Banned extended overtime in some offices

[Sean06]

Only thing stopping them putting them back further is the SDs. If RM did away with the timed ones or if RM did actually merge PF into RM, and transferred the SDs over to the former PF then there'd be nothing stopping them from pushing the dispatch times back. You're deluded if you think they can never push the dispatch times back more.

SP your mantra always seems to be, ''They'll be moving the Despatch Times back more''. As I've mentioned previously your insights into the mysteries of the Mail Centres are appreciated, and I acknowledge that this is a Discussion Forum, however I wish you'd stop envisioning scenarios of Doom & Gloom for Deliveries.

You don't work in Deliveries and don't understand how we work. Simply dreaming up Ifs & Maybes doesn't help anyone. I believe there's a significant number of staff suffering from mental health issues , including anxiety issues, and just reading some of the Bullshit on this site is enough to cause them concern. Lets try and stick to the facts please.

Hear hear. Amazingly our mail centre colleague has mentioned dispatch/despatch in their posts 267 times, way back in 2011 they were touting later dispatch/despatch times. Apart from it coming across as some kind of comedy line (along the lines of ‘That’s another fine mess, shut that door, don’t call me Shirley, if anything dispatch times will become later’) it’s getting really boring now.

Quite sad actually if you have went back an counted how many times someone has actually mentioned dispatch/despatch.must have lots of time on your hands.

[Broxi51]

I'm sorry if this has already been asked but our office for the first time is about to be hit with an overtime ban. Can I refuse to prioritise tracked items because they are Non-USO unless I am given this in writing? I am happy to follow the guidelines for not working any OT but since we are directed to deliver the USO then it seems strange that we would deliver non-USO items before USO items. If RM wants this then surely something in writing to this effect would help

[yellowbelly]

I'm sorry if this has already been asked but our office for the first time is about to be hit with an overtime ban. Can I refuse to prioritise tracked items because they are Non-USO unless I am given this in writing? I am happy to follow the guidelines for not working any OT but since we are directed to deliver the USO then it seems strange that we would deliver non-USO items before USO items. If RM wants this then surely something in writing to this effect would help

Where is it stated that Tracked items are non-USO - apart from Saturdays?

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/20 ... al-service

31 Minimum requirements

This section sets out the services that must, as a minimum, be included in a universal postal service.

Requirement 1: delivery of letters or other postal packets
(1) At least one delivery of letters every Monday to Saturday—
(a) to the home or premises of every individual or other person in the United Kingdom, or
(b) to such identifiable points for the delivery of postal packets as OFCOM may approve.

(2) At least one delivery of other postal packets every Monday to Friday to the places within paragraph (1)(a) or (b).

[Clappedoutpostie]

I'm sorry if this has already been asked but our office for the first time is about to be hit with an overtime ban. Can I refuse to prioritise tracked items because they are Non-USO unless I am given this in writing? I am happy to follow the guidelines for not working any OT but since we are directed to deliver the USO then it seems strange that we would deliver non-USO items before USO items. If RM wants this then surely something in writing to this effect would help

No. Just do as instructed and go home.

[SpacePhoenix]

I'm sorry if this has already been asked but our office for the first time is about to be hit with an overtime ban. Can I refuse to prioritise tracked items because they are Non-USO unless I am given this in writing? I am happy to follow the guidelines for not working any OT but since we are directed to deliver the USO then it seems strange that we would deliver non-USO items before USO items. If RM wants this then surely something in writing to this effect would help

Where is it stated that Tracked items are non-USO - apart from Saturdays?

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/20 ... al-service

31 Minimum requirements

This section sets out the services that must, as a minimum, be included in a universal postal service.

Requirement 1: delivery of letters or other postal packets
(1) At least one delivery of letters every Monday to Saturday—
(a) to the home or premises of every individual or other person in the United Kingdom, or
(b) to such identifiable points for the delivery of postal packets as OFCOM may approve.

(2) At least one delivery of other postal packets every Monday to Friday to the places within paragraph (1)(a) or (b).

We're starting to see an increase in the number of letters and flats that are Tracked. It used to be that you might get a pigeon hole of Tracked across all the flat frames over the night. Now you can normally get at least two or three pigeon holes worth of Tracked across the flat frames. We get a few nights where most frames get a pigeon hole full of Tracked

Large letters are up to 35.3cm x 25cm x 2.5cm (up to 750g) which does technically cover a good few items that go through the system as packets. Them items are covered by the USO.

