DPR drops per Hour

[tramssirhc]

I’m blushing at the compliment, Ted

My take on it is that there can be no set number of drops per hour as there are simply too many factors at play. Are the drops “tight”, eg a sector or cluster, or spread out? Delivering in daylight or at night? Traffic conditions? Weather? Tired and disengaged postie but still an acceptable pace or one raring to go? Day of delivery (as people are more likely to be home on certain days)? Oversized/heavy parcels or a mix of smaller and larger? Rural, suburban or inner city? Etc, Etc.

Achieving even 10 drops an hour on a rural route might be impossible, yet 25, 30 or even more an hour may be easily achievable, even at a sedate pace, on a road with inbuilt parcel boxes (we have a new-build development of “executive homes” where every property has its own parcel box!!). In central London, for example, where I worked for years before relocating, you might spend 20 minutes navigating a one-way system just to make one delivery. Just too many variables.

Ultimately, if the ad-hoc/PRO manifest estimates that it will take, for example, 5 hours, a manager can’t then argue or insist it can be done quicker. In certain cases the postie might in fact argue it will take way longer than the time estimated by the route-planner — it can often be massively out.

yes i 100% agree with this we have a selection of routes some rural some in town, but we start at 4pm for our LAT shift so at this time of year it's all in the dark and management is pushing us out till 10pm with parcels even though I have brought up with them that 9pm is the limit for parcels, but they just default to the new contacts say 10pm, then also expecting our faster people to shave some time off

then our normal DPRs are made up of parcels that the day shift can't get though a letterbox starting at 2pm till 10pm as well, and it is hard to keep up with the drops after the 3rd hour going 110% because of the speed limits all being incorrect (they don't pay me enough to run but some do), its doable, but it is hard to get 165 parcels done in a 8hr shift sometimes

Also, I should add what I mean by a 8hr shift is I clock in get given like 6-8 Yorks and told to scan and number my parcels out of it (basically double handling everything) as I can't load directly info the van because someone on day shift has it, once numbered, and I have all the spare stuff shifted to one side I then need to try to find the missing parcel within that load of stuff thinking it must be my mistake because there is one missing for some reason find out It's not there so just give up then load the van up and head out sometimes 50mins late after my departure time with 6:30 of a route, realise half way though my route after I have made back 20mins that I forgot to do a van check do that deliver my packets come back after my finish time to scan in the retentions or no answers leave at like 22:50 go home eat sleep repeat

The last letter time is 9 pm and that's the agreement. What's your CWU rep doing about all this?

[MylesBolton]

In the process of getting it sorted out, we say 9pm as per the Xmas agreement, management says 10pm based on the fact that they have done 10pm for years before anyone has called them on the BS. So a few of us are just bringing back whatever we have after 9pm and retention scanning them as customers start to get pissed off after 9pm, but a few want the OT and to not piss off management, so stay out anyway.

[Rve83ndxd]

bringing back whatever we have after 9pm and retention scanning them

[tramssirhc]

In the process of getting it sorted out, we say 9pm as per the Xmas agreement, management says 10pm based on the fact that they have done 10pm for years before anyone has called them on the BS. So a few of us are just bringing back whatever we have after 9pm and retention scanning them as customers start to get pissed off after 9pm, but a few want the OT and to not piss off management, so stay out anyway.

Before this latest agreement the last letter time was earlier. Have you been told to scan failed items as retentions?

[MylesBolton]

Have you been told to scan failed items as retentions?

yup been doing this since i started last xmas

[tramssirhc]

Have you been told to scan failed items as retentions?

yup been doing this since i started last xmas

You may have been doing it but we're you instructed to do it?

[SpacePhoenix]

Have you been told to scan failed items as retentions?

yup been doing this since i started last xmas

You may have been doing it but we're you instructed to do it?

Unless it's signed and in writing from the manager, if they get into trouble, they'll just deny ever giving you the instruction and you'll be the one in trouble.

[MylesBolton]

ah, I'm guessing this is why they only phone us instead of messages

Unless it's signed and in writing from the manager, if they get into trouble, they'll just deny ever giving you the instruction and you'll be the one in trouble.

[MylesBolton]

Yes, multiple time on the phone but nothing written.

You may have been doing it but we're you instructed to do it?

[MylesBolton]

Unless it's signed and in writing from the manager, if they get into trouble, they'll just deny ever giving you the instruction and you'll be the one in trouble.

our depot has been doing it for at least a year at this point, so should it have not been picked up already?

[Paul1983]

What's the rules on trying neighbors at that time? I would be less than impressed to have a knock asking to take a neighbors parcel at 9pm! wake up peoples kids and it could become a aggressive situation...I am really not comfortable doing it past about 7pm

[SMS1969]

What's the rules on trying neighbors at that time? I would be less than impressed to have a knock asking to take a neighbors parcel at 9pm! wake up peoples kids and it could become a aggressive situation...I am really not comfortable doing it past about 7pm

There won’t be a rule, but common sense dictates that you don’t do it after a certain time for the very reasons you have stated.

[qwerty2]

What's the rules on trying neighbors at that time? I would be less than impressed to have a knock asking to take a neighbors parcel at 9pm! wake up peoples kids and it could become a aggressive situation...I am really not comfortable doing it past about 7pm

There won’t be a rule, but common sense dictates that you don’t do it after a certain time for the very reasons you have stated.

I wouldn't on a Saturday morning either