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Is the end for the Parcelforce brand?

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Is the end for the Parcelforce brand?

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Royal Mail have announced that they are to merge the Royal Mail and Parcelforce delivery networks into a single platform from the 11th of August 2025. We think this is the start of the end for the Parcelforce brand.

This makes one hell of a lot of sense, it means that they can have a single truck delivering parcels to your house, regardless whether it’s a Royal Mail Tracked24 parcel or a 30kg box being delivered by Parcelforce – they can both come out at the same time on the same van.

Royal Mail have said that the terms and conditions and supporting contractual documents for Royal Mail and Parcelforce Worldwide products and services will be merged and cobranded to support this change.

It really doesn’t make much sense for the company to maintain two delivery networks and there are certainly cost saving to be had by merging the two delivery networks. Longer term, expect the Parcelforce brand to quietly disappear as it becomes ever less relevant.

A longer term worry would be that merging Royal Mail and Parcelforce is a first step towards separating the entire parcels business from letters. This would enable Royal Mail to start justifying much higher stamp price increases for their ever declining letter volumes. If all your Tracked parcels and old Parcelforce deliveries are neatly segregated into a Royal Mail parcels division, a letters division for just the USO services would be an ever more expensive drag on the entire business.
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Re: Is the end for the Parcelforce brand?

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TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
14 Jul 2025, 15:05
If all your Tracked parcels and old Parcelforce deliveries are neatly segregated into a Royal Mail parcels division
Parcelforce began life as Royal Mail Parcels and it shall return.
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Mail centres are now losing their work as parcel force come in and take out the office . Evidently parcel force is a franchise. So are we not actually eroding in time the postie that delivers the packets ? What with now shop and box collections . PF will take more and more in time along with the continued reduction of letters . Will this not eventually see a decline in mail centres and eventually work sent to super hubs ? Especially if they centralise eg Second class parcels/HL or outward ?

Is this just another step to mail centre closures ?
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Re: Is the end for the Parcelforce brand?

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Dano boy wrote:
14 Jul 2025, 17:09
Mail centres are now losing their work as parcel force come in and take out the office . Evidently parcel force is a franchise. So are we not actually eroding in time the postie that delivers the packets ? What with now shop and box collections . PF will take more and more in time along with the continued reduction of letters . Will this not eventually see a decline in mail centres and eventually work sent to super hubs ? Especially if they centralise eg Second class parcels/HL or outward ?

Is this just another step to mail centre closures ?
I would say the opposite is true, many items that Parcelforce used to handle now go via Royal Mail Tracked.
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Re: Is the end for the Parcelforce brand?

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milly wrote:
16 Jul 2025, 11:16
Dano boy wrote:
14 Jul 2025, 17:09
Mail centres are now losing their work as parcel force come in and take out the office . Evidently parcel force is a franchise. So are we not actually eroding in time the postie that delivers the packets ? What with now shop and box collections . PF will take more and more in time along with the continued reduction of letters . Will this not eventually see a decline in mail centres and eventually work sent to super hubs ? Especially if they centralise eg Second class parcels/HL or outward ?

Is this just another step to mail centre closures ?
I would say the opposite is true, many items that Parcelforce used to handle now go via Royal Mail Tracked.
Many royal mail tracked are now coming to Parcelforce .
Just taken on 4 new drivers at our Parcelforce depot and more being advertised ,
Been told to expect lots more royal mail stuff to come our way .
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Re: Is the end for the Parcelforce brand?

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77SAMPOST77 wrote:
16 Jul 2025, 11:22
milly wrote:
16 Jul 2025, 11:16
Dano boy wrote:
14 Jul 2025, 17:09
Mail centres are now losing their work as parcel force come in and take out the office . Evidently parcel force is a franchise. So are we not actually eroding in time the postie that delivers the packets ? What with now shop and box collections . PF will take more and more in time along with the continued reduction of letters . Will this not eventually see a decline in mail centres and eventually work sent to super hubs ? Especially if they centralise eg Second class parcels/HL or outward ?

Is this just another step to mail centre closures ?
I would say the opposite is true, many items that Parcelforce used to handle now go via Royal Mail Tracked.
Many royal mail tracked are now coming to Parcelforce .
Just taken on 4 new drivers at our Parcelforce depot and more being advertised ,
Been told to expect lots more royal mail stuff to come our way .
Royal Mail collection drivers collect the Parcelforce items and Parcelforce drivers are delivering Royal Mail items.
Once we merge properly then I would imagine Parcelforce will no longer exist.
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Re: Is the end for the Parcelforce brand?

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milly wrote:
16 Jul 2025, 11:40
77SAMPOST77 wrote:
16 Jul 2025, 11:22
milly wrote:
16 Jul 2025, 11:16
Dano boy wrote:
14 Jul 2025, 17:09
Mail centres are now losing their work as parcel force come in and take out the office . Evidently parcel force is a franchise. So are we not actually eroding in time the postie that delivers the packets ? What with now shop and box collections . PF will take more and more in time along with the continued reduction of letters . Will this not eventually see a decline in mail centres and eventually work sent to super hubs ? Especially if they centralise eg Second class parcels/HL or outward ?