[postslippete]

I'm sorry if this has already been asked but our office for the first time is about to be hit with an overtime ban. Can I refuse to prioritise tracked items because they are Non-USO unless I am given this in writing? I am happy to follow the guidelines for not working any OT but since we are directed to deliver the USO then it seems strange that we would deliver non-USO items before USO items. If RM wants this then surely something in writing to this effect would help

You won't find any manager that will give you anything in writing regarding prioritising the Tracked items over the letters because they are tasked with budgets to try and clear everything and still be cost effective. Regarding watering down the universal service - the CWU are fully on board with it as they are holding USO pilots in 37 offices - so honestly, if managers want you to ensure that all the parcels are delivered that day, then that is what you should do. If you decide not to do this then it is very likely that they will use the conduct code on you for not following a 'reasonable request' and this Union is unlikely to back you up.

How many times do you have to hear that we are a parcels business that delivers letters....

[Dorset Plodder]

How many times do you have to hear that we are a parcels business that delivers letters....

That little mantra has slipped in a few times. I love the way your Manager Parrots something he's heard on the morning conference call.
Like .... ''It's OUR Business to Run''.... ''The Business is changing, That was Then This is Now''

Provided we don't follow the Amazon Business Plan too closely. I had one of their lads knocking at my door at 1900 on a Saturday Night FFS!

[HTPostman]

Only thing stopping them putting them back further is the SDs. If RM did away with the timed ones or if RM did actually merge PF into RM, and transferred the SDs over to the former PF then there'd be nothing stopping them from pushing the dispatch times back. You're deluded if you think they can never push the dispatch times back more.

SP your mantra always seems to be, ''They'll be moving the Despatch Times back more''. As I've mentioned previously your insights into the mysteries of the Mail Centres are appreciated, and I acknowledge that this is a Discussion Forum, however I wish you'd stop envisioning scenarios of Doom & Gloom for Deliveries.

You don't work in Deliveries and don't understand how we work. Simply dreaming up Ifs & Maybes doesn't help anyone. I believe there's a significant number of staff suffering from mental health issues , including anxiety issues, and just reading some of the Bullshit on this site is enough to cause them concern. Lets try and stick to the facts please.

Hear hear. Amazingly our mail centre colleague has mentioned dispatch/despatch in their posts 267 times, way back in 2011 they were touting later dispatch/despatch times. Apart from it coming across as some kind of comedy line (along the lines of ‘That’s another fine mess, shut that door, don’t call me Shirley, if anything dispatch times will become later’) it’s getting really boring now.

Quite sad actually if you have went back an counted how many times someone has actually mentioned dispatch/despatch.must have lots of time on your hands.

I used a little thing called intelligence, entered the word(s) and username into the search tab, 20 second job if that. It probably took me less time than it took you to write your post.

[Sean06]

Only thing stopping them putting them back further is the SDs. If RM did away with the timed ones or if RM did actually merge PF into RM, and transferred the SDs over to the former PF then there'd be nothing stopping them from pushing the dispatch times back. You're deluded if you think they can never push the dispatch times back more.

SP your mantra always seems to be, ''They'll be moving the Despatch Times back more''. As I've mentioned previously your insights into the mysteries of the Mail Centres are appreciated, and I acknowledge that this is a Discussion Forum, however I wish you'd stop envisioning scenarios of Doom & Gloom for Deliveries.

You don't work in Deliveries and don't understand how we work. Simply dreaming up Ifs & Maybes doesn't help anyone. I believe there's a significant number of staff suffering from mental health issues , including anxiety issues, and just reading some of the Bullshit on this site is enough to cause them concern. Lets try and stick to the facts please.

Hear hear. Amazingly our mail centre colleague has mentioned dispatch/despatch in their posts 267 times, way back in 2011 they were touting later dispatch/despatch times. Apart from it coming across as some kind of comedy line (along the lines of ‘That’s another fine mess, shut that door, don’t call me Shirley, if anything dispatch times will become later’) it’s getting really boring now.

Quite sad actually if you have went back an counted how many times someone has actually mentioned dispatch/despatch.must have lots of time on your hands.

I used a little thing called intelligence, entered the word(s) and username into the search tab, 20 second job if that. It probably took me less time than it took you to write your post.

Still quite sad an even worse your ex rm

[Clappedoutpostie]

Regarding watering down the universal service - the CWU are fully on board with it as they are holding USO pilots in 37 offices

They are not fully onboard with it they are in the same position as they have been for the last few years where it’s better to be in the room rather than refusing to be in the room.

