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Seasonal variation of hours

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kazardaimenu
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Re: Seasonal variation of hours

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There will be people who joined in November forced to work longer hours last year. Those people will need some sort of compensation now that this daft scheme has been scrapped. The union will probably look the other way.
pieoftheday
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Re: Seasonal variation of hours

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kazardaimenu wrote:
20 Apr 2025, 07:30
There will be people who joined in November forced to work longer hours last year. Those people will need some sort of compensation now that this daft scheme has been scrapped. The union will probably look the other way.
Apparently it's only suspended for 2025
funkflex55
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Re: Seasonal variation of hours

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Even if it returns in 2026, those owed hours will do a low season like the rest of us followed by a high season and then they'll be owed hours again. They're not getting it back without a separate intervention of payment or time back. Our office and probably many others had all those that flexed up to FT for peak doing 39 hours. Probably loads of staff owed hours. RM employs managers with the maths ability of 5 year olds, then again in these situations it pays off well for them.
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Re: Seasonal variation of hours

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funkflex55 wrote:
20 Apr 2025, 11:22
Even if it returns in 2026, those owed hours will do a low season like the rest of us followed by a high season and then they'll be owed hours again. They're not getting it back without a separate intervention of payment or time back. Our office and probably many others had all those that flexed up to FT for peak doing 39 hours. Probably loads of staff owed hours. RM employs managers with the maths ability of 5 year olds, then again in these situations it pays off well for them.
Has martin walsh not already explained in this thread NOBODY IS OWED hours.
ted_e_bear
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Re: Seasonal variation of hours

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Sean06 wrote:
20 Apr 2025, 14:57
funkflex55 wrote:
20 Apr 2025, 11:22
Even if it returns in 2026, those owed hours will do a low season like the rest of us followed by a high season and then they'll be owed hours again. They're not getting it back without a separate intervention of payment or time back. Our office and probably many others had all those that flexed up to FT for peak doing 39 hours. Probably loads of staff owed hours. RM employs managers with the maths ability of 5 year olds, then again in these situations it pays off well for them.
Has martin walsh not already explained in this thread NOBODY IS OWED hours.
If you started last year after the summer low season then you'd be subject to the 5 weeks high season from November to mid December meaning you're owed time, ok probably quite a small percentage of employees but still.
Sean06
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Re: Seasonal variation of hours

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ted_e_bear wrote:
20 Apr 2025, 15:31
Sean06 wrote:
20 Apr 2025, 14:57
funkflex55 wrote:
20 Apr 2025, 11:22
Even if it returns in 2026, those owed hours will do a low season like the rest of us followed by a high season and then they'll be owed hours again. They're not getting it back without a separate intervention of payment or time back. Our office and probably many others had all those that flexed up to FT for peak doing 39 hours. Probably loads of staff owed hours. RM employs managers with the maths ability of 5 year olds, then again in these situations it pays off well for them.
Has martin walsh not already explained in this thread NOBODY IS OWED hours.
If you started last year after the summer low season then you'd be subject to the 5 weeks high season from November to mid December meaning you're owed time, ok probably quite a small percentage of employees but still.
Just saying what m walsh said.
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Re: Seasonal variation of hours

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Sean06 wrote:
20 Apr 2025, 18:36
ted_e_bear wrote:
20 Apr 2025, 15:31
Sean06 wrote:
20 Apr 2025, 14:57
funkflex55 wrote:
20 Apr 2025, 11:22
Even if it returns in 2026, those owed hours will do a low season like the rest of us followed by a high season and then they'll be owed hours again. They're not getting it back without a separate intervention of payment or time back. Our office and probably many others had all those that flexed up to FT for peak doing 39 hours. Probably loads of staff owed hours. RM employs managers with the maths ability of 5 year olds, then again in these situations it pays off well for them.
Has martin walsh not already explained in this thread NOBODY IS OWED hours.
If you started last year after the summer low season then you'd be subject to the 5 weeks high season from November to mid December meaning you're owed time, ok probably quite a small percentage of employees but still.
Just saying what m walsh said.
And you do realise it was in fact incorrect? It's blatantly obvious that it wasn't actually true :crazy:
funkflex55
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Re: Seasonal variation of hours

