Minimum wage to rise

[Sean06]

the union only fight for their own interests never the paying members that was illustrated when they forced us all on strike pretending to strike for posties conditions when, what we were really striking for, was to save area reps from being removed from their positions. Once the company and union sorted that out, the posties got completely shat on and forever will, weakest self serving union ever. If u think the union are fighting for equalising terms and conditions for u new starters ur as gullable as ..., if royal mail decided to up new starters terms and conditions it will have nothing to do with the union but they will take the credit for it as they usually do blowing their own trumpets, reality is union is compeltely powerless

Who actually forced you to go on strike.think that would be illegal.

[Woody84]

That's interesting. As a new starter We get 12.54 so it'll have to increase to at least the minimum but damn if it stays there then its a minimum wage job ... Damn that's bad

We’re now on £13.06

Still a joke though.

Is £13.06 the hourly wage on the new contracts? Pretty sure us “legacy” staff are on over £15 an hour now.

My contract as of 4 weeks ago says 12.54 per hour

We’ve had a pay rise to 13.06.

[Newpoet]

That's interesting. As a new starter We get 12.54 so it'll have to increase to at least the minimum but damn if it stays there then its a minimum wage job ... Damn that's bad

We’re now on £13.06

Still a joke though.

Is £13.06 the hourly wage on the new contracts? Pretty sure us “legacy” staff are on over £15 an hour now.

My contract as of 4 weeks ago says 12.54 per hour

We’ve had a pay rise to 13.06.

Even if you only started 4 weeks ago?

[postmanplod2025]

sean u must be a rep of some sort, the union convinced us postman to go on strike sold us out so area reps could keep their jobs, everything else got shoved through on the posties, not getting paid for sick days disgrace, end of the day the union should be decreasing what members pay each month not increasing for their pitful performances

[Sean06]

sean u must be a rep of some sort, the union convinced us postman to go on strike sold us out so area reps could keep their jobs, everything else got shoved through on the posties, not getting paid for sick days disgrace, end of the day the union should be decreasing what members pay each month not increasing for their pitful performances

No not a rep.they asked you to strike not forced you.

[Woody84]

That's interesting. As a new starter We get 12.54 so it'll have to increase to at least the minimum but damn if it stays there then its a minimum wage job ... Damn that's bad

We’re now on £13.06

Still a joke though.

Is £13.06 the hourly wage on the new contracts? Pretty sure us “legacy” staff are on over £15 an hour now.

My contract as of 4 weeks ago says 12.54 per hour

We’ve had a pay rise to 13.06.

Even if you only started 4 weeks ago?

I’m guessing so yes? Speak with your rep I would, but as far as I’m aware all new contracts have been given a pay increase

[enzio1272]

Not sure the legacy contract are £15 an hour.
I thought they were around the £14 mark but could be wrong though.
Either way the new contract is a joke even on £14 an hour the delivery staff are being shafted for a job that has become increasingly physical and no sign of easing.
The union really should be addressing the physical demands on the staff on delivery, especially as it’s an ageing workforce and no allowance is being made for this .

[funkflex55]

Not sure the legacy contract are £15 an hour.
I thought they were around the £14 mark but could be wrong though.
Either way the new contract is a joke even on £14 an hour the delivery staff are being shafted for a job that has become increasingly physical and no sign of easing.
The union really should be addressing the physical demands on the staff on delivery, especially as it’s an ageing workforce and no allowance is being made for this .

To my calculations old contracts are on £15.05 and hour once you include the D2D supplement

It's even higher when you start factoring in paid breaks but I cannot really be bothered to work that out right now. And yes I think that rate is about as low as what's acceptable accounting for the job physicality and long term damage that can be done due to that.

[mjd24]

Interestingly our hourly rate in 2012 was £10.10, which in todays money is £14.61 BUT we were on a 39 hour week back then so per week our basic was £393.72 which would be £569.47 today, compared to our £556.93.

[ted_e_bear]

Not sure the legacy contract are £15 an hour.
I thought they were around the £14 mark but could be wrong though.
Either way the new contract is a joke even on £14 an hour the delivery staff are being shafted for a job that has become increasingly physical and no sign of easing.
The union really should be addressing the physical demands on the staff on delivery, especially as it’s an ageing workforce and no allowance is being made for this .

To my calculations old contracts are on £15.05 and hour once you include the D2D supplement

It's even higher when you start factoring in paid breaks but I cannot really be bothered to work that out right now. And yes I think that rate is about as low as what's acceptable accounting for the job physicality and long term damage that can be done due to that.

Yep you're right just worked it out, Inc delivery supplement it's £15.05 ph for 37 hrs but as you say we only have to provide just under 34 hours of work for that so it's actually about £16.38 for a flat 37 hour week, unfortunately if you do overtime then that figure gets watered down quickly due to the crap overtime rates that are below regular pay.

[SMS1969]

It’s not bad pay on legacy by any stretch, a year in April it will be over 30k basic.

[Woody84]

It’s not bad pay on legacy by any stretch, a year in April it will be over 30k basic.

Imo it’s a very fair rate of pay.

I’d be over the moon if my contract was equalised to a legacy contract and would happily put up with the s**t that comes with the job but equalisation will never happen.
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[Saturn1]

It’s not bad pay on legacy by any stretch, a year in April it will be over 30k basic.

It's still no better than what we were on back in 2020 allowing for inflation.

Yet enery costs, supermarket costs, housing costs have all sky rocketed in that time. So we're all materially worse off.

Don't see how this is a win.

[Mr Rush]

What do you propose the union do to stop it happening, as nobody is going to support them if they did ever go down the IA route?

The time to do it would have been while the last IA was ongoing in December 2022, though I know that legally it couldn't be appended to the dispute in situ. Was it included when we reballoted in early 2023?

[mjd24]

It’s not bad pay on legacy by any stretch, a year in April it will be over 30k basic.

It's still no better than what we were on back in 2020 allowing for inflation.

Yet enery costs, supermarket costs, housing costs have all sky rocketed in that time. So we're all materially worse off.

Don't see how this is a win.

have we not kept up with inflation?