Oppose the USO pilots imposed by CWU and Royal Mail!

[tramssirhc]

You know nothing about me and you will apologise for that slur.

And what if I don't?
You do make me laugh.

It's proof that you are an industrial and political right wing anti working class know f**k all.

[clashcityrocker]

It's proof that you are an industrial and political right wing anti working class know f**k all.

How is it proof of anything?
You seem to be getting a little bit worked up now.

[tramssirhc]

It's proof that you are an industrial and political right wing anti working class know f**k all.

How is it proof of anything?
You seem to be getting a little bit worked up now.

All it works up is the optics. You keep being a dick and the post keeps getting hits.

[clashcityrocker]

Is that what the class struggle amounts to now?
Working up the optics?

What happened to smashing the city?

[scotchy1962]

It's proof that you are an industrial and political right wing anti working class know f**k all.

How is it proof of anything?
You seem to be getting a little bit worked up now.

All it works up is the optics. You keep being a dick and the post keeps getting hits.

Hmmm.... bit like the pot calling the kettle and all that.
It's starting to get nasty and i don't think that's a solution to anything, accept people don't agree with you and stop trying to force your opinion.
Get a sensible argument going with alternatives other than just "Quit the CWU" and offer a alternative to being in the union and what protection it offers.
We are all adults and fairly sensible, but what you are saying offers nothing of the second one, you have to have something other than calling the union names if you want to attract people to your cause.
We all know what the CWU offer and at the moment it's better than what you are offering.

[moon71]

And as posted on different threads concerning the PWRFC, nothing positive has ever been offered to the workforce.

Just despair, bigotry, and divisive words in the hope to recruit followers. Inflammatory language worded well in the hope to grow and seed hate towards the employer and union in the sole hope of recruitment to an organisation which will never be recognised by the employer.

Do why bother?

Been waiting months for something positive, now it's clear huge swathes of the workforce are repulsed by this organisation too.

[tramssirhc]

And as posted on different threads concerning the PWRFC, nothing positive has ever been offered to the workforce.

Just despair, bigotry, and divisive words in the hope to recruit followers. Inflammatory language worded well in the hope to grow and seed hate towards the employer and union in the sole hope of recruitment to an organisation which will never be recognised by the employer.

Do why bother?

Been waiting months for something positive, now it's clear huge swathes of the workforce are repulsed by this organisation too.

Check out Moon71's posts. They are the very epitome of despair, bigotry and division.

[tramssirhc]

It's proof that you are an industrial and political right wing anti working class know f**k all.

How is it proof of anything?
You seem to be getting a little bit worked up now.

All it works up is the optics. You keep being a dick and the post keeps getting hits.

Hmmm.... bit like the pot calling the kettle and all that.
It's starting to get nasty and i don't think that's a solution to anything, accept people don't agree with you and stop trying to force your opinion.
Get a sensible argument going with alternatives other than just "Quit the CWU" and offer a alternative to being in the union and what protection it offers.
We are all adults and fairly sensible, but what you are saying offers nothing of the second one, you have to have something other than calling the union names if you want to attract people to your cause.
We all know what the CWU offer and at the moment it's better than what you are offering.

What's the alternative to leaving the CWU? It does nothing for the working class. It's doing nothing for workers who face the impossible every day. The CWU has no alternative other than keep paying to keep the likes of Ward and Walsh in their cushy jobs.

[scotchy1962]

It's proof that you are an industrial and political right wing anti working class know f**k all.

How is it proof of anything?
You seem to be getting a little bit worked up now.

All it works up is the optics. You keep being a dick and the post keeps getting hits.

Hmmm.... bit like the pot calling the kettle and all that.
It's starting to get nasty and i don't think that's a solution to anything, accept people don't agree with you and stop trying to force your opinion.
Get a sensible argument going with alternatives other than just "Quit the CWU" and offer a alternative to being in the union and what protection it offers.
We are all adults and fairly sensible, but what you are saying offers nothing of the second one, you have to have something other than calling the union names if you want to attract people to your cause.
We all know what the CWU offer and at the moment it's better than what you are offering.

What's the alternative to leaving the CWU? It does nothing for the working class. It's doing nothing for workers who face the impossible every day. The CWU has no alternative other than keep paying to keep the likes of Ward and Walsh in their cushy jobs.

And your alternative is........ please articulate exactly what that would be, not a load of left wing rhetoric and anti CWU claptrap, a sensible alternative that we could all benefit from.

[Valentina@1]

Time to except CWU is just an extension of management at this point.

Sad times🥲

[tramssirhc]

It's proof that you are an industrial and political right wing anti working class know f**k all.

How is it proof of anything?
You seem to be getting a little bit worked up now.

All it works up is the optics. You keep being a dick and the post keeps getting hits.

Hmmm.... bit like the pot calling the kettle and all that.
It's starting to get nasty and i don't think that's a solution to anything, accept people don't agree with you and stop trying to force your opinion.
Get a sensible argument going with alternatives other than just "Quit the CWU" and offer a alternative to being in the union and what protection it offers.
We are all adults and fairly sensible, but what you are saying offers nothing of the second one, you have to have something other than calling the union names if you want to attract people to your cause.
We all know what the CWU offer and at the moment it's better than what you are offering.

