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Residents says they're 'punished by both sides'
Yorkshire residents are desperate for their Bradford postcodes to be changed to Leeds.
Gain Lane, in Thornbury, crosses the border between the pair of West Yorkshire council districts – but the whole road is covered by a BD3 postcode. A group of homeowners on the Leeds side have been fighting for the postcode change for a variety of reasons.
The homeowners want an LS28 Pudsey postcode as they’ve said they are ‘punished’ by the Royal Mail geographical coding in several different ways. They’ve shared horror stories where the emergency services have been confused, and say they are negatively impacted by the higher insurance rates for Bradford, while still having to pay higher council tax for Leeds.
Residents and councillors say they have pleaded with Royal Mail to change the postcode, signing petitions, and even getting Leeds West and Pudsey MP Chancellor of the Exchequer Rachel Reeves involved – but claim this has fallen on deaf ears.
Grandad Gurvinder Singh Sandhu, 59, spoke about the problems that arise from having a BD postcode, and the frustrating domino effect it’s had on his family and finances.
Gurvinder’s 84-year-old mum broke her arm last year and needed to be taken to hospital after falling over. He says emergency treatment would have been faster if they had a Leeds postcode, and his mum suffered agonising pain without treatment for “14 hours” as a result.
Gurvinder, who works as a dispatch operative for a baking firm, said: “We’re paying tax to Leeds Council but the postcode is BD3 7BN. The big problem is when we call the ambulance, the ambulance crews are most confused.
“The postcode should be LS28, not BD3. It affects our car and house insurance. Everything is a big issue with that as it’s higher in BD than LS. The problem is with the Royal Mail.”
He said the issue also caused a hassle when he was applying to send his three children, now grown up, to local schools Bolton Royd Primary School and Priesthorpe School, since renamed The Co-op Academy Priesthorpe.
'We’re being punished by both sides'
Neighbour Abdul R Butt, 63, who owns Bradford restaurants Rawal Kebab House and China Chopstix, is also furious with the postcode situation. The grandad-of-seven said: “When we do the insurance, and give the postcode, it goes very very high. Whereas, in LS28 it’s much lower. We also pay higher tax so we’re being punished by both sides.
“It makes me feel very bad. Why can’t we get an LS28 postcode? I’m saying to the Royal Mail, can you please do something for us? We’re paying extra money.”
Mother-of-two Diane Isherwood, 60, lives on the Bradford side of the road. Diane said: “It was confusing because when we used to go to the council for school uniform or housing carry-on, we weren’t sure if it came under Bradford or Leeds. Same with the schools. It was confusing then but as the years went by, you understood it.”
BD3 Gain Lane resident Diane Isherwood (Image: Samuel Port)
Conservative Councillor Andrew Carter said: “I am supporting local residents, and they are in contact with Royal Mail. Every possible obstacle has been put in the way of progress. Residents want to be in LS28 and they are right.”
Councillor Peter Carlill, Calverley and Farsley Ward said: "I've been supporting residents in the Thornbury/Pudsey area with this issue for many years, and Leeds West and Pudsey MP Rachel Reeves has also recently written to Royal Mail on their behalf to raise the issue.
“Royal Mail continue to insist that it is not up to them how postcodes may be used by other organisations, but over many years residents have had endless issues with medical records being misdirected, appointments or referrals being delayed or refused, and confusion among agencies as to who should respond.
"Although Royal Mail are not required to make this change, they could solve these very serious issues for our residents, with little or no impact on their operations."
Councillor Craig Timmins, Calverley and Farsley Ward: "As a new Councillor elected in May 2024, I had not been involved in previous campaigns to change this. However, I have spent time speaking with residents both on Gain Lane and the nearby Sunnybanks and Granges estates, listening to their concerns.
“It is clear that there are issues, such as confusion for the emergency services and unfortunately council services. These streets are an important part of our community and should be able to identify that way with their postcode, instead of constantly being frustrated by it."
