie down and CLEAR all mail from the frame. The only items left in the frame should be D2D and also the tray of manual mail left for the next day.
The main difference being you only prep the second class (blue/yellow) after all 1st class and packets/parcels are thrown in
The paragraph that starts with”Finally you go to the new Blue or Yellow manual IPS frames” really sums up how stupid this all is. So what about house with shared paths? Only the one who has a 1C letter that day gets any 2C as well but the house next door which is literally 6 inches away doesn’t get theirs but you may well walk up that path the next day just to deliver those available items. What about blocks of flats? Yeah let’s walk up 6 flights of stairs to deliver one 1C letter to a property at the top bypassing a dozen other doors that have mail now sitting under the frames waiting till the next day, and what about blocks of flats that have boxes in a row by the main entrance? You enter & deliver to four of them but leave the other two’s mail at the office. Strange lot who come up with these bollocks ideas.
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postslippete
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Re: dm26
Exactly my thoughts
RM are optimising for service standards rather than efficiency, but I do wonder how many delivery miles or minutes are actually saved working this way. If you're still walking 95% of the route but only delivering 60-70% of the mail, have you really improved efficiency or simply deferred the workload until tomorrow?
On the face of it, shareholder value is the dumbest idea in the world.
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Acca Dacca
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Re: dm26
Yeah so where is this idea coming from thats being discussed above? Thats not whats been proposedqwerty2 wrote: ↑26 Jun 2026, 20:45You also do 2 light bags and 2 heavy bags each on the singleton dutyAcca Dacca wrote: ↑26 Jun 2026, 20:35I thought it was just, on shared vans, one frame gets all products ( heavy ) and the other frame 1st class and Tracked only ( light ) swapping each dayGRS wrote: ↑26 Jun 2026, 20:12What are complete arsecake way of working. Who actually comes up with such nonsense.mr hil. wrote: ↑25 Jun 2026, 21:03There is a new way of prepping your duties with DM26
All mail that arrives in the mech trays go straight to you RM2000 frame and is thrown in. All items in the mech trays are due that day including all 1st class, 2nd class, internationals, anything else. Any machinable 2nd class mail for any part or full walk that is on a "Light day" will be held at the mail centre unless there is a 1st class item for an address.
You next collect any 1st class manual mail from the new pink IPS frames and throw that in.
Next you sort all the parcels and packets for your duty, scanning them to core etc.
Finally you go to the new Blue or Yellow manual IPS frames, and collect the mail, if you are on a light day once at your frame you only throw in any 2nd class into any addresses that already have mail in the frame or have a packet/parcel, everything else is to be stored in a tray at the frame and prepped the next day.
If you are on a heavy day you prep all the manual 2nd class.
You finally tie down and CLEAR all mail from the frame. The only items left in the frame should be D2D and also the tray of manual mail left for the next day.
The main difference being you only prep the second class (blue/yellow) after all 1st class and packets/parcels are thrown in
The paragraph that starts with”Finally you go to the new Blue or Yellow manual IPS frames” really sums up how stupid this all is. So what about house with shared paths? Only the one who has a 1C letter that day gets any 2C as well but the house next door which is literally 6 inches away doesn’t get theirs but you may well walk up that path the next day just to deliver those available items. What about blocks of flats? Yeah let’s walk up 6 flights of stairs to deliver one 1C letter to a property at the top bypassing a dozen other doors that have mail now sitting under the frames waiting till the next day, and what about blocks of flats that have boxes in a row by the main entrance? You enter & deliver to four of them but leave the other two’s mail at the office. Strange lot who come up with these bollocks ideas.
If you tolerate this, then your paid break will be next
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A2B
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Re: dm26
There is no one proposal! The CWU have left each office try and make it work for themselvesAcca Dacca wrote: ↑26 Jun 2026, 21:01
Yeah so where is this idea coming from thats being discussed above? Thats not whats been proposed
That is the one amongst many problems with DM26, what works for office A won't work for office B and the staff in each office while still on the same pay will have very different workloads
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SpacePhoenix
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Re: dm26
We still don't know what RM plan to do with any 2C mech mail which has hit the time limit for the product used.mr hil. wrote: ↑25 Jun 2026, 21:03There is a new way of prepping your duties with DM26
All mail that arrives in the mech trays go straight to you RM2000 frame and is thrown in. All items in the mech trays are due that day including all 1st class, 2nd class, internationals, anything else. Any machinable 2nd class mail for any part or full walk that is on a "Light day" will be held at the mail centre unless there is a 1st class item for an address.
You next collect any 1st class manual mail from the new pink IPS frames and throw that in.
Next you sort all the parcels and packets for your duty, scanning them to core etc.
Finally you go to the new Blue or Yellow manual IPS frames, and collect the mail, if you are on a light day once at your frame you only throw in any 2nd class into any addresses that already have mail in the frame or have a packet/parcel, everything else is to be stored in a tray at the frame and prepped the next day.
If you are on a heavy day you prep all the manual 2nd class.
You finally tie down and CLEAR all mail from the frame. The only items left in the frame should be D2D and also the tray of manual mail left for the next day.
