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USO pilots, can anyone on the trial give an honest appraisal

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Woody84
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Would we be able to choose if we are part of the pairing or solo?

I’m guessing there won’t be many that would want the solo part?…
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Woody84 wrote:
31 Jan 2025, 19:06
Would we be able to choose if we are part of the pairing or solo?

I’m guessing there won’t be many that would want the solo part?…
I would take a solo part, even if that means I don’t get every Saturday off. Less walking doing packets and first class every day, I’m at the age now where that would benefit me.
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Post by Londonsburning »

Woody84 wrote:
31 Jan 2025, 19:06

I’m guessing there won’t be many that would want the solo part?…
What makes you guess that?
Woody84
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SMS1969 wrote:
31 Jan 2025, 19:47
Woody84 wrote:
31 Jan 2025, 19:06
Would we be able to choose if we are part of the pairing or solo?

I’m guessing there won’t be many that would want the solo part?…
I would take a solo part, even if that means I don’t get every Saturday off. Less walking doing packets and first class every day, I’m at the age now where that would benefit me.
The times I’ve worked by myself I’ve enjoyed it a lot more.

Even when busier I find it a lot easier to get into routine.
coconutty
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Post by coconutty »

SMS1969 wrote:
31 Jan 2025, 19:47
Woody84 wrote:
31 Jan 2025, 19:06
Would we be able to choose if we are part of the pairing or solo?

I’m guessing there won’t be many that would want the solo part?…
I would take a solo part, even if that means I don’t get every Saturday off. Less walking doing packets and first class every day, I’m at the age now where that would benefit me.
The solo part is rotating. You would do it on every third week, the other 2 weeks you would be on the walking part.

The union has stated that it defo has to be rotated to eliminate walking fatigue for all 3 posties.
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Post by Acca Dacca »

coconutty wrote:
01 Feb 2025, 22:50
SMS1969 wrote:
31 Jan 2025, 19:47
Woody84 wrote:
31 Jan 2025, 19:06
Would we be able to choose if we are part of the pairing or solo?

I’m guessing there won’t be many that would want the solo part?…
I would take a solo part, even if that means I don’t get every Saturday off. Less walking doing packets and first class every day, I’m at the age now where that would benefit me.
The solo part is rotating. You would do it on every third week, the other 2 weeks you would be on the walking part.

The union has stated that it defo has to be rotated to eliminate walking fatigue for all 3 posties.
How would that work for non drivers in regards to fatigue? They can only do the walking duties and will have no option to rotate to solo packets only.
If you tolerate this, then your paid break will be next
kazardaimenu
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Post by kazardaimenu »

The non drivers would just have to deal with fatigue… it’s all back of a fag packet stuff and constantly shifting goal posts.
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Post by Barnacle »

The pilots end after the OFCOM consultation period ends, so it’s all a complete nonsense because somewhere in the system Delivery 2.1 is being trialled. Any word on that? What happened to Delivery 2.0?

All of these ways to avoid just delivering the pigging Mail cost money to plan and organise. You don’t have to look far to find the source of losing a million a day.
’You can't just ask customers what they want and then try to give that to them. By the time you get it built, they'll want something new.’
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Look forward to hearing how they come up
With a plan to factor in fatique. Huge issue.
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As far as I am aware the pilots have started.... let's get some updates from anyone from a pilot office. How's it going so far?
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Post by qwerty2 »

norris9 wrote:
12 Feb 2025, 19:39
As far as I am aware the pilots have started.... let's get some updates from anyone from a pilot office. How's it going so far?
Depends if anyone is on here from the pilot offices or if anyone on here knows someone to keep it touch with them
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Post by Martin Walsh »

The first Pilot will commence in Newton Mearns from 24th February.

The other units will be phased in over the next 3 months.

Ofcoms proposed a number of USO reforms on 30th January all which are aligned to Royal Mail’s preferred USO model. It is open for consultation until 10th April.

Ofcom will then make their decision in the summer of 2025.

We will provide regular reports on the Pilots.
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Post by ted_e_bear »

Martin Walsh wrote:
12 Feb 2025, 21:06
The first Pilot will commence in Newton Mearns from 24th February.

The other units will be phased in over the next 3 months.

Ofcoms proposed a number of USO reforms on 30th January all which are aligned to Royal Mail’s preferred USO model. It is open for consultation until 10th April.

Ofcom will then make their decision in the summer of 2025.

We will provide regular reports on the Pilots.
What happened to the 37 units trial starting Feb ? Why did that get delayed ?
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Post by Martin Walsh »

The key word starting from February they were always going to be phased.
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Post by norris9 »

Does anyone believe Royal Mail will make our rounds manageable again if this USO change happens later in the year.

The whole point in the USO is to meet standards, Royal Mail hasn't given a rat's ass about standards for 4 years. How can we or Ofcom trust that Royal Mail are going to run a service that meets the new standards if they are introduced. Will Ofcom dish out much bigger fines if RM don't comply?