Later start times

[Perseus]

What ever happened to the offices at the end of the line from mail centres who were all stood about waiting for an hour with nothing to do in the mornings?
I remember reading about them in here that it ate into their delivery time significantly. Did their start times get pushed even further back due to how much mail was failing as they were losing an hour a day?

[Hitcher]

Just a thought

If you are coming in to at least a days worth of work, surely you would only be waiting for tracked and first class to arrive?
Is it all about overtime being higher before 6am?

I thought the mail centres were holding back the 2nd class stuff until it's due to be delivered so everything that arrives at the delivery office needs to go that day.

[Thommo44]

Just a thought

If you are coming in to at least a days worth of work, surely you would only be waiting for tracked and first class to arrive?
Is it all about overtime being higher before 6am?

I thought the mail centres were holding back the 2nd class stuff until it's due to be delivered so everything that arrives at the delivery office needs to go that day.

With some offices having more than 2 weeks worth of second class not being delivered, everything that arrives will not be delivered until realistic change is made. The change they are implementing, in most cases, will not achieve this. Many people haven’t seen a clear frame in the last year

[Mr Rush]

As someone whos now working on distribution I've been surprised at the times we drop mail off at offices, 75% of the mail we drop are at offices at least an hour before the postie's start. I think the reason is because they'd all be stood about waiting on the last arrivals and they don't want that but they'd definitely be hitting the streets earlier if they would let them

Indeed, the sequenced trays are usually sitting in the unit at 0730 and we don't start till 0830. Almost all of it is in the frames by 0930 before PT arrive yet it'll be another two hours before it (maybe) goes out because the real problem is the packet sorting that goes on forever (till 1015 on Wednesday).

I'll not lay out my full essay on this, I'll just say that in my opinion it's the packets that are dragging the whole service down because the company is only interested in once over the ground (LATs and DPRs excepted). Until all those Tracked make it up the motorway from the distant hub and are painstakinly hand sorted, no-one is going out that door till every hot food outlet has stopped serving breakfast. Before anyone suggests machine sorting, like sequencing that'll have the opposite effect on start times - one machine isn't faster than two dozen people on IPS, merely cheaper.

Is it all about overtime being higher before 6am?

Pushing times back consistently for two decades has handily eliminated a lot of people getting various shift allowances.

Just think, if 2024 hadn't generated the real postcode lottery and instead instituted a uniform change like Network 2007, we'd all be starting at stupid o'clock like those outlying DOs!

[SpacePhoenix]

Just a thought

If you are coming in to at least a days worth of work, surely you would only be waiting for tracked and first class to arrive?
Is it all about overtime being higher before 6am?

I thought the mail centres were holding back the 2nd class stuff until it's due to be delivered so everything that arrives at the delivery office needs to go that day.

At the MC for both manual letters and flats the 1C and 2C is sorted on separate frames and box up in separate trays. Them trays then get sent off to the DOs on the same york. For the mech the 2C that goes out is whatever was released by the DTS.

[TopperGas]

Just a thought

If you are coming in to at least a days worth of work, surely you would only be waiting for tracked and first class to arrive?
Is it all about overtime being higher before 6am?

I thought the mail centres were holding back the 2nd class stuff until it's due to be delivered so everything that arrives at the delivery office needs to go that day.

At the MC for both manual letters and flats the 1C and 2C is sorted on separate frames and box up in separate trays. Them trays then get sent off to the DOs on the same york. For the mech the 2C that goes out is whatever was released by the DTS.

According to MW going forward only the 1c/2c due to be delivered will be released and the 2c not due for delivery will be retained at the MC until the day it's due to be delivered, hence how Manchester South were apparently now clearing every day under DM26? There's also numourous references to clear offices, which won't be the case if the 2c for half the duties is sat in the frames.

[SpacePhoenix]

Just a thought

If you are coming in to at least a days worth of work, surely you would only be waiting for tracked and first class to arrive?
Is it all about overtime being higher before 6am?

I thought the mail centres were holding back the 2nd class stuff until it's due to be delivered so everything that arrives at the delivery office needs to go that day.

At the MC for both manual letters and flats the 1C and 2C is sorted on separate frames and box up in separate trays. Them trays then get sent off to the DOs on the same york. For the mech the 2C that goes out is whatever was released by the DTS.

According to MW going forward only the 1c/2c due to be delivered will be released and the 2c not due for delivery will be retained at the MC until the day it's due to be delivered, hence how Manchester South were apparently now clearing every day under DM26? There's also numourous references to clear offices, which won't be the case if the 2c for half the duties is sat in the frames.

He obviously fails to understand that generally inward MCs sort flats to office level only (certainly MCs with no flat sorting machine). Those with a flat sorting machine probably have each selection covering a number of walks. With the 2C mech if the system doesn't release an item on the day it hits the time limit that item will fail. AFAIK they aren't going to be releasing any items so soon there's going to be loads of DSA and 2C failing all around the country and that's before it gets to DOs and is probably failed anyway.

[Peabrain22]

Dont like later start times..like to get in sharp and out sharp..they want to own you for the FULL day by doing this later vibe.. they want you to have no life ,no family time..

[Chelseablue]

Pretty sick union has agreed for no work life balance now , with late finishes. To think we once started at 5am.

[qwerty2]

Pretty sick union has agreed for no work life balance now , with late finishes. To think we once started at 5am.

PTimer - finished by 9am on a light day and by 12pm on heavy days