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RM welfare of staff !!!

Postal workers discussion forum. Discuss the day to day life in a Blue Shirt.
scotchy1962
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Re: RM welfare of staff !!!

Post by scotchy1962 »

tramssirhc wrote:
27 May 2026, 16:47
Tman wrote:
27 May 2026, 09:49
tramssirhc wrote:
26 May 2026, 21:58
It comes down to one thing - the CWU. Other unions would not accept the working conditions that postal workers have to put up with.
Quick, call the WSWSWSWS and there'll be free iced drinks available for everybody by tomorrow. Always tomorrow..
Workers having been waiting decades for the CWU to make a difference,
Just as a matter of interest...... how long have you and your potential union been around.
Just for future reference you understand.....
tramssirhc
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Re: RM welfare of staff !!!

Post by tramssirhc »

world class male wrote:
26 May 2026, 22:53
tramssirhc wrote:
26 May 2026, 21:58
Agencyoap wrote:
26 May 2026, 19:41
This is a generalisation but comparing National Companies ….
if you work on a building sites or (as I did) work on the highways, you are provided access to:
sun cream/protection
after sun cream
hand creams
free water
We are in the sun for 5-7 hours and the only provision for any of the above are small conical paper 65ml cups at 2 water “stations” shared by 450 staff in the office
It comes down to one thing - the CWU. Other unions would not accept the working conditions that postal workers have to put up with. This is the trade unionism you get when the union is indistinguishable from the industry.
i get your frustration with the union but this isn't their battle, it all comes down to the woke/sue them mentality, folk think they're doing right by some ginger haired kid latherining him with lotion, next there's an alergic reaction and said union gets sued
like most things in life these days, common decency is dead
It absolutely is the CWU's fight. Work should never expose workers to dangerous conditions. Other unions do it and do it successfully. The stance should always be that PPE, such as suncream, should be the last resort after all other means are taken to eliminate the risks.
"The leadership will sabotage the fight and only make the slightest move under fear of powerful working class action" - Des Warren
tramssirhc
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Re: RM welfare of staff !!!

Post by tramssirhc »

scotchy1962 wrote:
27 May 2026, 16:52
tramssirhc wrote:
27 May 2026, 16:47
Tman wrote:
27 May 2026, 09:49
tramssirhc wrote:
26 May 2026, 21:58
It comes down to one thing - the CWU. Other unions would not accept the working conditions that postal workers have to put up with.
Quick, call the WSWSWSWS and there'll be free iced drinks available for everybody by tomorrow. Always tomorrow..
Workers having been waiting decades for the CWU to make a difference,
Just as a matter of interest...... how long have you and your potential union been around.
Just for future reference you understand.....
The WSWS nor the SEP are 'potential' unions. Thats not their purpose or indeed strategy. As for how long I've been around, well there's not a lot I haven't seen or done. I certainly know just how rotten the current version of trade unionism is.
"The leadership will sabotage the fight and only make the slightest move under fear of powerful working class action" - Des Warren
sindba
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Re: RM welfare of staff !!!

Post by sindba »

RM should definitely have a better extreme weather protocol than the usual "take care out there" team brief.

Stating the obvious but we have to work in extreme heat, cold, wind, floods and it's only going to get worse due to the climate crisis.

And the CWU should absolutely be on the case.
Wullie10
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Re: RM welfare of staff !!!

Post by Wullie10 »

Its an outdoor job for most. Sometimes the sun shines Sometimes it rains. It always amazed me grown adults need some higher authority to advice them what to do in such conditions. 😆
Chelseablue
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Re: RM welfare of staff !!!

Post by Chelseablue »

Out later, out longer. Exhaustion was a big thing mentioned with ODM. Union used to be calling all this out before !! Strange days
scoobydo79
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Re: RM welfare of staff !!!

Post by scoobydo79 »

My local council who are pretty useless has even managed to get the binmen in earlier minimise their time in the sunshine during this heatwave.
Tman
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Re: RM welfare of staff !!!

Post by Tman »

tramssirhc wrote:
27 May 2026, 16:47
Workers having been waiting decades for the CWU to make a difference,
And they'll wait until the Second Coming for the WSWSWS to make any impression at all.
world class male
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Re: RM welfare of staff !!!