Royal Mail and Leeds City Council have been approached for comment.
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Fury as Yorkshire residents desperate to change Bradford postcode to Leeds
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It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
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Re: Fury as Yorkshire residents desperate to change Bradford postcode to Leeds
The postcode should be whatever Royal Mail decides it should be
as its for their own purpose when you think about it.
Everything else is consequential
as its for their own purpose when you think about it.
Everything else is consequential
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Re: Fury as Yorkshire residents desperate to change Bradford postcode to Leeds
Did the postcode change after they bought their properties? Were they cheaper to buy originally due to the BD postcode?
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Postcodes are for directing mail and nothing else! Royal Mail has no obligation legal or moral to amend their system to aid third parties appropriating it for use in the execution of critical services.
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Re: Fury as Yorkshire residents desperate to change Bradford postcode to Leeds
RM has been changing postcodes (unwillingly) for years.
There's been several cases in North London where residents have successfully campaigned to be changed to a neighbouring (more exclusive, naturally) postcode.
There's been several cases in North London where residents have successfully campaigned to be changed to a neighbouring (more exclusive, naturally) postcode.
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Re: Fury as Yorkshire residents desperate to change Bradford postcode to Leeds
RM doesn't really own the rights to postcodes now though. Some guy just bought the private business.
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Re: Fury as Yorkshire residents desperate to change Bradford postcode to Leeds
As far as I'm aware the local council delegates post codes, along with council tax brackets.
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Re: Fury as Yorkshire residents desperate to change Bradford postcode to Leeds
In the UK, Royal Mail is the primary entity responsible for issuing and administering postcodes.
They maintain a UK-wide system of postcodes designed to facilitate efficient mail sorting and delivery, and are the sole authority for allocating new postcodes.
Royal Mail manages the Postcode Address File (PAF), a comprehensive database containing every known delivery point and its corresponding postcode, encompassing over 29 million addresses and 1.8 million postcodes. When new streets or properties are created, local councils notify Royal Mail, who then allocates the appropriate postcodes, also assigning different postcodes to buildings with multiple units.
Activation of postcodes for the publicly accessible PAF occurs when a property is complete and ready for mail delivery. Large businesses receiving a high volume of mail can apply for their own unique postcode.
While Royal Mail is the custodian of PAF data, postcode data is also available through other channels like Ordnance Survey's "Code-Point Open." Local councils are responsible for street naming and property numbering within their area, informing Royal Mail of new addresses for postcode allocation, and maintaining a Local Land and Property Gazetteer (LLPG), their definitive list of addresses. It's important to note that local councils do not issue postcodes directly; their role is to provide address information to Royal Mail, which then makes the final decision on postcode allocation based on operational requirements for mail delivery.
They maintain a UK-wide system of postcodes designed to facilitate efficient mail sorting and delivery, and are the sole authority for allocating new postcodes.
Royal Mail manages the Postcode Address File (PAF), a comprehensive database containing every known delivery point and its corresponding postcode, encompassing over 29 million addresses and 1.8 million postcodes. When new streets or properties are created, local councils notify Royal Mail, who then allocates the appropriate postcodes, also assigning different postcodes to buildings with multiple units.
Activation of postcodes for the publicly accessible PAF occurs when a property is complete and ready for mail delivery. Large businesses receiving a high volume of mail can apply for their own unique postcode.
While Royal Mail is the custodian of PAF data, postcode data is also available through other channels like Ordnance Survey's "Code-Point Open." Local councils are responsible for street naming and property numbering within their area, informing Royal Mail of new addresses for postcode allocation, and maintaining a Local Land and Property Gazetteer (LLPG), their definitive list of addresses. It's important to note that local councils do not issue postcodes directly; their role is to provide address information to Royal Mail, which then makes the final decision on postcode allocation based on operational requirements for mail delivery.
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Cheers TBT. So councils only decide on council tax boundaries due to RM.
you learn something new every day.