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NON - DRIVER ( ARE OUR DAYS NUMBERED )

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Barnacle
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Re: NON - DRIVER ( ARE OUR DAYS NUMBERED )

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Perseus wrote:
01 Mar 2026, 15:44
Barnacle wrote:
01 Mar 2026, 15:38
Perseus wrote:
01 Mar 2026, 15:12
I think that we will just have to agree to disagree then, as I don't think the company would care in the slightest if morale dropped due to some staff going Mon-Fri, after all it's where the main body of work will be. Anything else over complicates things and is the reason no solution has been found.
I'd appreciate your thoughts on what will transpire rather than what won't.
Also, non-drivers only number a 1000, so making them Monday to Friday is a simple task compared to some delivery offices no longer being fit for purpose.
I heard the number was a fair bit higher than that, perhaps that was incorrect. Nevertheless, at some point Occam's razor principle comes into play, and this looks like one of those occasions.
That’s the number Tony Bouch stated at the most recent gathering - he will only have been referring to non-drivers in delivery.
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Post by ted_e_bear »

Barnacle wrote:
01 Mar 2026, 15:46
Perseus wrote:
01 Mar 2026, 15:44
Barnacle wrote:
01 Mar 2026, 15:38
Perseus wrote:
01 Mar 2026, 15:12
I think that we will just have to agree to disagree then, as I don't think the company would care in the slightest if morale dropped due to some staff going Mon-Fri, after all it's where the main body of work will be. Anything else over complicates things and is the reason no solution has been found.
I'd appreciate your thoughts on what will transpire rather than what won't.
Also, non-drivers only number a 1000, so making them Monday to Friday is a simple task compared to some delivery offices no longer being fit for purpose.
I heard the number was a fair bit higher than that, perhaps that was incorrect. Nevertheless, at some point Occam's razor principle comes into play, and this looks like one of those occasions.
That’s the number Tony Bouch stated at the most recent gathering - he will only have been referring to non-drivers in delivery.
If it's only 1000 then it's pretty much a non issue, yes we know there'll be little point having them in on a Saturday so perhaps offices will have to have a mon-fri section and it's tough s**t if anyone thinks it's unfair, how about offering the mon-fri duties constant walking on various different duties all with multiple days mail to anyone, I know for a fact in our office all the 'bobs' on their piss easy rurals will moan about not getting every sat off when others might do but they sure as s**t won't choose to move onto those duties.
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Post by Mr Rush »

Barnacle wrote:
01 Mar 2026, 15:46
That’s the number Tony Bouch stated at the most recent gathering - he will only have been referring to non-drivers in delivery.
That's a hell of a tumble in less than a year.
Martin Walsh wrote:
05 Apr 2025, 14:56
On Non Drivers there are 8400 non drivers out of 60 thousand Delivery Staff.
The machine stops.
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Post by Acca Dacca »

2024 they said the number was 4000 odd I think that had no license at all and 8000 odd that do but dont drive for RM as not contracted to

The number will be lower now due but I wouldnt imagine its as low as 1000
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Post by qwerty2 »

Barnacle wrote:
01 Mar 2026, 15:46
Perseus wrote:
01 Mar 2026, 15:44
Barnacle wrote:
01 Mar 2026, 15:38
Perseus wrote:
01 Mar 2026, 15:12
I think that we will just have to agree to disagree then, as I don't think the company would care in the slightest if morale dropped due to some staff going Mon-Fri, after all it's where the main body of work will be. Anything else over complicates things and is the reason no solution has been found.
I'd appreciate your thoughts on what will transpire rather than what won't.
Also, non-drivers only number a 1000, so making them Monday to Friday is a simple task compared to some delivery offices no longer being fit for purpose.
I heard the number was a fair bit higher than that, perhaps that was incorrect. Nevertheless, at some point Occam's razor principle comes into play, and this looks like one of those occasions.
That’s the number Tony Bouch stated at the most recent gathering - he will only have been referring to non-drivers in delivery.
He's the same idiot that said we only walk 12,000 steps a day :left:
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Post by Rommagic »

27,000 drivers or more have left in the past year,I wonder why?.
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Post by Perseus »

Rommagic wrote:
01 Mar 2026, 19:23
27,000 drivers or more have left in the past year,I wonder why?.
Because well over 90% of people drive for RM?
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Post by Rommagic »

Nothing 2 do with they soon find out job is bad then leave?.
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Post by Perseus »

Rommagic wrote:
01 Mar 2026, 19:47
Nothing 2 do with they soon find out job is bad then leave?.
Your post just read that they leave because of something to do with driving.
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Post by Edward Hunter »

word on the street at my office, there should be VRs available and RM want sunday staff to work until 6pm
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Post by Sean06 »

Edward Hunter wrote:
01 Mar 2026, 22:41
word on the street at my office, there should be VRs available and RM want sunday staff to work until 6pm
More rumours.
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Post by redlen »

Acca Dacca wrote:
01 Mar 2026, 12:35
redlen wrote:
01 Mar 2026, 11:29
The question that needs asking

What % of staff that do not drive for Royal Mail actually hold a UK driviung licence?

Even those that do not, nothing stopping them from applying for a driving licence
With lessons £40 a shot now and tests booked up months and months in advance I dont think thats fair to say given you dont know everyones circumstances

The question being asked is what % of employees actually have a driving licence and have decided for whatever reason not to drive for Royal Mail
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Post by Acca Dacca »

redlen wrote:
01 Mar 2026, 23:26
Acca Dacca wrote:
01 Mar 2026, 12:35
redlen wrote:
01 Mar 2026, 11:29
The question that needs asking

What % of staff that do not drive for Royal Mail actually hold a UK driviung licence?

Even those that do not, nothing stopping them from applying for a driving licence
With lessons £40 a shot now and tests booked up months and months in advance I dont think thats fair to say given you dont know everyones circumstances

The question being asked is what % of employees actually have a driving licence and have decided for whatever reason not to drive for Royal Mail
Eh?

My response was to your last line ''Even those that do not, nothing stopping them from applying for a driving licence''
If you tolerate this, then your paid break will be next
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Post by Pidleypoo »

redlen wrote:
01 Mar 2026, 23:26
Acca Dacca wrote:
01 Mar 2026, 12:35
redlen wrote:
01 Mar 2026, 11:29
The question that needs asking

What % of staff that do not drive for Royal Mail actually hold a UK driviung licence?

Even those that do not, nothing stopping them from applying for a driving licence
With lessons £40 a shot now and tests booked up months and months in advance I dont think thats fair to say given you dont know everyones circumstances

The question being asked is what % of employees actually have a driving licence and have decided for whatever reason not to drive for Royal Mail
I have a driving license and I was employed way before it was needed to work for Royal Mail.

I have never driven for them and i never will.

I’d rather take vr.
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Post by clashcityrocker »

cubanpete wrote:
01 Mar 2026, 08:51
Stuart Pearce would be in my 6-a-side team all day long.
I wasn't really thinking of professional footballers, more the kid that gets picked last in the playground.
But just as a matter of interest I googled Stuart Pearce and 6 a side. I only found one reference.
He played alongside that well known postman Neil Webb in a Nottingham Forest side who lost in the final of the Soccer Sixes to Charlton.
Peter Shirtliff scored the winning goal.

(I think that was the last time Charlton won anything. Postman might be able to confirm?)
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