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Singleton Duties - Ripe for Franchising?

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Singleton Duties - Ripe for Franchising?

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Under the CWU's profit driven delivery method changes singleton duties are subject to very little change. In the US rural duties are being targeted for privitisation under Musk's attack on the working class. The postal industry is worldwide and where one employer goes it's a given others follow.

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2025/0 ... s-a22.html
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tramssirhc wrote:
22 Apr 2025, 20:05
Under the CWU's profit driven delivery method changes singleton duties are subject to very little change. In the US rural duties are being targeted for privitisation under Musk's attack on the working class. The postal industry is worldwide and where one employer goes it's a given others follow.

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2025/0 ... s-a22.html
I'm not reading that article, but in my opinion delivery will end up as self employed drivers with a given 'route' just like Amazon. IE commit to deliver, phone as PDA, no uniform, central sorting unit, rent a van or use own vehicle etc etc
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Londonsburning wrote:
23 Apr 2025, 17:58
tramssirhc wrote:
22 Apr 2025, 20:05
Under the CWU's profit driven delivery method changes singleton duties are subject to very little change. In the US rural duties are being targeted for privitisation under Musk's attack on the working class. The postal industry is worldwide and where one employer goes it's a given others follow.

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2025/0 ... s-a22.html
I'm not reading that article, but in my opinion delivery will end up as self employed drivers with a given 'route' just like Amazon. IE commit to deliver, phone as PDA, no uniform, central sorting unit, rent a van or use own vehicle etc etc
It's worth reading because the rural duties are being targeted by Musk for privitisation. The city duties are not.
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tramssirhc wrote:
23 Apr 2025, 18:46
Londonsburning wrote:
23 Apr 2025, 17:58
tramssirhc wrote:
22 Apr 2025, 20:05
Under the CWU's profit driven delivery method changes singleton duties are subject to very little change. In the US rural duties are being targeted for privitisation under Musk's attack on the working class. The postal industry is worldwide and where one employer goes it's a given others follow.

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2025/0 ... s-a22.html
I'm not reading that article, but in my opinion delivery will end up as self employed drivers with a given 'route' just like Amazon. IE commit to deliver, phone as PDA, no uniform, central sorting unit, rent a van or use own vehicle etc etc
It's worth reading because the rural duties are being targeted by Musk for privitisation. The city duties are not.
City duties are already being targeted by RM and have been for over a decade now.
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tramssirhc wrote:
23 Apr 2025, 18:46
Londonsburning wrote:
23 Apr 2025, 17:58
tramssirhc wrote:
22 Apr 2025, 20:05
Under the CWU's profit driven delivery method changes singleton duties are subject to very little change. In the US rural duties are being targeted for privitisation under Musk's attack on the working class. The postal industry is worldwide and where one employer goes it's a given others follow.

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2025/0 ... s-a22.html
I'm not reading that article, but in my opinion delivery will end up as self employed drivers with a given 'route' just like Amazon. IE commit to deliver, phone as PDA, no uniform, central sorting unit, rent a van or use own vehicle etc etc
It's worth reading because the rural duties are being targeted by Musk for privitisation. The city duties are not.
I doubt there would be any profit in a rural franchise if you are paid per parcel and your rural route is a 80 or 90km radius.? 🤔
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Probably franchised out and XXX mile rurals handed back to the taxpayer.
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Londonsburning wrote:
27 Apr 2025, 14:26
Probably franchised out and XXX mile rurals handed back to the taxpayer.
What makes you think they could be handed back to the taxpayer?
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Jefferson Starfish wrote:
27 Apr 2025, 15:01
Londonsburning wrote:
27 Apr 2025, 14:26
Probably franchised out and XXX mile rurals handed back to the taxpayer.
What makes you think they could be handed back to the taxpayer?
Mail delivery is a public service in this country. How else would it the service be upheld for the general public if RM says it is unsustainable? That is how these things work.

Do you think this Country runs it's services on fresh air? :left:
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And do you think that public service has a future?

Sooner or later, mail volumes will reduce enough to render it redundant and we'll go the same way as Denmark.

