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Why Royal Mail could axe stamps and addresses on letters

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Dano boy
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Why Royal Mail could axe stamps and addresses on letters

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Just like dial-up internet access and cassette tapes, addressing an envelope and then putting a stamp on it could soon become a thing of the past, according to the boss of Royal Mail.
Martin Seidenberg has asked a team of experts to develop an app that could revolutionise the sending of letters and parcels. Customers will type the recipient’s address into the app, which then produces a scannable alphanumeric or barcode for printing out and sticking onto any letter or parcel.
It would signal not only the end of writing your mother’s address onto the envelope of her birthday card but also the demise of the stamp, because payment is taken by the app.
“You don’t need a stamp,” he said. “You can basically buy a combination of numbers that you put on the letter and then post it. So that’s doable.”
The cost of a first-class stamp has doubled in four years to £1.70, which Seidenberg said is “in the median” of overseas postage prices. The European average is between £1.33 and £1.73, according to the Royal Mail.
Asked about the recent price increase, Seidenberg, 52, who is from Cologne, Germany, said the company “had to increase the prices” because Royal Mail had to “go everywhere, every day and deliver the mail”.
Since July, postal workers deliver second-class letters every other weekday, rather than from Monday to Saturday, under changes approved by Ofcom, the industry regulator. The changes are expected to save Royal Mail and its parent company, International Distribution Services (IDS), between £250 million and £425 million a year.
After six months with the company — now owned by investor Daniel Kretinsky, known as the “Czech sphinx”, who bought the 500-year-old institution for £3.6 billion earlier this year — Seidenberg admitted that many people love stamps. Royal Mail produces many special editions every year. The current range includes Snoopy, Harry Potter, Monopoly, steam locomotive and Monty Python-themed sets.
“A stamp is something emotional for the people,” Seidenberg said. “Don’t underestimate [that] … they’re used to having stamps. But also it is always connected with, you know, I made the effort to buy a stamp, I made the effort to basically put it on, for example, a Christmas card.”
Seidenberg has also poached a top engineer from Williams Racing, the Formula 1 team, to work on revamping Royal Mail’s 115,000 postboxes, the newest of which carry the King’s cypher. The company has already started a programme to convert them into dedicated parcel drop-off points, topped with solar panels and able to scan labels.
• Royal Mail’s new solar-powered postboxes will have parcel slot
Seidenberg wants to expand the company’s 24,000 delivery lockers, parcel drop-off points and converted postboxes to 45,000 sites in five years’ time. Delivery lockers are popular in urban areas, where shoppers have limited access to safe drop-off points and risk falling victim to “porch pirates” — thieves who steal packages from the doorstep.
An expansion into retail is another important avenue being explored. Last month, Royal Mail announced that 8,000 Collect+ convenience stores would be rebranded as Royal Mail Shops after IDS acquired a 49 per cent stake in the business.
Seidenberg said Royal Mail could “pivot to more of the chains like Sainsbury’s and Tesco” and move into petrol forecourts. Kretinsky owns a 10 per cent stake in Sainsbury’s.
Unlike Rico Back, the previous Royal Mail boss who was criticised for commuting from his home in Switzerland, Seidenberg has relocated to the UK and now lives in southwest London. He has picked Fulham as his English football team.

https://www.thetimes.com/business-money ... -ts7vrhtf2
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Pure gaslighting designed to make workers believe their job is not needed anymore. The Times hates the working class.
"The leadership will sabotage the fight and only make the slightest move under fear of powerful working class action" - Des Warren
yellowbelly
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He's a bit behind the times:

https://stampfree.ai/products/labelfree
SpacePhoenix
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One big flaw is that if the barcode gets damaged, there's no way to manually sort it. When a postie is on their walk, how do they know which letters are for which addresses? What a stupid idea, addresses will always be needed on the item.

I think more likely is that RM will move over to having 2D barcodes on every item, with the destination address encoded into it (like the current 2D barcodes), meaning that every item gets scanned at every step on the way. DOs would get a very detailed breakdown of what each walk has got for the day, down to the level of what is for each loop.
ted_e_bear
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Well I don't know about anyone else but I can't read a barcode by just looking at it :crazy:
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Re: Why Royal Mail could axe stamps and addresses on letters

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Doesn't RM already do something similar with the customer collection labels, many a time I've knocked on a door expecting the customer to pass me a parcel and they've just passed me a damn later as their clearly too lazy to walk, or drive, a few 100 yards to the nearby letterbox.
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SpacePhoenix wrote:
12 Oct 2025, 09:07
One big flaw is that if the barcode gets damaged, there's no way to manually sort it. When a postie is on their walk, how do they know which letters are for which addresses? What a stupid idea, addresses will always be needed on the item.

I think more likely is that RM will move over to having 2D barcodes on every item, with the destination address encoded into it (like the current 2D barcodes), meaning that every item gets scanned at every step on the way. DOs would get a very detailed breakdown of what each walk has got for the day, down to the level of what is for each loop.
It's easy to scan everything just as long as RM build the time to do it into the duty planning. Plus give us all extra batteries, as the PDA's are already struggling on the longer days of the week.

I did wonder why they are retrospectively fitting charging docs to most of our vans when they go into the workshop!
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TopperGas wrote:
12 Oct 2025, 12:50
Plus give us all extra batteries, as the PDA's are already struggling on the longer days of the week.

I did wonder why they are retrospectively fitting charging docs to most of our vans when they go into the workshop!
The PDA batteries in both DOs and MCs are probably getting near to or passed their maximum number of charge cycles.
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Re: Why Royal Mail could axe stamps and addresses on letters

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TopperGas wrote:
12 Oct 2025, 12:50
SpacePhoenix wrote:
12 Oct 2025, 09:07
One big flaw is that if the barcode gets damaged, there's no way to manually sort it. When a postie is on their walk, how do they know which letters are for which addresses? What a stupid idea, addresses will always be needed on the item.

I think more likely is that RM will move over to having 2D barcodes on every item, with the destination address encoded into it (like the current 2D barcodes), meaning that every item gets scanned at every step on the way. DOs would get a very detailed breakdown of what each walk has got for the day, down to the level of what is for each loop.
It's easy to scan everything just as long as RM build the time to do it into the duty planning. Plus give us all extra batteries, as the PDA's are already struggling on the longer days of the week.

I did wonder why they are retrospectively fitting charging docs to most of our vans when they go into the workshop!
It's called using your personal smart phone. We've had charging docks in our vans for over 10 years and I've yet to see one actually wired up for charging lol :left:
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Dano boy wrote:
12 Oct 2025, 07:06
Since July, postal workers deliver second-class letters every other weekday, rather than from Monday to Saturday, under changes approved by Ofcom, the industry regulator. The changes are expected to save Royal Mail and its parent company, International Distribution Services (IDS), between £250 million and £425 million a year.
This isn't journalism - it's a press release because absolutely no research has been done to filter out factual inaccuracies like the above. The ODM hasn't been rolled out.
The machine stops.
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Saw one of these 'stamp free' packets for the first time the other day, had an address on (obviously) and a series of letters/numbers. The sender had written 'postage paid code' with an arrow pointing to the letters/numbers! Ha, Ha. Think it came from RoI IIRC.