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I think M Walsh also said they want a no strings, inflation busting pay deal. We all know how that went down. :shock:
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Re: Seasonal variation of hours

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ted_e_bear wrote:
20 Apr 2025, 18:51
Sean06 wrote:
20 Apr 2025, 18:36
ted_e_bear wrote:
20 Apr 2025, 15:31
Sean06 wrote:
20 Apr 2025, 14:57
funkflex55 wrote:
20 Apr 2025, 11:22
Even if it returns in 2026, those owed hours will do a low season like the rest of us followed by a high season and then they'll be owed hours again. They're not getting it back without a separate intervention of payment or time back. Our office and probably many others had all those that flexed up to FT for peak doing 39 hours. Probably loads of staff owed hours. RM employs managers with the maths ability of 5 year olds, then again in these situations it pays off well for them.
Has martin walsh not already explained in this thread NOBODY IS OWED hours.
If you started last year after the summer low season then you'd be subject to the 5 weeks high season from November to mid December meaning you're owed time, ok probably quite a small percentage of employees but still.
Just saying what m walsh said.
And you do realise it was in fact incorrect? It's blatantly obvious that it wasn't actually true :crazy:
Well thats up to you to prove to him that you are owed hours not me just quoting him??
Sean06
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Re: Seasonal variation of hours

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funkflex55 wrote:
20 Apr 2025, 19:20
I think M Walsh also said they want a no strings, inflation busting pay deal. We all know how that went down. :shock:
Has,nt been a pay deal announced yet??
funkflex55
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Re: Seasonal variation of hours

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I'm talking about last time when we lost 18 days pay a s**t loads of terms and conditions and messed up new starter contracts. In exchange for 10 percent over 3 years when inflation was over 10 percent for one year alone. Meaning we all got a pay cut. This years pay cut hasn't been announced yet.
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Re: Seasonal variation of hours

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Sean06 wrote:
20 Apr 2025, 14:57
Has martin walsh not already explained in this thread NOBODY IS OWED hours.
If you follow Martin's numbers, then yes. In reality, it's not so cut and dry for everyone.

Anyone uplifted from PT to FT in between last summer's low and the winter high is at a balance of +350 minutes in the company's favour.
The machine stops.
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Re: Seasonal variation of hours

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Mr Rush wrote:
15 Apr 2025, 20:34
I still have no answers regarding anyone who changed hours of attendance while 'the experiment' was underway (eg, PT to FT before the commencement of high season). It's no great mystery why some colleagues retiring last year departed early after being told they would never get those Winter hours back.
Yeah we got people that have become full time recently doing the extra time last winter for no pay. They are not happy.
postmanzach
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Re: Seasonal variation of hours

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Sean06 wrote:
20 Apr 2025, 14:57
funkflex55 wrote:
20 Apr 2025, 11:22
Even if it returns in 2026, those owed hours will do a low season like the rest of us followed by a high season and then they'll be owed hours again. They're not getting it back without a separate intervention of payment or time back. Our office and probably many others had all those that flexed up to FT for peak doing 39 hours. Probably loads of staff owed hours. RM employs managers with the maths ability of 5 year olds, then again in these situations it pays off well for them.
Has martin walsh not already explained in this thread NOBODY IS OWED hours.
Tell that to people that became full time just before peak last year, they worked extra hours for no pay.
Sean06
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Re: Seasonal variation of hours

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postmanzach wrote:
28 Apr 2025, 13:57
Sean06 wrote:
20 Apr 2025, 14:57
funkflex55 wrote:
20 Apr 2025, 11:22
Even if it returns in 2026, those owed hours will do a low season like the rest of us followed by a high season and then they'll be owed hours again. They're not getting it back without a separate intervention of payment or time back. Our office and probably many others had all those that flexed up to FT for peak doing 39 hours. Probably loads of staff owed hours. RM employs managers with the maths ability of 5 year olds, then again in these situations it pays off well for them.
Has martin walsh not already explained in this thread NOBODY IS OWED hours.
Tell that to people that became full time just before peak last year, they worked extra hours for no pay.
Im only quoting what martin walsh said.obviously anyone who is owed hours need to take it up with union.