RM/IDS will become a parcel/packet company just like the others. :cuppa
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Jefferson Starfish wrote:
27 Apr 2025, 16:42
And do you think that public service has a future?

Sooner or later, mail volumes will reduce enough to render it redundant and we'll go the same way as Denmark.

RM/IDS will become a parcel/packet company just like the others. :cuppa
It's a USO. If it fails, which it is being set up to, it'll be handed back to the government to deal with. IE the tax payer which is exactly what I said in the first place... :crazy: try educating yourself.
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Londonsburning wrote:
27 Apr 2025, 18:29
Jefferson Starfish wrote:
27 Apr 2025, 16:42
And do you think that public service has a future?

Sooner or later, mail volumes will reduce enough to render it redundant and we'll go the same way as Denmark.

RM/IDS will become a parcel/packet company just like the others. :cuppa
It's a USO. If it fails, which it is being set up to, it'll be handed back to the government to deal with. IE the tax payer which is exactly what I said in the first place... :crazy: try educating yourself.
Lol🤣
The USO will be diluted every few years until it's not worth bothering with.
The government will not renationalise the Royal Mail!
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Jefferson Starfish wrote:
27 Apr 2025, 18:56
Londonsburning wrote:
27 Apr 2025, 18:29
Jefferson Starfish wrote:
27 Apr 2025, 16:42
And do you think that public service has a future?

Sooner or later, mail volumes will reduce enough to render it redundant and we'll go the same way as Denmark.

RM/IDS will become a parcel/packet company just like the others. :cuppa
It's a USO. If it fails, which it is being set up to, it'll be handed back to the government to deal with. IE the tax payer which is exactly what I said in the first place... :crazy: try educating yourself.
Lol🤣
The USO will be diluted every few years until it's not worth bothering with.
The government will not renationalise the Royal Mail!
Hilarious... :d'oh!
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Londonsburning wrote:
27 Apr 2025, 19:25
Jefferson Starfish wrote:
27 Apr 2025, 18:56
Londonsburning wrote:
27 Apr 2025, 18:29
Jefferson Starfish wrote:
27 Apr 2025, 16:42
And do you think that public service has a future?

Sooner or later, mail volumes will reduce enough to render it redundant and we'll go the same way as Denmark.

RM/IDS will become a parcel/packet company just like the others. :cuppa
It's a USO. If it fails, which it is being set up to, it'll be handed back to the government to deal with. IE the tax payer which is exactly what I said in the first place... :crazy: try educating yourself.
Lol🤣
The USO will be diluted every few years until it's not worth bothering with.
The government will not renationalise the Royal Mail!
Hilarious... :d'oh!
Yes, the fact that you think you're correct and nobody else is entitled to an opinion, is hilarious.

I really don't understand why trolls like you are allowed on this forum! :hmmmm
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Jefferson Starfish wrote:
27 Apr 2025, 16:42
And do you think that public service has a future?

Sooner or later, mail volumes will reduce enough to render it redundant and we'll go the same way as Denmark.

RM/IDS will become a parcel/packet company just like the others. :cuppa
Bit confused with the Denmark thing, I've read a private company is taking over the letters business with the intention to expand it :hmmmm
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pieoftheday wrote:
30 Apr 2025, 18:04
Jefferson Starfish wrote:
27 Apr 2025, 16:42
And do you think that public service has a future?

Sooner or later, mail volumes will reduce enough to render it redundant and we'll go the same way as Denmark.

RM/IDS will become a parcel/packet company just like the others. :cuppa
Bit confused with the Denmark thing, I've read a private company is taking over the letters business with the intention to expand it :hmmmm
The Danes have a very digitised system for sending their post and physical mail that the state run service handles has declined by 90%.

There are other companies they can use to send letters, but they probably won't have the infrastructure and will probably cost more.
I doubt there's a massive amount of business for them to take over.

There's 110 million letters a year sent in Denmark compared to 6.6 billion in the UK and the UK is years behind in terms of technology, but the numbers here are falling and will only carry on doing so.
In my opinion, sooner or later, it won't be either practical or cost effective for this country to offer a postal service as we've always known it.