Trial offices and repicks!!!

[The Postman]

When all this gets rolled out are we having a repick straight away?
I'm just thinking if you have duties A&B then C&D currently with 4 people, it will then go down to 3 people over them same 4 duties making the 4th person spare.

Also would there be an even mix of full timers and part timers on each set because 3 full timers together would give them a better advantage over having 2 full timers and a part timer who doesn't start til 9am when you need them to make some door to doors up!!

Repicks asap have to be done otherwise there will be a lot of senior people kicked off their duty

Surely there will only be a repick in the offices that have had changes to more than 30% of all deliveries across the entire office as per the current agreements that are in place. Also duty holders that have not had any changes made to their deliveries would be exempt from taking part in said repick unless willing as per the Way Forward Agreement, no?

A change to the times and rotation you work is meant to trigger a full repick so everyone in the office would be affected, plus there is no revision before this comes in so duty content wouldnt really change unless some duties are made smaller when the duties are put back in which seems to have happened in nearly all the pilot offices. But if lots of people's duties are going , 4 current duties might only be available for 3 people to pick onto how would there not be a full repick?

Read the agreement and you'll know.

You are in for a shock if you think there wont be a repick

16.4 Where there is a major change as defined above, the key principles for dealing
with the re-sign are:
• employees whose jobs remain unaffected by the major change will retain
them;
• these employees will have the option of applying for any of the jobs involved in
the re-sign resulting from the major change, provided they have completed a
minimum of twelve months on their existing duty (see Section 14 and 15). If
this creates a resultant vacancy that would be filled using the normal
resourcing procedures in Section 14 or 15;
• employees taking part in the re-sign will be given the opportunity to advise of
any personal circumstances, which necessitate a particular duty type or
attendance pattern and, where practical, this will be accommodated. Where
this happens, there will be prior discussion with the local CWU rep;
• the re-sign and all consequential training must be planned into the revision
process;
• specialist jobs that are reselected against are filled using the procedure in
Section 15;
• the re-sign will be run using a national standard procedure based on seniority,
and not take more than four weeks to complete. In very large units,
agreement to an extension to this deadline must be given by the Head of
Performance following local discussion between management and CWU. At the
end of the exercise all jobs and reserve posts must have been signed for.

Unless there's an amendment in the current agreement that I haven't read yet. Here's what I'm referring to.

[The Postman]

When all this gets rolled out are we having a repick straight away?
I'm just thinking if you have duties A&B then C&D currently with 4 people, it will then go down to 3 people over them same 4 duties making the 4th person spare.

Also would there be an even mix of full timers and part timers on each set because 3 full timers together would give them a better advantage over having 2 full timers and a part timer who doesn't start til 9am when you need them to make some door to doors up!!

Repicks asap have to be done otherwise there will be a lot of senior people kicked off their duty

Surely there will only be a repick in the offices that have had changes to more than 30% of all deliveries across the entire office as per the current agreements that are in place. Also duty holders that have not had any changes made to their deliveries would be exempt from taking part in said repick unless willing as per the Way Forward Agreement, no?

A change to the times and rotation you work is meant to trigger a full repick so everyone in the office would be affected, plus there is no revision before this comes in so duty content wouldnt really change unless some duties are made smaller when the duties are put back in which seems to have happened in nearly all the pilot offices. But if lots of people's duties are going , 4 current duties might only be available for 3 people to pick onto how would there not be a full repick?

Read the agreement and you'll know.

You are in for a shock if you think there wont be a repick

16.4 Where there is a major change as defined above, the key principles for dealing
with the re-sign are:
• employees whose jobs remain unaffected by the major change will retain
them;
• these employees will have the option of applying for any of the jobs involved in
the re-sign resulting from the major change, provided they have completed a
minimum of twelve months on their existing duty (see Section 14 and 15). If
this creates a resultant vacancy that would be filled using the normal
resourcing procedures in Section 14 or 15;
• employees taking part in the re-sign will be given the opportunity to advise of
any personal circumstances, which necessitate a particular duty type or
attendance pattern and, where practical, this will be accommodated. Where
this happens, there will be prior discussion with the local CWU rep;
• the re-sign and all consequential training must be planned into the revision
process;
• specialist jobs that are reselected against are filled using the procedure in
Section 15;
• the re-sign will be run using a national standard procedure based on seniority,
and not take more than four weeks to complete. In very large units,
agreement to an extension to this deadline must be given by the Head of
Performance following local discussion between management and CWU. At the
end of the exercise all jobs and reserve posts must have been signed for.

Unless there's an amendment in the current agreement that I haven't read yet. Here's what I'm referring to. And if you look at my first post I wasn't making a statement I was looking for clarification on this.

[Zicomurphy]

Depends how you define job in that context. Even if the walks remain the same your job will be changing and you will be rotating between walks from day to day and maybe even rotating between doing a van share to doing the parcel/1st class duty. I would class that as a job being affected by major change.

[The Postman]

Well, this is why I was looking for clarificatiin. If our hct, rural & firm deliveries aren't changing, does that mean only half the office will be in the repick?