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Seasonal variation of hours
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kazardaimenu
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Re: Seasonal variation of hours
There will be people who joined in November forced to work longer hours last year. Those people will need some sort of compensation now that this daft scheme has been scrapped. The union will probably look the other way.
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pieoftheday
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Re: Seasonal variation of hours
Apparently it's only suspended for 2025kazardaimenu wrote: ↑20 Apr 2025, 07:30There will be people who joined in November forced to work longer hours last year. Those people will need some sort of compensation now that this daft scheme has been scrapped. The union will probably look the other way.
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funkflex55
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Re: Seasonal variation of hours
Even if it returns in 2026, those owed hours will do a low season like the rest of us followed by a high season and then they'll be owed hours again. They're not getting it back without a separate intervention of payment or time back. Our office and probably many others had all those that flexed up to FT for peak doing 39 hours. Probably loads of staff owed hours. RM employs managers with the maths ability of 5 year olds, then again in these situations it pays off well for them.
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Sean06
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Re: Seasonal variation of hours
Has martin walsh not already explained in this thread NOBODY IS OWED hours.funkflex55 wrote: ↑20 Apr 2025, 11:22Even if it returns in 2026, those owed hours will do a low season like the rest of us followed by a high season and then they'll be owed hours again. They're not getting it back without a separate intervention of payment or time back. Our office and probably many others had all those that flexed up to FT for peak doing 39 hours. Probably loads of staff owed hours. RM employs managers with the maths ability of 5 year olds, then again in these situations it pays off well for them.
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ted_e_bear
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Re: Seasonal variation of hours
If you started last year after the summer low season then you'd be subject to the 5 weeks high season from November to mid December meaning you're owed time, ok probably quite a small percentage of employees but still.Sean06 wrote: ↑20 Apr 2025, 14:57Has martin walsh not already explained in this thread NOBODY IS OWED hours.funkflex55 wrote: ↑20 Apr 2025, 11:22Even if it returns in 2026, those owed hours will do a low season like the rest of us followed by a high season and then they'll be owed hours again. They're not getting it back without a separate intervention of payment or time back. Our office and probably many others had all those that flexed up to FT for peak doing 39 hours. Probably loads of staff owed hours. RM employs managers with the maths ability of 5 year olds, then again in these situations it pays off well for them.
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Sean06
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Re: Seasonal variation of hours
Just saying what m walsh said.ted_e_bear wrote: ↑20 Apr 2025, 15:31If you started last year after the summer low season then you'd be subject to the 5 weeks high season from November to mid December meaning you're owed time, ok probably quite a small percentage of employees but still.Sean06 wrote: ↑20 Apr 2025, 14:57Has martin walsh not already explained in this thread NOBODY IS OWED hours.funkflex55 wrote: ↑20 Apr 2025, 11:22Even if it returns in 2026, those owed hours will do a low season like the rest of us followed by a high season and then they'll be owed hours again. They're not getting it back without a separate intervention of payment or time back. Our office and probably many others had all those that flexed up to FT for peak doing 39 hours. Probably loads of staff owed hours. RM employs managers with the maths ability of 5 year olds, then again in these situations it pays off well for them.
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ted_e_bear
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Re: Seasonal variation of hours
And you do realise it was in fact incorrect? It's blatantly obvious that it wasn't actually trueSean06 wrote: ↑20 Apr 2025, 18:36Just saying what m walsh said.ted_e_bear wrote: ↑20 Apr 2025, 15:31If you started last year after the summer low season then you'd be subject to the 5 weeks high season from November to mid December meaning you're owed time, ok probably quite a small percentage of employees but still.Sean06 wrote: ↑20 Apr 2025, 14:57Has martin walsh not already explained in this thread NOBODY IS OWED hours.funkflex55 wrote: ↑20 Apr 2025, 11:22Even if it returns in 2026, those owed hours will do a low season like the rest of us followed by a high season and then they'll be owed hours again. They're not getting it back without a separate intervention of payment or time back. Our office and probably many others had all those that flexed up to FT for peak doing 39 hours. Probably loads of staff owed hours. RM employs managers with the maths ability of 5 year olds, then again in these situations it pays off well for them.
