Whole offices doing the singleton 50/50 thing.

[postslippete]

It must be a challenge though to have fewer staff working Saturdays though? Even with only 1C and tracked on a Saturday duties must still take 80% of the normal time? Are you getting more Saturdays off?

Saturdays can only be lightly staffed if the remaining staff either take more workload or stay out longer. Considering that most of our time is spent delivering the parcels now, if staff don't want to work past their time then it is inevitable that this work will be coming back.

[goldy2007]

Anyone an idea how common this is as I've seen a few now on the 'app that shall not be named'.
Seems like this is the only environment where DM26 will work (singletons) - by making each currently manageable single duty slightly bigger but only doing 50% of all mail each day. Swap round next day.

I’m in an all rural/ deep rural l office of only 10 duties

we are doing the 50/50 thing but we are splitting I think 1 round in 5 on the same 50/50 split

Whose agreed that?


It’s not been agreed that is the proposal when a planner came in couple of weeks ago

What you will or won't do is dependant on the duty structure you pick. Have you got a rep?

We are currently all on wallington week

Yes have a rep

[yubin282]

It must be a challenge though to have fewer staff working Saturdays though? Even with only 1C and tracked on a Saturday duties must still take 80% of the normal time? Are you getting more Saturdays off?

Saturdays can only be lightly staffed if the remaining staff either take more workload or stay out longer. Considering that most of our time is spent delivering the parcels now, if staff don't want to work past their time then it is inevitable that this work will be coming back.

There’s been a suggestion in our office that 1 of the non drivers take turns to go out with the driver on a Saturday .

[Chelseablue]

Its all dependant on staff given less work to do rurals etc, doing the right thing and helping out after there lighter duties. Now we all know how this will pan out,,, .

[Bellaber]

Rural,lighter duties i wish

[tramssirhc]

Anyone an idea how common this is as I've seen a few now on the 'app that shall not be named'.
Seems like this is the only environment where DM26 will work (singletons) - by making each currently manageable single duty slightly bigger but only doing 50% of all mail each day. Swap round next day.

I’m in an all rural/ deep rural l office of only 10 duties

we are doing the 50/50 thing but we are splitting I think 1 round in 5 on the same 50/50 split

Whose agreed that?


It’s not been agreed that is the proposal when a planner came in couple of weeks ago

What you will or won't do is dependant on the duty structure you pick. Have you got a rep?

We are currently all on wallington week

Yes have a rep

The agreement makes no mention of singletons lapsing. Obviously the data will indicate what is possible. Until you pick the duty pattern everything else is opinion not fact. Your office will also need to have a full time / part time ratio, full floater and leave reserve provision. Once all that is agreed then the rep can start to discuss what the day looks like.

[TopperGas]

Rural,lighter duties i wish

How will rurals be "lighter duties" when they still have 100+ tracked to deliver daily plus all the 1c's and also at least double mail on the half of the duty they still have to deliver?

[postslippete]

RM and the CWU have made everything complicated.

RM with its revision of revisions and overtime bans followed by overtime pressure and the CWU defending these reforms whilst also claiming to resist them. I'm not interested in call rates, staffing ratios and route structures but what our actual day is going to f****** look like.

If the intention of putting more duties in means staff actually taking extra from those duties, then how is this any different to lapsing? If we are expected to take out extra work and go over, will we be paid for it? And if not, then what exactly is the incentive for staff to keep absorbing more workload?

[goldy2007]

Anyone an idea how common this is as I've seen a few now on the 'app that shall not be named'.
Seems like this is the only environment where DM26 will work (singletons) - by making each currently manageable single duty slightly bigger but only doing 50% of all mail each day. Swap round next day.

I’m in an all rural/ deep rural l office of only 10 duties

we are doing the 50/50 thing but we are splitting I think 1 round in 5 on the same 50/50 split

Whose agreed that?


It’s not been agreed that is the proposal when a planner came in couple of weeks ago

What you will or won't do is dependant on the duty structure you pick. Have you got a rep?

We are currently all on wallington week

Yes have a rep

The agreement makes no mention of singletons lapsing. Obviously the data will indicate what is possible. Until you pick the duty pattern everything else is opinion not fact. Your office will also need to have a full time / part time ratio, full floater and leave reserve provision. Once all that is agreed then the rep can start to discuss what the day looks like.

Cheers I’ll keep a watching brief

[goldy2007]

Rural,lighter duties i wish

How will rurals be "lighter duties" when they still have 100+ tracked to deliver daily plus all the 1c's and also at least double mail on the half of the duty they still have to deliver?

The killer of rural rounds is call rate ( which is what worries us the most )

1 letter or parcel or 12 letters makes no difference

Miss 3 proper out the way calls save 25 mins

We already on 5 and half hours spans not including break

After the last review when we absorbed the only town rounds we had

And for large parts of the year can’t complete but they pay pressure


So see what they come up with

[tramssirhc]

Rural,lighter duties i wish

How will rurals be "lighter duties" when they still have 100+ tracked to deliver daily plus all the 1c's and also at least double mail on the half of the duty they still have to deliver?

The killer of rural rounds is call rate ( which is what worries us the most )

1 letter or parcel or 12 letters makes no difference

Miss 3 proper out the way calls save 25 mins

We already on 5 and half hours spans not including break

After the last review when we absorbed the only town rounds we had

And for large parts of the year can’t complete but they pay pressure


So see what they come up with

The whole purpose of DM26 is to operate an office properly. Duties have to be able to complete within the duty span. If they cannot they will not signed off. Get involved with the changes. This is your chance to get a fair days work for a fair days pay. Don't leave your rep to do it all. Help them.

[Perseus]

I found some more information on this.

Apparently, 20% of all walks across the country are being turned into 50/50. These will be rural, firms and HCT duties. I can quote the CWU release on this which says: They will be performing less work under DM26 than they are currently and significantly less than under the ODM model.


So, for the rest of the 80% of the staff on delivery, good luck basically.

[postmanplod2026]

all i know regardless of what model is, its not going work like every other revision weve had they all get worse and worse and this one will be no doubt even worse, u all know the sickness rate is well up and new starts dont last so its not possible to work as people will go be off sick and u will be back to doing two even larger duties be right tits up worse than the now

[postmanplod2026]

all i know regardless of what model is, its not going work like every other revision weve had they all get worse and worse and this one will be no doubt even worse, u all know the sickness rate is well up and new starts dont last so its not possible to work as people will go be off sick someone goes off sick and theyll be asking u do 2 own ur own of bigger duties tracks etc ull need to take they 2 even larger duties giving u more 1st class and tracks

[SpacePhoenix]

I found some more information on this.

Apparently, 20% of all walks across the country are being turned into 50/50. These will be rural, firms and HCT duties. I can quote the CWU release on this which says: They will be performing less work under DM26 than they are currently and significantly less than under the ODM model.


So, for the rest of the 80% of the staff on delivery, good luck basically.

What's the point in rurals being 50/50 given the distances they'll have between DPs?