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A 5 day or a 4 day week??

Postal workers discussion forum. Discuss the day to day life in a Blue Shirt.

What would posties prefer as regards the USO reform?

A Wallington week, working 6 days for 5 weeks and a week off
48
13%
Working Monday to Friday on "all mail" days with every Saturday off
206
57%
Working longer days Wednesdays to Fridays delivering parcels on a 4 day week
58
16%
Working a 1st class driving route 5 days a week with a Saturday off
47
13%
 
Total votes: 359

buchanpeter
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Re: A 5 day or a 4 day week??

Post by buchanpeter »

When theres lots of staff off sick and we only have 1 person for a van share. We do packets and parcels for that van share.
I'd just prefer it was like that.
Van share packets and parcels+1c letters.
Next day double mail.
Rotating back and forward.
Easier on the body as ur jumping from walking to driving the next day.
3 day cover for the van share. (1day driver 2 days walker following week the reverse)
1 week you have 1 day off then following week 2 days off. (Mon-Sat)
van partner has the opposite.
so u work 9 days over 2 weeks.
The time from the 10th day gets spread out over the other days where u have double mail + double d2ds.
Parcel days u get extra time to fit in the first class mail with the packets and parcels.
kazardaimenu
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Re: A 5 day or a 4 day week??

Post by kazardaimenu »

buchanpeter wrote:
19 Jan 2025, 22:45
When theres lots of staff off sick and we only have 1 person for a van share. We do packets and parcels for that van share.
I'd just prefer it was like that.
Van share packets and parcels+1c letters.
Next day double mail.
Rotating back and forward.
Easier on the body as ur jumping from walking to driving the next day.
3 day cover for the van share. (1day driver 2 days walker following week the reverse)
1 week you have 1 day off then following week 2 days off. (Mon-Sat)
van partner has the opposite.
so u work 9 days over 2 weeks.
The time from the 10th day gets spread out over the other days where u have double mail + double d2ds.
Parcel days u get extra time to fit in the first class mail with the packets and parcels.
Sounds like the best and most practical method. Watch them f**k it up.
SpacePhoenix
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Re: A 5 day or a 4 day week??

Post by SpacePhoenix »

You won't get days with just 1C letters from the MC, it's not viable these days with there being so little 1C. We'd probably still process the 1C and 2C together as normal and it'll be down to the DOs to extract any 2C that they aren't delivering. Over the last 3-4 years letters have dropped off massively, especially 1C
claretandblue
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Re: A 5 day or a 4 day week??

Post by claretandblue »

SpacePhoenix wrote:
20 Jan 2025, 07:27
You won't get days with just 1C letters from the MC, it's not viable these days with there being so little 1C. We'd probably still process the 1C and 2C together as normal and it'll be down to the DOs to extract any 2C that they aren't delivering. Over the last 3-4 years letters have dropped off massively, especially 1C
The plan is to have a separate sorting frame for first class, so they will get segged there.
SpacePhoenix
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Re: A 5 day or a 4 day week??

Post by SpacePhoenix »

claretandblue wrote:
20 Jan 2025, 08:43
SpacePhoenix wrote:
20 Jan 2025, 07:27
You won't get days with just 1C letters from the MC, it's not viable these days with there being so little 1C. We'd probably still process the 1C and 2C together as normal and it'll be down to the DOs to extract any 2C that they aren't delivering. Over the last 3-4 years letters have dropped off massively, especially 1C
The plan is to have a separate sorting frame for first class, so they will get segged there.
Won't work. Inward mail is 1C and 2C mixed together. We won't be double handling it. It'll get sorted to the DOs and then sent out to them. Wave 1 mech is 1C and 2C mixed together, there's not enough 1C alone to be worth starting the machines. Outward mail, again there's probably not enough 1C to justify sending it out to the inward MCs
claretandblue
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Re: A 5 day or a 4 day week??