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funkflex55
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Re: Seasonal variation of hours
I think M Walsh also said they want a no strings, inflation busting pay deal. We all know how that went down. 
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Sean06
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Re: Seasonal variation of hours
Well thats up to you to prove to him that you are owed hours not me just quoting him??ted_e_bear wrote: ↑20 Apr 2025, 18:51And you do realise it was in fact incorrect? It's blatantly obvious that it wasn't actually trueSean06 wrote: ↑20 Apr 2025, 18:36Just saying what m walsh said.ted_e_bear wrote: ↑20 Apr 2025, 15:31If you started last year after the summer low season then you'd be subject to the 5 weeks high season from November to mid December meaning you're owed time, ok probably quite a small percentage of employees but still.Sean06 wrote: ↑20 Apr 2025, 14:57Has martin walsh not already explained in this thread NOBODY IS OWED hours.funkflex55 wrote: ↑20 Apr 2025, 11:22Even if it returns in 2026, those owed hours will do a low season like the rest of us followed by a high season and then they'll be owed hours again. They're not getting it back without a separate intervention of payment or time back. Our office and probably many others had all those that flexed up to FT for peak doing 39 hours. Probably loads of staff owed hours. RM employs managers with the maths ability of 5 year olds, then again in these situations it pays off well for them.![]()
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Sean06
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Re: Seasonal variation of hours
Has,nt been a pay deal announced yet??funkflex55 wrote: ↑20 Apr 2025, 19:20I think M Walsh also said they want a no strings, inflation busting pay deal. We all know how that went down.![]()
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funkflex55
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Re: Seasonal variation of hours
I'm talking about last time when we lost 18 days pay a s**t loads of terms and conditions and messed up new starter contracts. In exchange for 10 percent over 3 years when inflation was over 10 percent for one year alone. Meaning we all got a pay cut. This years pay cut hasn't been announced yet.
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Mr Rush
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Re: Seasonal variation of hours
If you follow Martin's numbers, then yes. In reality, it's not so cut and dry for everyone.
Anyone uplifted from PT to FT in between last summer's low and the winter high is at a balance of +350 minutes in the company's favour.
The machine stops.
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postmanzach
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Re: Seasonal variation of hours
Yeah we got people that have become full time recently doing the extra time last winter for no pay. They are not happy.Mr Rush wrote: ↑15 Apr 2025, 20:34I still have no answers regarding anyone who changed hours of attendance while 'the experiment' was underway (eg, PT to FT before the commencement of high season). It's no great mystery why some colleagues retiring last year departed early after being told they would never get those Winter hours back.
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postmanzach
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Re: Seasonal variation of hours
Tell that to people that became full time just before peak last year, they worked extra hours for no pay.Sean06 wrote: ↑20 Apr 2025, 14:57Has martin walsh not already explained in this thread NOBODY IS OWED hours.funkflex55 wrote: ↑20 Apr 2025, 11:22Even if it returns in 2026, those owed hours will do a low season like the rest of us followed by a high season and then they'll be owed hours again. They're not getting it back without a separate intervention of payment or time back. Our office and probably many others had all those that flexed up to FT for peak doing 39 hours. Probably loads of staff owed hours. RM employs managers with the maths ability of 5 year olds, then again in these situations it pays off well for them.
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Sean06
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Re: Seasonal variation of hours
Im only quoting what martin walsh said.obviously anyone who is owed hours need to take it up with union.postmanzach wrote: ↑28 Apr 2025, 13:57Tell that to people that became full time just before peak last year, they worked extra hours for no pay.Sean06 wrote: ↑20 Apr 2025, 14:57Has martin walsh not already explained in this thread NOBODY IS OWED hours.funkflex55 wrote: ↑20 Apr 2025, 11:22Even if it returns in 2026, those owed hours will do a low season like the rest of us followed by a high season and then they'll be owed hours again. They're not getting it back without a separate intervention of payment or time back. Our office and probably many others had all those that flexed up to FT for peak doing 39 hours. Probably loads of staff owed hours. RM employs managers with the maths ability of 5 year olds, then again in these situations it pays off well for them.