[HTPostman]

Only thing stopping them putting them back further is the SDs. If RM did away with the timed ones or if RM did actually merge PF into RM, and transferred the SDs over to the former PF then there'd be nothing stopping them from pushing the dispatch times back. You're deluded if you think they can never push the dispatch times back more.

SP your mantra always seems to be, ''They'll be moving the Despatch Times back more''. As I've mentioned previously your insights into the mysteries of the Mail Centres are appreciated, and I acknowledge that this is a Discussion Forum, however I wish you'd stop envisioning scenarios of Doom & Gloom for Deliveries.

You don't work in Deliveries and don't understand how we work. Simply dreaming up Ifs & Maybes doesn't help anyone. I believe there's a significant number of staff suffering from mental health issues , including anxiety issues, and just reading some of the Bullshit on this site is enough to cause them concern. Lets try and stick to the facts please.

Hear hear. Amazingly our mail centre colleague has mentioned dispatch/despatch in their posts 267 times, way back in 2011 they were touting later dispatch/despatch times. Apart from it coming across as some kind of comedy line (along the lines of ‘That’s another fine mess, shut that door, don’t call me Shirley, if anything dispatch times will become later’) it’s getting really boring now.

Quite sad actually if you have went back an counted how many times someone has actually mentioned dispatch/despatch.must have lots of time on your hands.

I used a little thing called intelligence, entered the word(s) and username into the search tab, 20 second job if that. It probably took me less time than it took you to write your post.

Still quite sad an even worse your ex rm

Learn to spell.

[Londonsburning]

Only thing stopping them putting them back further is the SDs. If RM did away with the timed ones or if RM did actually merge PF into RM, and transferred the SDs over to the former PF then there'd be nothing stopping them from pushing the dispatch times back. You're deluded if you think they can never push the dispatch times back more.

SP your mantra always seems to be, ''They'll be moving the Despatch Times back more''. As I've mentioned previously your insights into the mysteries of the Mail Centres are appreciated, and I acknowledge that this is a Discussion Forum, however I wish you'd stop envisioning scenarios of Doom & Gloom for Deliveries.

You don't work in Deliveries and don't understand how we work. Simply dreaming up Ifs & Maybes doesn't help anyone. I believe there's a significant number of staff suffering from mental health issues , including anxiety issues, and just reading some of the Bullshit on this site is enough to cause them concern. Lets try and stick to the facts please.

Hear hear. Amazingly our mail centre colleague has mentioned dispatch/despatch in their posts 267 times, way back in 2011 they were touting later dispatch/despatch times. Apart from it coming across as some kind of comedy line (along the lines of ‘That’s another fine mess, shut that door, don’t call me Shirley, if anything dispatch times will become later’) it’s getting really boring now.

Quite sad actually if you have went back an counted how many times someone has actually mentioned dispatch/despatch.must have lots of time on your hands.

I used a little thing called intelligence, entered the word(s) and username into the search tab, 20 second job if that. It probably took me less time than it took you to write your post.

Still quite sad an even worse your ex rm

Learn to spell.

The poster Sean presents themselves as not being the sharpest tool in the box judging by his comments on here tbh

[thefox]

Most people in our office think the start times are gonna be pushed later as well which in scotland ain't ideal as we are late enough as it is.

Why, there's been no suggestions that's the case, even with the proposed USO reforms. It seems more likely delivery spans will be increased rather than start times pushed any later.

Only time will tell.

[SpacePhoenix]

Most people in our office think the start times are gonna be pushed later as well which in scotland ain't ideal as we are late enough as it is.

Why, there's been no suggestions that's the case, even with the proposed USO reforms. It seems more likely delivery spans will be increased rather than start times pushed any later.

Only time will tell.

We've got the new owner coming in soon. They might well have a team going over every aspect of the company with a fine tooth comb, who knows what they might decide to do

[chrisj]

You also have the health and safety angle - this came up during the Parliamentary session with Thompson.

The number of very large parcels we are getting is unprecedented - where are small offices or others supposed to store them?

And how will you operate - will you just go from first loop on the frame till when you run out of time or try and get rid of your big parcels (that is almost impossible these days of paired/shared van walks?

Do you really want to be bringing back tracked parcels especially showing box size and above (very large items).

Please do as you are told; the USO and how RM wants to operate is not your job. * But nothing stops you being a 'whistle blower'.