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In memory of Des Beach: Victimised Royal Mail worker

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Tman
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Re: In memory of Des Beach: Victimised Royal Mail worker

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Please don't write "principled" and PWFRC in the same message.
It's the definition of oxy-moronic.
tramssirhc
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Re: In memory of Des Beach: Victimised Royal Mail worker

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Tman wrote:
06 May 2025, 09:23
Could be that the stress triggered a heart attack, could be that it was unrelated, but it's good to see so many medical pathologists here willing and able to make a snap diagnosis and claim him as their own.
The PWRFC bunch have at last found a martyr in Mr Beach, whether he wanted that accolade or not.
Tman's post is so removed from reality it's bizzare. That's exactly what workers have come to expect from the CWU and it's adherents like Tman. The rank and file deserve no criticism for helping and supporting Des. An undisputable fact is that the CWU abandoned Des. Tman cannot cover up the shame of the CWU and it's sellout leadership.
"The leadership will sabotage the fight and only make the slightest move under fear of powerful working class action" - Des Warren
tramssirhc
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Re: In memory of Des Beach: Victimised Royal Mail worker

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Tman wrote:
06 May 2025, 13:01
Please don't write "principled" and PWFRC in the same message.
It's the definition of oxy-moronic.
The SEP/WSWS and the rank and file can write what they want.
"The leadership will sabotage the fight and only make the slightest move under fear of powerful working class action" - Des Warren
Tman
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Re: In memory of Des Beach: Victimised Royal Mail worker

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tramssirhc wrote:
06 May 2025, 18:53
Tman's post is so removed from reality it's bizzare. That's exactly what workers have come to expect from the CWU and it's adherents like Tman. The rank and file deserve no criticism for helping and supporting Des. An undisputable fact is that the CWU abandoned Des. Tman cannot cover up the shame of the CWU and it's sellout leadership.
Are you a real person?
This sounds very much like an AI ChatBot that's been fed Mao's Little Red Book as reading material.
clashcityrocker
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Re: In memory of Des Beach: Victimised Royal Mail worker

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I too wondered if trams was AI - with a lot of emphasis on the artificial bit and very little emphasis on the intelligence.
The societies of consumption and squandering of material resources are incompatible with the idea of economic growth and a clean planet.
moon71
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Re: In memory of Des Beach: Victimised Royal Mail worker

Post by moon71 »

tramssirhc wrote:
06 May 2025, 18:53
Tman wrote:
06 May 2025, 09:23
Could be that the stress triggered a heart attack, could be that it was unrelated, but it's good to see so many medical pathologists here willing and able to make a snap diagnosis and claim him as their own.
The PWRFC bunch have at last found a martyr in Mr Beach, whether he wanted that accolade or not.
Tman's post is so removed from reality it's bizzare. That's exactly what workers have come to expect from the CWU and it's adherents like Tman. The rank and file deserve no criticism for helping and supporting Des. An undisputable fact is that the CWU abandoned Des. Tman cannot cover up the shame of the CWU and it's sellout leadership.
Easy to say the CWU abandoned Des, I would say the PWRFC pushed him over a cliff.

When will the PWRFC publish the evidence in Des's conduct case meetings, as you seem to know everything about the case?

Just proof of one phonecall/ text message would have won the conduct case, where is it?
tramssirhc
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Re: In memory of Des Beach: Victimised Royal Mail worker

Post by tramssirhc »

moon71 wrote:
10 May 2025, 07:20
tramssirhc wrote:
06 May 2025, 18:53
Tman wrote:
06 May 2025, 09:23
Could be that the stress triggered a heart attack, could be that it was unrelated, but it's good to see so many medical pathologists here willing and able to make a snap diagnosis and claim him as their own.
The PWRFC bunch have at last found a martyr in Mr Beach, whether he wanted that accolade or not.
Tman's post is so removed from reality it's bizzare. That's exactly what workers have come to expect from the CWU and it's adherents like Tman. The rank and file deserve no criticism for helping and supporting Des. An undisputable fact is that the CWU abandoned Des. Tman cannot cover up the shame of the CWU and it's sellout leadership.
Easy to say the CWU abandoned Des, I would say the PWRFC pushed him over a cliff.

When will the PWRFC publish the evidence in Des's conduct case meetings, as you seem to know everything about the case?

Just proof of one phonecall/ text message would have won the conduct case, where is it?
Here we have the CWU allowing a member to drag it's reputation into the gutter. Moon71 should be absolutely ashamed to be using a workers death to pursue the CWU's aims. Shame on Moon71.
"The leadership will sabotage the fight and only make the slightest move under fear of powerful working class action" - Des Warren
tramssirhc
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Re: In memory of Des Beach: Victimised Royal Mail worker

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Tman wrote:
09 May 2025, 10:03
tramssirhc wrote:
06 May 2025, 18:53
Tman's post is so removed from reality it's bizzare. That's exactly what workers have come to expect from the CWU and it's adherents like Tman. The rank and file deserve no criticism for helping and supporting Des. An undisputable fact is that the CWU abandoned Des. Tman cannot cover up the shame of the CWU and it's sellout leadership.
Are you a real person?
This sounds very much like an AI ChatBot that's been fed Mao's Little Red Book as reading material.
Is this the best the CWU can do? Unleash adherents like Tman on the rank and file working class. Absolutely shameless.
"The leadership will sabotage the fight and only make the slightest move under fear of powerful working class action" - Des Warren
tramssirhc
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Re: In memory of Des Beach: Victimised Royal Mail worker

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clashcityrocker wrote:
09 May 2025, 15:41
I too wondered if trams was AI - with a lot of emphasis on the artificial bit and very little emphasis on the intelligence.
The CWU has no answers other than letting loose adherents like clashcityrocker. Shameless.
"The leadership will sabotage the fight and only make the slightest move under fear of powerful working class action" - Des Warren