The main difference being you only prep the second class (blue/yellow) after all 1st class and packets/parcels are thrown in
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TopperGas
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Re: dm26
It's no different than we're already doing with Tracked items, problem is if you start taking next doors post or an whole block of flats then you start adding so much time to your delivery span you can't complete.GRS wrote: ↑26 Jun 2026, 20:12What are complete arsecake way of working. Who actually comes up with such nonsense.mr hil. wrote: ↑25 Jun 2026, 21:03There is a new way of prepping your duties with DM26
All mail that arrives in the mech trays go straight to you RM2000 frame and is thrown in. All items in the mech trays are due that day including all 1st class, 2nd class, internationals, anything else. Any machinable 2nd class mail for any part or full walk that is on a "Light day" will be held at the mail centre unless there is a 1st class item for an address.
You next collect any 1st class manual mail from the new pink IPS frames and throw that in.
Next you sort all the parcels and packets for your duty, scanning them to core etc.
Finally you go to the new Blue or Yellow manual IPS frames, and collect the mail, if you are on a light day once at your frame you only throw in any 2nd class into any addresses that already have mail in the frame or have a packet/parcel, everything else is to be stored in a tray at the frame and prepped the next day.
If you are on a heavy day you prep all the manual 2nd class.
You finally tie down and CLEAR all mail from the frame. The only items left in the frame should be D2D and also the tray of manual mail left for the next day.
The main difference being you only prep the second class (blue/yellow) after all 1st class and packets/parcels are thrown in
The paragraph that starts with”Finally you go to the new Blue or Yellow manual IPS frames” really sums up how stupid this all is. So what about house with shared paths? Only the one who has a 1C letter that day gets any 2C as well but the house next door which is literally 6 inches away doesn’t get theirs but you may well walk up that path the next day just to deliver those available items. What about blocks of flats? Yeah let’s walk up 6 flights of stairs to deliver one 1C letter to a property at the top bypassing a dozen other doors that have mail now sitting under the frames waiting till the next day, and what about blocks of flats that have boxes in a row by the main entrance? You enter & deliver to four of them but leave the other two’s mail at the office. Strange lot who come up with these bollocks ideas.
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Mr Rush
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Re: dm26
The more 2C (coincidentals or not) that can go out on the light day, the less heavy the heavy day. It's, uh, almost as if we should just clear every walk every day.
The machine stops.
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jessicarabbit
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Re: dm26
I've thought this from the beginning. If you are on your own 50:50 singleton round or in the singleton van part of a pod. Everyday if you are clever you can manage your own workload for the next day (except Saturday) If you want to do a bit extra on Wednesday you could have an easier Thursday etc obviously all breaks down when you have a day off and the f****r covering you cuts off and doesn't even do his half of your delivery then you are back to catch up mode again.
The key will be to getting good pairings working with you in the pods. If you get hammered by a bulk posting I come and help you do a loop off your 2nd frame. If I get too many tracked you guys pick up the boxes and the consumer collections to help me out.
It has potential.....but like all things in RM it will be ruined by the people who try and manage it with no clue how it works or by the people who don't want to put in a shift.
The key will be to getting good pairings working with you in the pods. If you get hammered by a bulk posting I come and help you do a loop off your 2nd frame. If I get too many tracked you guys pick up the boxes and the consumer collections to help me out.
It has potential.....but like all things in RM it will be ruined by the people who try and manage it with no clue how it works or by the people who don't want to put in a shift.
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qwerty2
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Re: dm26
Just imagine if they decide to have a general election in a few monthsjessicarabbit wrote: ↑27 Jun 2026, 21:06I've thought this from the beginning. If you are on your own 50:50 singleton round or in the singleton van part of a pod. Everyday if you are clever you can manage your own workload for the next day (except Saturday) If you want to do a bit extra on Wednesday you could have an easier Thursday etc obviously all breaks down when you have a day off and the f****r covering your cuts off and doesn't even do his half of your delivery the you are back to catch up mode again.
The key will be to getting good pairings working with you in the pods. If you get hammered by a bulk posting I come and help you do a loop off your 2nd frame. If I get too many tracked you guys pick up the boxes and the consumer collections to help me out.
It has potential.....but like all things in RM it will be ruined by the people who try and manage it with no clue how it works or by the people who don't want to put in a shift.
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TopperGas
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Re: dm26
If a duty's 2c MECH is all held back at the MC then you can't take any of that out on a light day, on the 50% of the duty not due to be delivered?jessicarabbit wrote: ↑27 Jun 2026, 21:06I've thought this from the beginning. If you are on your own 50:50 singleton round or in the singleton van part of a pod. Everyday if you are clever you can manage your own workload for the next day (except Saturday) If you want to do a bit extra on Wednesday you could have an easier Thursday etc obviously all breaks down when you have a day off and the f****r covering you cuts off and doesn't even do his half of your delivery then you are back to catch up mode again.
The key will be to getting good pairings working with you in the pods. If you get hammered by a bulk posting I come and help you do a loop off your 2nd frame. If I get too many tracked you guys pick up the boxes and the consumer collections to help me out.
It has potential.....but like all things in RM it will be ruined by the people who try and manage it with no clue how it works or by the people who don't want to put in a shift.
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SpacePhoenix
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Re: dm26
The only extra 2C that could go out would be the manual letters and flats, the mech will get held by the DTS if it's a non-2C day. I don't think RM have decided yet what will happen with any 2C/DSA that has hit the time limit for the product but where it's a non-2C day.
I think RM should look into feeding data into the DTS algorithm from any flat sorting or packet sorting machines. There must be loads of times where a DP has got a flat or a packet that has been sorted by machine but no mech 1C letter. In them cases it'd allow the mail for them DPs to be released.