Post by claretandblue »

SpacePhoenix wrote:
20 Jan 2025, 09:05
claretandblue wrote:
20 Jan 2025, 08:43
SpacePhoenix wrote:
20 Jan 2025, 07:27
You won't get days with just 1C letters from the MC, it's not viable these days with there being so little 1C. We'd probably still process the 1C and 2C together as normal and it'll be down to the DOs to extract any 2C that they aren't delivering. Over the last 3-4 years letters have dropped off massively, especially 1C
The plan is to have a separate sorting frame for first class, so they will get segged there.
Won't work. Inward mail is 1C and 2C mixed together. We won't be double handling it. It'll get sorted to the DOs and then sent out to them. Wave 1 mech is 1C and 2C mixed together, there's not enough 1C alone to be worth starting the machines. Outward mail, again there's probably not enough 1C to justify sending it out to the inward MCs
You misunderstand, the do's will be segging it at a separate sorting frame.
kazardaimenu
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Re: A 5 day or a 4 day week??

Post by kazardaimenu »

Wouldn’t mind a 9 day fought-night doing mail and parcels. Slightly longer days but more days off and the managers will probably be on a 5 or 6 day week so they’ll be long gone by the time we finish.
Idk
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Re: A 5 day or a 4 day week??

Post by Idk »

Don't worry,we all know very little will actually change.
TopperGas
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Re: A 5 day or a 4 day week??

Post by TopperGas »

claretandblue wrote:
20 Jan 2025, 09:08
SpacePhoenix wrote:
20 Jan 2025, 09:05
claretandblue wrote:
20 Jan 2025, 08:43
SpacePhoenix wrote:
20 Jan 2025, 07:27
You won't get days with just 1C letters from the MC, it's not viable these days with there being so little 1C. We'd probably still process the 1C and 2C together as normal and it'll be down to the DOs to extract any 2C that they aren't delivering. Over the last 3-4 years letters have dropped off massively, especially 1C
The plan is to have a separate sorting frame for first class, so they will get segged there.
Won't work. Inward mail is 1C and 2C mixed together. We won't be double handling it. It'll get sorted to the DOs and then sent out to them. Wave 1 mech is 1C and 2C mixed together, there's not enough 1C alone to be worth starting the machines. Outward mail, again there's probably not enough 1C to justify sending it out to the inward MCs
You misunderstand, the do's will be segging it at a separate sorting frame.
There's no room now in most DO's so where are they going to fit another complete sorting frame?
clashcityrocker
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Re: A 5 day or a 4 day week??

Post by clashcityrocker »

TopperGas wrote:
20 Jan 2025, 17:45

There's no room now in most DO's so where are they going to fit another complete sorting frame?
They don't have to add another frame.
They will simply identify one frame as first class. As we do with NHS letters currently.
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postslippete
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Re: A 5 day or a 4 day week??

Post by postslippete »

There will be just another frame on the IPS for 1st class letters only. Then the postie will take those letters back to their workstation and just put them in order with the parcels that are going out.
On the face of it, shareholder value is the dumbest idea in the world.
Dingo99
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Re: A 5 day or a 4 day week??

Post by Dingo99 »

clashcityrocker wrote:
20 Jan 2025, 19:24
TopperGas wrote:
20 Jan 2025, 17:45

There's no room now in most DO's so where are they going to fit another complete sorting frame?
They don't have to add another frame.
They will simply identify one frame as first class. As we do with NHS letters currently.
We stopped segging NHS letters months ago, don't know when or why, just one day I was on the IPS and wasn't given any to prioritise.
RHONE
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Re: A 5 day or a 4 day week??

Post by RHONE »

A ? Us oldies on older contracts who never had driving included could we opt out of being a driver.
GRS
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Re: A 5 day or a 4 day week??

Post by GRS »

Here’s a novel idea…….how about MC’s start working for DO’s rather than the other way round. That was the idea when MC’s first came into being. Each DO had a Service Level Agreement which detailed the contract between the two. Nowadays it seems the attitude from MC’s is “I’m alright Jack” and nothing else matters.
SpacePhoenix
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Re: A 5 day or a 4 day week??

Post by SpacePhoenix »

GRS wrote:
20 Jan 2025, 19:55
Here’s a novel idea…….how about MC’s start working for DO’s rather than the other way round. That was the idea when MC’s first came into being. Each DO had a Service Level Agreement which detailed the contract between the two. Nowadays it seems the attitude from MC’s is “I’m alright Jack” and nothing else matters.
Each shift has a work plan that they work to. These days inward and outward are often being sorted at the same time and we have a lot less staff than we used to have