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"Improving productivity will be key, and that is very likely to mean redundancies and changes to work practices"

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"Improving productivity will be key, and that is very likely to mean redundancies and changes to work practices"

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Kretinsky has spoken of the need to modernise to keep pace with competitors. This means there will have to be significant change – sooner rather than later.

Improving productivity will be key, and that is very likely to mean redundancies and changes to work practices.


https://theconversation.com/royal-mails ... ure-261643
Dano boy
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Rico Back the good friend of Kretsinsky called it last year stating....

“Royal Mail is over-staffed,” said Mr Back, who added that he has not spoken to Mr Křetínský or his team. “There is no question about that. And if you are over-staffed, then there is a need for declining jobs.”

and we all remember how toxic he was ! The deduction in workforce has been ongoing as far back as when he first joined and Back started the ball rolling !

If they keep cutting back or announce loses then I can see a fire and rehire on different T&C's happening

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/20 ... -takeover/
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You have to wonder what DKs view is on the bloated management structure at RM. I mean they are literally glorified "supervisors" being paid ridiculous wages.
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SkiSunday wrote:
29 Jul 2025, 17:01
You have to wonder what DKs view is on the bloated management structure at RM. I mean they are literally glorified "supervisors" being paid ridiculous wages.
Absolutely !!! I heard one shift manager is near 100k a year with his bonuses . Ridiculous money for being a warehouse manager effectively. For what they do they are no doubt well over paid considering workplace coaches are advising or running areas
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The reality is that the USO is being slowly dismantled. It is managed decline and Ofcom's changes is more about cost-saving than service improvement. It's interesting that the article notes the adjusted loss of £348 million because the headline grabbling £1 billion losses in previous years have often included impairment charges. That reinforces the fact that the company's financial picture has been repeatedly skewed to appear worse than what it is to soften up the workforce for major restructuring.

Also, while there are some legally binding commitments, most of these expire in 3-5 years. Things like asset sales, outsourcing and no compulsory redundancies until 2025. Once these expire, expect a faster and more aggressive restructure, especially if the business still isn't profitable :roll: The key question isn't if RM modernises but who benefits from it all when letters are pared down to a shadow of the former service and parcels are transformed into a high efficiency, gig style network. Billionaire investors or workers and the public?
On the face of it, shareholder value is the dumbest idea in the world.
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SkiSunday wrote:
29 Jul 2025, 17:01
You have to wonder what DKs view is on the bloated management structure at RM. I mean they are literally glorified "supervisors" being paid ridiculous wages.
They have persisted for two decades minimum because their uselessness is useful. Many who were paid off in 2021 were brought right back out of retirement to help ram the cursed revisions through.
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Royal Mail have for many years had the worst industrial relations in the UK. This is why Lord Tom Sawyer was asked by the Government back in 2001 to conduct an indepndent IR report and gave a dammning report on how Royal [Mail] Managers operated and accused many of just being "body watchers " too quick to use intimidation to manage rather than using people skills.
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Dano boy wrote:
29 Jul 2025, 16:18
Kretinsky has spoken of the need to modernise to keep pace with competitors. This means there will have to be significant change – sooner rather than later.

Improving productivity will be key, and that is very likely to mean redundancies and changes to work practices.


https://theconversation.com/royal-mails ... ure-261643
That article doesn’t contain a new interview with Kretinsky post purchase.

I’m sure some sort of mission statement announcement will happen at some point.
’You can't just ask customers what they want and then try to give that to them. By the time you get it built, they'll want something new.’
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Yep, 'modernisation'.....It is farcical what they're doing!

Now they're putting solar panels on thousands of post-boxes (the bigger ones) and they'll be drop-off, parcel points for customers! Our manager handed us (collections) a sheet with all the information on today. Every PO I told thought I was taking the piss.

Considering most parcels are rectangular/square shaped, and every larger post-box is circular....;Square pegs in round holes' comes to mind.....Genius.
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Beanyjazz wrote:
29 Jul 2025, 19:44
Yep, 'modernisation'.....It is farcical what they're doing!

Now they're putting solar panels on thousands of post-boxes (the bigger ones) and they'll be drop-off, parcel points for customers! Our manager handed us (collections) a sheet with all the information on today. Every PO I told thought I was taking the piss.