Post by world class male »

Wullie10 wrote:
27 May 2026, 18:07
Its an outdoor job for most. Sometimes the sun shines Sometimes it rains. It always amazed me grown adults need some higher authority to advice them what to do in such conditions. 😆
this in a nutshell!
surely everybody knows the weather and how to adapt accordingly regards clothing and fluids
and i'm pretty sure if you pop to certain shops that sun lotion is available cheap enough,
i posted earlier, RM used to supply it but got stopped due to H&S matters regarding alergic reactions
if anyone did start to feel unwell whilst out on delivery or wherever you work, you are not going to get into bother for seeking any help even if you cannot carry on
Sean06
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Re: RM welfare of staff !!!

Post by Sean06 »

world class male wrote:
27 May 2026, 20:22
Wullie10 wrote:
27 May 2026, 18:07
Its an outdoor job for most. Sometimes the sun shines Sometimes it rains. It always amazed me grown adults need some higher authority to advice them what to do in such conditions. 😆
this in a nutshell!
surely everybody knows the weather and how to adapt accordingly regards clothing and fluids
and i'm pretty sure if you pop to certain shops that sun lotion is available cheap enough,
i posted earlier, RM used to supply it but got stopped due to H&S matters regarding alergic reactions
if anyone did start to feel unwell whilst out on delivery or wherever you work, you are not going to get into bother for seeking any help even if you cannot carry on
Well said :Applause sometimes it feels like the cwu should hold all there hands while leaving them into work.be good now boys an girls.
smok3y666
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Re: RM welfare of staff !!!

Post by smok3y666 »

Agencyoap wrote:
26 May 2026, 20:56
Some people have allergies - but a lot don’t !
In the 4 1/2 years I’ve been here as agency and contract, there’s not been 1 piece of information/advice given out for safety/dangers of working in the sun - even the sun protector on the new RM caps only come down to just below your ears so the back of your neck is exposed to the sun all day
But then again in that time we’ve never had a fire drill in our office - in fact I’ve never even heard the alarms tested
You been at RM for 4 1/2 years on agency and contract? They shoulkd have set you on perm after 2 years.
TooManyLoops
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Re: RM welfare of staff !!!

Post by TooManyLoops »

Didn't need the sunscreen today, needed a duck coating in that rain and thunderstorms!
Thommo44
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Re: RM welfare of staff !!!

Post by Thommo44 »

Philbag70 wrote:
27 May 2026, 09:11
I have no wish to start an argument and I despise Kretinsky, Simon Thompson, Rickaay and all the other liars that have destroyed RM..... but they're not responsible for making sure staff are hydrated, protected from the sun etc.
Personal responsibility. Look after your own welfare
They are responsible, in law the company has a duty of care to its employees. ‘The employer’ is responsible for providing whatever we need to work safely, our ‘personal responsibility’ is to use the resources provided, for the purpose it was intended .

The MHSWR 1999, made under the Health and Safety at Work etc. Act 1974, places a duty on employers to assess the risks to the health and safety of employees and others affected by their work activities.

Key legal duties include:

Regulation 3: Requires every employer to make a "suitable and sufficient" assessment of the risks to employees and others.
Regulation 5: Requires employers to make appropriate health and safety arrangements based on the outcomes of the risk assessment.
Regulation 7: Requires the appointment of competent persons to assist in undertaking protective and preventive measures.
Regulation 10: Mandates employers to provide comprehensible and relevant information on risks and preventive measures.
Tman
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Re: RM welfare of staff !!!

Post by Tman »

All accurate but hardly applicable in this instance.

"It's a sunny day today guv so do I need to apply some sunscreen, wear a hat, carry a water bottle and take frequent breaks or shall I just act as if it's a normal day?
I need to be told, and I bet HASAWA 1974 has something about this in it."

Next week, "what to do in colder weather"
yellowbelly
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Re: RM welfare of staff !!!

Post by yellowbelly »

Tman wrote:
29 May 2026, 17:42
All accurate but hardly applicable in this instance.

"It's a sunny day today guv so do I need to apply some sunscreen, wear a hat, carry a water bottle and take frequent breaks or shall I just act as if it's a normal day?
I need to be told, and I bet HASAWA 1974 has something about this in it."

Next week, "what to do in colder weather"
Some people don't use the common sense they were supposedly born with.