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CWU Live - Pilots update - Tony Bouch

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Re: CWU Live - Pilots update - Tony Bouch

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Londonsburning wrote:
27 Apr 2025, 13:29
If anyone within the "decision making employees" at RM and CWU had any sort of integrity left, we wouldn't be in this situation. RM is nothing but a vehicle for income inequality for the very people who 'deliver the final mile.'
Delivery jobs are going to be obsolete within RM in the next 5 years, everything will be sold off for a quick profit to the detriment of Delivery T&C's and the CWU are enablers. The deception and lies from the CWU leadership is shocking and your charity, paying for their lifestyles is daylight robbery.
It'll be MC jobs that become obsolete via increased automation and replacement with casuals/agency. If RM decided to go down the route of axing letter deliveries then delivery staff would probably end up becoming owner/drivers not obsolete. I can see logistics being franchised out within the next 5-10 years, with all artic runs being taken over.

It doesn't matter if you're in a MC or a DO, ALL our jobs are going to be completely unrecognisable within the next 5-10 years. None of us know if the new owners will make massive changes to many or all aspects of the business.
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SpacePhoenix wrote:
27 Apr 2025, 13:48
Londonsburning wrote:
27 Apr 2025, 13:29
If anyone within the "decision making employees" at RM and CWU had any sort of integrity left, we wouldn't be in this situation. RM is nothing but a vehicle for income inequality for the very people who 'deliver the final mile.'
Delivery jobs are going to be obsolete within RM in the next 5 years, everything will be sold off for a quick profit to the detriment of Delivery T&C's and the CWU are enablers. The deception and lies from the CWU leadership is shocking and your charity, paying for their lifestyles is daylight robbery.
It'll be MC jobs that become obsolete via increased automation and replacement with casuals/agency. If RM decided to go down the route of axing letter deliveries then delivery staff would probably end up becoming owner/drivers not obsolete. I can see logistics being franchised out within the next 5-10 years, with all artic runs being taken over.

It doesn't matter if you're in a MC or a DO, ALL our jobs are going to be completely unrecognisable within the next 5-10 years. None of us know if the new owners will make massive changes to many or all aspects of the business.
"Owner/driver" would make a delivery job obsolete. Put your thinking cap on. So called casual/agency or Angard as we all know them, are still employed by RM pal :crazy: :chuckle
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People working in processing who think they are 'special' because they have been 'trained' to sit at a machine and unblock it a hundred times a shift for £16 an hour are delusional. Every other factory worker gets paid minimum wage lol :crazy:
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Londonsburning wrote:
27 Apr 2025, 14:12
SpacePhoenix wrote:
27 Apr 2025, 13:48
Londonsburning wrote:
27 Apr 2025, 13:29
If anyone within the "decision making employees" at RM and CWU had any sort of integrity left, we wouldn't be in this situation. RM is nothing but a vehicle for income inequality for the very people who 'deliver the final mile.'
Delivery jobs are going to be obsolete within RM in the next 5 years, everything will be sold off for a quick profit to the detriment of Delivery T&C's and the CWU are enablers. The deception and lies from the CWU leadership is shocking and your charity, paying for their lifestyles is daylight robbery.
It'll be MC jobs that become obsolete via increased automation and replacement with casuals/agency. If RM decided to go down the route of axing letter deliveries then delivery staff would probably end up becoming owner/drivers not obsolete. I can see logistics being franchised out within the next 5-10 years, with all artic runs being taken over.

It doesn't matter if you're in a MC or a DO, ALL our jobs are going to be completely unrecognisable within the next 5-10 years. None of us know if the new owners will make massive changes to many or all aspects of the business.
"Owner/driver" would make a delivery job obsolete. Put your thinking cap on. So called casual/agency or Angard as we all know them, are still employed by RM pal :crazy: :chuckle
Yeah I wouldn't be surprised if some sort of self employed parcel job ever became a reality but I can't see that for the delivery of mail and d2ds unless I'm missing something
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Re: CWU Live - Pilots update - Tony Bouch

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Londonsburning wrote:
27 Apr 2025, 14:12
SpacePhoenix wrote:
27 Apr 2025, 13:48
Londonsburning wrote:
27 Apr 2025, 13:29
If anyone within the "decision making employees" at RM and CWU had any sort of integrity left, we wouldn't be in this situation. RM is nothing but a vehicle for income inequality for the very people who 'deliver the final mile.'
Delivery jobs are going to be obsolete within RM in the next 5 years, everything will be sold off for a quick profit to the detriment of Delivery T&C's and the CWU are enablers. The deception and lies from the CWU leadership is shocking and your charity, paying for their lifestyles is daylight robbery.
It'll be MC jobs that become obsolete via increased automation and replacement with casuals/agency. If RM decided to go down the route of axing letter deliveries then delivery staff would probably end up becoming owner/drivers not obsolete. I can see logistics being franchised out within the next 5-10 years, with all artic runs being taken over.

