Pay rise %

[milly]

We haven't got Labour shortages hence why most jobs now are minimum wage.
Of course the minimum wage destroys jobs, especially if its set too high, employers will let staff go, reduce hours or automate.
Politicians are in general, greedy and self-serving liars but you seem to trust them to centrally plan everything
As for the Greens, their net zero policies are totally insane, Red Ed has managed to increase our energy prices quite significantly in fact I believe our energy costs are amongst the highest in the world,but no doubt the Greens could make it worse.

So wages are low because there are too many people, and prices are high because of....Net Zero? Not corporate greed, broken markets or political failure - just immigrants and wind turbines.


Let's be clear - we absolutely do have labour shortages in key sectors.


A CBI survey found that 71% of UK businesses reported labour shortages in the past year.

https://www.cbi.org.uk/articles/the-uk- ... r-strain/

The healthcare sector, including nursing and social care, is experiencing serious staffing gaps

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/202 ... -crackdown

Construction, hospitality and tourism are also struggling to recruit, due to a lack of domestic interest

https://info.datumrpo.com/blog/labour-s ... t-affected


So no, the fact that so many jobs are on min wage isn't proof of "too many workers" - it's proof of employer power. Employers don't raise pay unless they're forced to, and our current laws are too weak to make them. Study after study, including the UK's own Low Pay Commission, shows that modest increases to the min wage have little to no impact on employment

https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... port-2024

What they do achieve is reduced in-work poverty and have boosted local economies because when low-paid workers earn more, they actually spend it, and that lifts demand in the real economy

Yes I agree that politicians can be greedy and self serving but your answer seems to be "Let's have no rules, no protections and let Amazon run the show". Genius plan.

Not saying the Greens are perfect but at least they are focussed on building things rather than blaming others or selling off what's left. So if choosing between "insane" ideas like public ownership, fair wages and clean energy over crumbling services, billionaire landlords and sewage in the rivers, then yeah, I'll take the insanity.

Well you're in luck, because Labour are implementing many of your crackpot ideas, such as Net Zero and mass immigration
I never mentioned large corporations running the show, in fact many of them need broken up so competition can thrive, nor did I mention that we ought have no rules or regulations.
You seem to read into a lot of things I've never said.

Bet you’re happy following this weeks official net immigration figurs Milly? Down from 728’000 in 2023 to 431’000 last year! You must be celebrating? And i bet the Mail et al have been shouting it from the rooftops this week? Im away though so havent had chance to see the front pages.

But i bet its all wall to wall coverage of how our official net migration has HALVED.

Am i right? Farage and Tice probably over joyed!! They can move onto all their other policy ideas now

Immigration needs to be reversed, Rachel from accounts will be implementing more taxes to pay for them all.

[Valentina@1]

Keep to topic please

[milly]

Keep to topic please

Sorry, I didn't mean to upset the moderator, please accept my apologies.

[Jefferson Starfish]

Keep to topic please

Well said.
There's far too much political crap on this site these days.

[milly]

Keep to topic please

Well said.
There's far too much political crap on this site these days.

Most Labour fans haven't mentioned politics since July 2024

[mjd24]

Trumpian levels of bluster Milly, ignoring everything ive said and resorting to your hilarious Rachel from accounts comment.

“Immigration needs to be reversed” ~ its literally reversed in the space of 12 months and yet you have no comment to make?

One wonders how you and your ilk would react to a zero net immigration figure? Still not happy no doubt.

[milly]

Trumpian levels of bluster Milly, ignoring everything ive said and resorting to your hilarious Rachel from accounts comment.

“Immigration needs to be reversed” ~ its literally reversed in the space of 12 months and yet you have no comment to make?

One wonders how you and your ilk would react to a zero net immigration figure? Still not happy no doubt.

Stick to the topic before the freespeech Police get on your case.
All I'll say is, Labour will destroy the UK, enjoy the show

[mjd24]

Ok im just gonna go head butt a wall for a while.

[clashcityrocker]

All I'll say is, Labour will destroy the UK, enjoy the show

Did you miss the Tories destroying the UK some years ago then?

[milly]

All I'll say is, Labour will destroy the UK, enjoy the show

Did you miss the Tories destroying the UK some years ago then?

They're the same Party a.k.a The Uniparty.
I know you might find this hard to believe but it is possible to detest both main parties, it's not a binary choice.

[SkiSunday]

All I'll say is, Labour will destroy the UK, enjoy the show

Did you miss the Tories destroying the UK some years ago then?

They're the same Party a.k.a The Uniparty.
I know you might find this hard to believe but it is possible to detest main both parties, it's not a binary choice.

Since you are always politiking on here milly, and I do agree with some of your views, who do you vote for?

[milly]

All I'll say is, Labour will destroy the UK, enjoy the show

Did you miss the Tories destroying the UK some years ago then?

They're the same Party a.k.a The Uniparty.
I know you might find this hard to believe but it is possible to detest main both parties, it's not a binary choice.

Since you are always politiking on here milly, and I do agree with some of your views, who do you vote for?

Probably Reform, but I'm not keen on Farage as he's a narcissist.
Rupert Lowe seems like a good egg.

[clashcityrocker]

Probably Reform,

Now there's a surprise.
One fruitcake voting for another fruitcake.

[SkiSunday]

Probably Reform,

Now there's a surprise.
One fruitcake voting for another fruitcake.

Who do you vote for clashcityrocker? Lol

[milly]

Probably Reform,

Now there's a surprise.
One fruitcake voting for another fruitcake.

You must think many of your colleagues are also fruitcakes then, as Reform have strong support amongst the Working Class.
The Champagne Socialist Labour Party loves to sneer and belittle the Working Class, that's why we've abandoned them.