What's the alternative to leaving the CWU? It does nothing for the working class. It's doing nothing for workers who face the impossible every day. The CWU has no alternative other than keep paying to keep the likes of Ward and Walsh in their cushy jobs.

And your alternative is........ please articulate exactly what that would be, not a load of left wing rhetoric and anti CWU claptrap, a sensible alternative that we could all benefit from.

It's not for you to tell me how to articulate myself. The alternative is a rank and file led movement that has no 'leaders'. That needs organisation and the WSWS/SEP and the postal workers rank and file committee are offering that, which is more than the CWU is. The reality is that the CWU is the problem here, not the 'left'.

[Londonsburning]

You can't come on here and continually disparage the trade union movement and not expect any pushback.

The trade union movement is and has been part of the backbone of the working/middle class people of this country since the 60's. The CWU on the other hand have done nothing but feather their own nests whilst simultaneously throwing their loyal followers 'under the bus' so to speak.
They are nothing but a fraudulent charity.

[scotchy1962]

It's not for you to tell me how to articulate myself. The alternative is a rank and file led movement that has no 'leaders'. That needs organisation and the WSWS/SEP and the postal workers rank and file committee are offering that, which is more than the CWU is. The reality is that the CWU is the problem here, not the 'left'.

If you read what you have replied to me and believe this is a way of attracting people to your cause then you are deluded. The arrogant statement with nothing other than left-wing bullshit is the reason nobody is interested.
And if you believe that you will have no "Leaders" then you are even more deluded, as soon as any money rolls in you will see the one human trait that always surfaces, greed, then your "Leaders" will be fighting to get there hands on it. I am not saying you are all like that, but it only takes one who sees a opportunity to destroy your ideals.
Communism is just a way to control people, the "Leaders" still manage somehow to get very wealthy and powerful.
You will be the same!
Sometimes it's better the devil you know.

[tramssirhc]

It's not for you to tell me how to articulate myself. The alternative is a rank and file led movement that has no 'leaders'. That needs organisation and the WSWS/SEP and the postal workers rank and file committee are offering that, which is more than the CWU is. The reality is that the CWU is the problem here, not the 'left'.

If you read what you have replied to me and believe this is a way of attracting people to your cause then you are deluded. The arrogant statement with nothing other than left-wing bullshit is the reason nobody is interested.
And if you believe that you will have no "Leaders" then you are even more deluded, as soon as any money rolls in you will see the one human trait that always surfaces, greed, then your "Leaders" will be fighting to get there hands on it. I am not saying you are all like that, but it only takes one who sees a opportunity to destroy your ideals.
Communism is just a way to control people, the "Leaders" still manage somehow to get very wealthy and powerful.
You will be the same!
Sometimes it's better the devil you know.

I'll tell you what's bullshit - your misanthropic attitude towards your fellow human beings. I very much doubt you have any experience of living under a communist system. I have very little doubt that you are the worker who would happily climbing over all the other workers in the pen to get a days work. That's how it used to be and if we don't challenge what's going on it's the way it's going to be. I'd rather be Boxer than be Napoleon or Snowball

[scotchy1962]

It's not for you to tell me how to articulate myself. The alternative is a rank and file led movement that has no 'leaders'. That needs organisation and the WSWS/SEP and the postal workers rank and file committee are offering that, which is more than the CWU is. The reality is that the CWU is the problem here, not the 'left'.

If you read what you have replied to me and believe this is a way of attracting people to your cause then you are deluded. The arrogant statement with nothing other than left-wing bullshit is the reason nobody is interested.
And if you believe that you will have no "Leaders" then you are even more deluded, as soon as any money rolls in you will see the one human trait that always surfaces, greed, then your "Leaders" will be fighting to get there hands on it. I am not saying you are all like that, but it only takes one who sees a opportunity to destroy your ideals.
Communism is just a way to control people, the "Leaders" still manage somehow to get very wealthy and powerful.
You will be the same!
Sometimes it's better the devil you know.

I'll tell you what's bullshit - your misanthropic attitude towards your fellow human beings. I very much doubt you have any experience of living under a communist system. I have very little doubt that you are the worker who would happily climbing over all the other workers in the pen to get a days work. That's how it used to be and if we don't challenge what's going on it's the way it's going to be. I'd rather be Boxer than be Napoleon or Snowball

I am perfectly placed in analysing other human beings, i am one and have been around long enough on this planet to have gained knowledge on human traits.
I am not saying all humans are like this, what i am saying is that there are always going to be at least one in a group who, when the opportunity arises, will take their chance and try to get rich off the back of others. If you believe this isn't true you need to "give your head a wobble" as the youth of today like to say.
I have not lived under a communist regime, but then neither have many of us, it seems common knowledge that the leaders of these regimes do not live in abstract poverty but the people of a lot, if not all, of these countries do.
Quoting Orwell doesn't make you intelligent, it just means you have read Animal Farm.