Considering most parcels are rectangular/square shaped, and every larger post-box is circular....;Square pegs in round holes' comes to mind.....Genius.
I didn't think collections emptied post boxes any more.
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Deadly wrote:
29 Jul 2025, 21:20
Beanyjazz wrote:
29 Jul 2025, 19:44
Yep, 'modernisation'.....It is farcical what they're doing!

Now they're putting solar panels on thousands of post-boxes (the bigger ones) and they'll be drop-off, parcel points for customers! Our manager handed us (collections) a sheet with all the information on today. Every PO I told thought I was taking the piss.

Considering most parcels are rectangular/square shaped, and every larger post-box is circular....;Square pegs in round holes' comes to mind.....Genius.
I didn't think collections emptied post boxes any more.
They do the post office boxes whilst they attend the post offices.

Tbh that actually surprises me come to think of it, it goes against the grain of royal mail mentality :chuckle
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postslippete wrote:
29 Jul 2025, 18:47
The reality is that the USO is being slowly dismantled. It is managed decline and Ofcom's changes is more about cost-saving than service improvement. It's interesting that the article notes the adjusted loss of £348 million because the headline grabbling £1 billion losses in previous years have often included impairment charges. That reinforces the fact that the company's financial picture has been repeatedly skewed to appear worse than what it is to soften up the workforce for major restructuring.

Also, while there are some legally binding commitments, most of these expire in 3-5 years. Things like asset sales, outsourcing and no compulsory redundancies until 2025. Once these expire, expect a faster and more aggressive restructure, especially if the business still isn't profitable :roll: The key question isn't if RM modernises but who benefits from it all when letters are pared down to a shadow of the former service and parcels are transformed into a high efficiency, gig style network. Billionaire investors or workers and the public?
Yes I think we are all waiting for the start of the aggressive tactics to eat into our terms and conditions. Just a matter of time you could say really
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Deadly wrote:
29 Jul 2025, 21:20


I didn't think collections emptied post boxes any more.
Just the ones outside post offices.
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Dano boy wrote:
29 Jul 2025, 16:18
Improving productivity will be key, and that is very likely to mean redundancies and changes to work practices.
It's impossible to improve productivity per individual because we already have more work than can be done in paid hours (in the depths of July, no less), so the other side of the equation has to alter instead - reduction of workload to fit the hours. The ODM proposes this only in the sense of reducing certain components of the workload on a given day, ie 2C on alternate days. Thus a reduction becomes an increase. They don't want letters to bloom and they can't poison them fast enough for their liking so the only option is to move them laterally.

As for the unnamed 'changes to working practices'; I hear the ODM, though currently floundering on a sandbar, is still the only game in town as far as the company is concerned.
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Mr Rush wrote:
31 Jul 2025, 17:24
Dano boy wrote:
29 Jul 2025, 16:18
Improving productivity will be key, and that is very likely to mean redundancies and changes to work practices.
It's impossible to improve productivity per individual because we already have more work than can be done in paid hours (in the depths of July, no less), so the other side of the equation has to alter instead - reduction of workload to fit the hours. The ODM proposes this only in the sense of reducing certain components of the workload on a given day, ie 2C on alternate days. Thus a reduction becomes an increase. They don't want letters to bloom and they can't poison them fast enough for their liking so the only option is to move them laterally.

As for the unnamed 'changes to working practices'; I hear the ODM, though currently floundering on a sandbar, is still the only game in town as far as the company is concerned.
Delivery are, and always have been the whipping boys. It looks like they are flogging a dead horse at this point. If they still think savings can be made within the delivery sector of the business, whilst still hemorrhaging money on the rest of the labour costs then RM is a dead duck. But we all know that already...
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Job cuts in the masses will happen in mail centres. That's a definite. Casuals are easy to come by for evening or night shift operations as it fits around their other jobs . Automation increasing over the years and more effectively. Also reckon you'll see a few mail centres close and possibly a 3 rd new hub in the south built as heard the bosses are not wanting a continuous flow of artics or 7.5t lorries travelling from south east or south west to midland hub . I say watch this space as the new hub in the pipeline and legacy workers forced out die to their sickness and pension costs