Is this just another step to mail centre closures ?
I would say the opposite is true, many items that Parcelforce used to handle now go via Royal Mail Tracked.
Many royal mail tracked are now coming to Parcelforce .
Just taken on 4 new drivers at our Parcelforce depot and more being advertised ,
Been told to expect lots more royal mail stuff to come our way .
Royal Mail collection drivers collect the Parcelforce items and Parcelforce drivers are delivering Royal Mail items.
Once we merge properly then I would imagine Parcelforce will no longer exist.
Then DPR routes in royal mail will no longer exist , they will just send all parcels to the now Parcelforce depots ,
Parcelforce or whatever it is called in the future (maybe royal mail parcels) is expanding new vans , new drivers .
also been told we may need bigger depots ,
The 1st phase is to take up to 14 million parcels from royal royal mail into Parcelforce they are not spending all this money on Parcelforce depots for nothing .
The Parcelforce brand may disappear but not the depots and drivers they are investing heavily in the Parcelforce depots .
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Re: Is the end for the Parcelforce brand?

Post by SkiSunday »

Collections must be a dying breed then, next quickest way to shed staff by the looks of it. Hopefully the majority of them will seamlessly slide over to delivery. Processing seem to be massively outnumbered by non-driving delivery OPGs too.
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also been told we may need bigger depots ,

they are investing heavily in the Parcelforce depots .
So which is it, you may need bigger depots in the future or are you already getting them?

You can see a time when RM deliver all packets and parcels up to 30kg and PF/RM Parcels every over that weight.
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Re: Is the end for the Parcelforce brand?

Post by SkiSunday »

TopperGas wrote:
16 Jul 2025, 19:03

also been told we may need bigger depots ,

they are investing heavily in the Parcelforce depots .

So which is it, you may need bigger depots in the future or are you already getting them?

You can see a time when RM deliver all packets and parcels up to 30kg and PF/RM Parcels every over that weight.
Parcel Force depots are thriving and have been for 20 year+ same as all the city DOs that have moved or consolidated.
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Re: Is the end for the Parcelforce brand?

Post by 77SAMPOST77 »

TopperGas wrote:
16 Jul 2025, 19:03


also been told we may need bigger depots ,

they are investing heavily in the Parcelforce depots .
So which is it, you may need bigger depots in the future or are you already getting them?

You can see a time when RM deliver all packets and parcels up to 30kg and PF/RM Parcels every over that weight.
by investing in Parcelforce depots I mean more staff and Vans which is happening at the moment ,
and in the future bigger depots may be needed if the volume is there so we have been told .

Hope that clears that up ,

The other line you wrote does not make any sense in how it is written as shown below .

You can see a time when RM deliver all packets and parcels up to 30kg and PF/RM Parcels every over that weight.
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Re: Is the end for the Parcelforce brand?

Post by milly »

I would imagine merging Royal Mail and Parcelforce, plus the rollout of parcel lockers for smaller parcels will lead to thousands of job cuts.
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Re: Is the end for the Parcelforce brand?

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77SAMPOST77 wrote:
16 Jul 2025, 12:42
Royal Mail collection drivers collect the Parcelforce items and Parcelforce drivers are delivering Royal Mail items.
Once we merge properly then I would imagine Parcelforce will no longer exist.
Then DPR routes in royal mail will no longer exist , they will just send all parcels to the now Parcelforce depots ,
Parcelforce or whatever it is called in the future (maybe royal mail parcels) is expanding new vans , new drivers .
also been told we may need bigger depots ,
The 1st phase is to take up to 14 million parcels from royal royal mail into Parcelforce they are not spending all this money on Parcelforce depots for nothing .
The Parcelforce brand may disappear but not the depots and drivers they are investing heavily in the Parcelforce depots .
Wonder if they'll also take all the SDs
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Re: Is the end for the Parcelforce brand?

Post by milly »

SpacePhoenix wrote:
16 Jul 2025, 19:52
77SAMPOST77 wrote:
16 Jul 2025, 12:42
Royal Mail collection drivers collect the Parcelforce items and Parcelforce drivers are delivering Royal Mail items.
Once we merge properly then I would imagine Parcelforce will no longer exist.
Then DPR routes in royal mail will no longer exist , they will just send all parcels to the now Parcelforce depots ,
Parcelforce or whatever it is called in the future (maybe royal mail parcels) is expanding new vans , new drivers .
also been told we may need bigger depots ,
The 1st phase is to take up to 14 million parcels from royal royal mail into Parcelforce they are not spending all this money on Parcelforce depots for nothing .
The Parcelforce brand may disappear but not the depots and drivers they are investing heavily in the Parcelforce depots .
Wonder if they'll also take all the SDs
Sounds like Parcelforce could also deliver all the household deliveries whilst they're at it :Very Happy .
Who knew, only 6500 of them could do so much work.
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Re: Is the end for the Parcelforce brand?

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milly wrote:
16 Jul 2025, 20:09
SpacePhoenix wrote:
16 Jul 2025, 19:52
77SAMPOST77 wrote:
16 Jul 2025, 12:42
Royal Mail collection drivers collect the Parcelforce items and Parcelforce drivers are delivering Royal Mail items.
Once we merge properly then I would imagine Parcelforce will no longer exist.
Then DPR routes in royal mail will no longer exist , they will just send all parcels to the now Parcelforce depots ,
Parcelforce or whatever it is called in the future (maybe royal mail parcels) is expanding new vans , new drivers .
also been told we may need bigger depots ,
The 1st phase is to take up to 14 million parcels from royal royal mail into Parcelforce they are not spending all this money on Parcelforce depots for nothing .
The Parcelforce brand may disappear but not the depots and drivers they are investing heavily in the Parcelforce depots .
Wonder if they'll also take all the SDs
Sounds like Parcelforce could also deliver all the household deliveries whilst they're at it .
Who knew, only 6500 of them could do so much work.
They already do household deliveries , or do you mean letters ,
and where have you got your 6500 figure from , and are you forgetting or do not know that parcelforce has 25% owner drivers .