It doesn't matter if you're in a MC or a DO, ALL our jobs are going to be completely unrecognisable within the next 5-10 years. None of us know if the new owners will make massive changes to many or all aspects of the business.
"Owner/driver" would make a delivery job obsolete. Put your thinking cap on. So called casual/agency or Angard as we all know them, are still employed by RM pal :crazy: :chuckle
Delivery atm in RM is letters, D2D and parcels. They can't do all that with owner/drivers. Angard isn't owned by RM, it's owned by IDS, the parent company of RM. You might want to put your own thinking cap on. :cuppa
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:d'oh!
SpacePhoenix wrote:
27 Apr 2025, 14:39
Londonsburning wrote:
27 Apr 2025, 14:12
SpacePhoenix wrote:
27 Apr 2025, 13:48
Londonsburning wrote:
27 Apr 2025, 13:29
If anyone within the "decision making employees" at RM and CWU had any sort of integrity left, we wouldn't be in this situation. RM is nothing but a vehicle for income inequality for the very people who 'deliver the final mile.'
Delivery jobs are going to be obsolete within RM in the next 5 years, everything will be sold off for a quick profit to the detriment of Delivery T&C's and the CWU are enablers. The deception and lies from the CWU leadership is shocking and your charity, paying for their lifestyles is daylight robbery.
It'll be MC jobs that become obsolete via increased automation and replacement with casuals/agency. If RM decided to go down the route of axing letter deliveries then delivery staff would probably end up becoming owner/drivers not obsolete. I can see logistics being franchised out within the next 5-10 years, with all artic runs being taken over.

It doesn't matter if you're in a MC or a DO, ALL our jobs are going to be completely unrecognisable within the next 5-10 years. None of us know if the new owners will make massive changes to many or all aspects of the business.
"Owner/driver" would make a delivery job obsolete. Put your thinking cap on. So called casual/agency or Angard as we all know them, are still employed by RM pal :crazy: :chuckle
Delivery atm in RM is letters, D2D and parcels. They can't do all that with owner/drivers. Angard isn't owned by RM, it's owned by IDS, the parent company of RM. You might want to put your own thinking cap on. :cuppa
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What an absolute clown. :thumbup
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Londonsburning wrote:
27 Apr 2025, 14:47
What an absolute clown. :thumbup
Want to known what a clown looks like, just look in the mirror :cuppa
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SpacePhoenix wrote:
27 Apr 2025, 15:08
Londonsburning wrote:
27 Apr 2025, 14:47
What an absolute clown. :thumbup
Want to known what a clown looks like, just look in the mirror :cuppa
Like I said, you lot on processing should be papped onto delivery lol. Give the real workers a chance of a decent retirement. :cuppa :wave
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Now that i am left allow me to make a observation, fighting amongst yourselves over the future isn't the way to go. Regardless of how the company is reformed the workers shouldn't all start fighting for each others jobs.
Stay together as a workforce no matter how it goes and don't get sucked into infighting, which is how Simon got you all.
The future is what it is and if it's going to go pear shaped, fighting won't change that.
Everything comes to a end eventually but i don't think it's quite there yet with RM.
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scotchy1962 wrote:
27 Apr 2025, 17:07
Now that i am left allow me to make a observation, fighting amongst yourselves over the future isn't the way to go. Regardless of how the company is reformed the workers shouldn't all start fighting for each others jobs.
Stay together as a workforce no matter how it goes and don't get sucked into infighting, which is how Simon got you all.
The future is what it is and if it's going to go pear shaped, fighting won't change that.
Everything comes to a end eventually but i don't think it's quite there yet with RM.
Surely you agree that the older generation of Delivery posties should be offered indoor duties in the twilight years of their careers Scotchy? The few non delivery people who insist on posting on here daily have absolutely no idea what it's like in a DO.
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The company have sleepwalked into this problem and it's not just late 50's early 60's guys who need 'looked after' after pounding the streets for decades.
Years ago there would be something to look forward to after 20 years working on the job - a nice rural duty, indoor work, a 250-300 house walking duty.
Now we have the core staff aged 40-50, decades in the job and the job is about to get even more physical.
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I agree.
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Re: CWU Live - Pilots update - Tony Bouch

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Londonsburning wrote:
27 Apr 2025, 17:32
scotchy1962 wrote:
27 Apr 2025, 17:07
Now that i am left allow me to make a observation, fighting amongst yourselves over the future isn't the way to go. Regardless of how the company is reformed the workers shouldn't all start fighting for each others jobs.
Stay together as a workforce no matter how it goes and don't get sucked into infighting, which is how Simon got you all.
The future is what it is and if it's going to go pear shaped, fighting won't change that.
Everything comes to a end eventually but i don't think it's quite there yet with RM.
Surely you agree that the older generation of Delivery posties should be offered indoor duties in the twilight years of their careers Scotchy? The few non delivery people who insist on posting on here daily have absolutely no idea what it's like in a DO.
Understand what you are saying London, but it still stands to reason that infighting will only weaken any position.
Yes delivery was for me a nightmare at the end, but there's older than me still there and showing little interest in winding down so maybe it's just me.
We are all different and perhaps the offer of something less physically demanding is the way to go, but there's nothing to say that in the future, or even sooner, the indoor job becomes unmanageable too for some.
Amazon here we come.
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Fingers crossed mate :thumbup