40 hour contracts

[hero22]

Have a family member working In another office, been there a few years now and very difficult to get an upgrade in contract in terms of hours even with doing full time hours. Now they have been told no overtime and new starts are on new 40
Hour contacts.

Any others experiencing this ?

[Londonsburning]

Have a family member working In another office, been there a few years now and very difficult to get an upgrade in contract in terms of hours even with doing full time hours. Now they have been told no overtime and new starts are on new 40
Hour contacts.

Any others experiencing this ?

The people in charge of RM don't care about seniority and haven't for a long time now, another erosion of OPGs T&C's and seniority being kneecapped before the inevitable foreign bought capture of yet another British public service.. sorry "business"

[hero22]

Sounds about right

[claretandblue]

Have a family member working In another office, been there a few years now and very difficult to get an upgrade in contract in terms of hours even with doing full time hours. Now they have been told no overtime and new starts are on new 40
Hour contacts.

Any others experiencing this ?

Yes but Martin Walsh told us that all part timers would be getting the "opportunity" to move up

[Londonsburning]

If your face doesn't fit then?? I am shocked

[kazardaimenu]

So new starts are being put on 40 hour contracts and existing part time staff aren’t being given the chance to go full time? Plus an overtime ban? That stinks!

[ted_e_bear]

So new starts are being put on 40 hour contracts and existing part time staff aren’t being given the chance to go full time? Plus an overtime ban? That stinks!

Yeah bunch of twats, £12.54 x 40 hours work = £501, for that money on an old contract with delivery supplement and paid breaks they'd only get about 35 hours work.

[Oscar_Grouch]

Have a family member working In another office, been there a few years now and very difficult to get an upgrade in contract in terms of hours even with doing full time hours. Now they have been told no overtime and new starts are on new 40
Hour contacts.

Any others experiencing this ?

I would bet that the new starts will be being employed to work Sundays with no premium in pay.
There could be argument for upping hours for existing staff first but it may be that it would only be offered with the catch of being contacted to Sunday working

[norris9]

Have a family member working In another office, been there a few years now and very difficult to get an upgrade in contract in terms of hours even with doing full time hours. Now they have been told no overtime and new starts are on new 40
Hour contacts.

Any others experiencing this ?

Yes but Martin Walsh told us that all part timers would be getting the "opportunity" to move up

I didn't really understand what Martin meant. He said something along the lines of 13,000 part timers would get the chance to go full time, but he seemed to suggest that it was just the part timers that were doing their PT hours + starting at the same time as a FT, that would be getting the upgrade...

but maybe I misunderstood.

[rogersh]

Have a family member working In another office, been there a few years now and very difficult to get an upgrade in contract in terms of hours even with doing full time hours. Now they have been told no overtime and new starts are on new 40
Hour contacts.

Any others experiencing this ?

Yes but Martin Walsh told us that all part timers would be getting the "opportunity" to move up

I didn't really understand what Martin meant. He said something along the lines of 13,000 part timers would get the chance to go full time, but he seemed to suggest that it was just the part timers that were doing their PT hours + starting at the same time as a FT, that would be getting the upgrade...

but maybe I misunderstood.

https://www.cwu.org/video/cwu-live-take ... nt-update/

At 50:15 you will find the exact quote.

[Acca Dacca]

Have a family member working In another office, been there a few years now and very difficult to get an upgrade in contract in terms of hours even with doing full time hours. Now they have been told no overtime and new starts are on new 40
Hour contacts.

Any others experiencing this ?

Yes but Martin Walsh told us that all part timers would be getting the "opportunity" to move up

I didn't really understand what Martin meant. He said something along the lines of 13,000 part timers would get the chance to go full time, but he seemed to suggest that it was just the part timers that were doing their PT hours + starting at the same time as a FT, that would be getting the upgrade...

but maybe I misunderstood.

There were part timers who signed some sort of 'temporary' full time contract ( not xmas pressure type ) within the last few years.

Essentially you are full time but it could be taken away at any time with enough notice.

I believe its just those contracts that Martin has said are to be made permanent

[TopperGas]

Have a family member working In another office, been there a few years now and very difficult to get an upgrade in contract in terms of hours even with doing full time hours. Now they have been told no overtime and new starts are on new 40
Hour contacts.

Any others experiencing this ?

Yes but Martin Walsh told us that all part timers would be getting the "opportunity" to move up

I didn't really understand what Martin meant. He said something along the lines of 13,000 part timers would get the chance to go full time, but he seemed to suggest that it was just the part timers that were doing their PT hours + starting at the same time as a FT, that would be getting the upgrade...

but maybe I misunderstood.

There were part timers who signed some sort of 'temporary' full time contract ( not xmas pressure type ) within the last few years.

Essentially you are full time but it could be taken away at any time with enough notice.

I believe its just those contracts that Martin has said are to be made permanent

I've worked f/t hours for virtually 52 weeks a year since I started working for RM but my manager claims he's heard nothing about p/t staff being upgraded to f/t, it seems MW is talking the usual CWU nonsense as I can't see RM suddenly upgrading 11,000 staff on the old contracts, particularly before the DK takeover has been completed as what happens if it doesn't proceed for any reason?

[Valentina@1]

I’d have thought RM would eventually want everyone on the new contracts.
Why would they agree to make up 11k PT to old terms?
Makes no sense,

[A2B]

I’d have thought RM would eventually want everyone on the new contracts.
Why would they agree to make up 11k PT to old terms?
Makes no sense,

To help sugarcoat a very bad takeover deal?

[Acca Dacca]

Have a family member working In another office, been there a few years now and very difficult to get an upgrade in contract in terms of hours even with doing full time hours. Now they have been told no overtime and new starts are on new 40
Hour contacts.

Any others experiencing this ?

Yes but Martin Walsh told us that all part timers would be getting the "opportunity" to move up

I didn't really understand what Martin meant. He said something along the lines of 13,000 part timers would get the chance to go full time, but he seemed to suggest that it was just the part timers that were doing their PT hours + starting at the same time as a FT, that would be getting the upgrade...

but maybe I misunderstood.

There were part timers who signed some sort of 'temporary' full time contract ( not xmas pressure type ) within the last few years.

Essentially you are full time but it could be taken away at any time with enough notice.

I believe its just those contracts that Martin has said are to be made permanent

I've worked f/t hours for virtually 52 weeks a year since I started working for RM but my manager claims he's heard nothing about p/t staff being upgraded to f/t, it seems MW is talking the usual CWU nonsense as I can't see RM suddenly upgrading 11,000 staff on the old contracts, particularly before the DK takeover has been completed as what happens if it doesn't proceed for any reason?

Did you sign a contract? If not unfortunately I dont think this is going to apply to you ( im the same )

This isnt for people who have just been doing FT hours while part time - and could technically just say to the manager they want to stop tomorrow if they wanted to - this is an actual contract that PTers signed given on seniority - I believe all PTers who got a contract over past few years signed this ''temporary'' rolling contract but it was never legally permanent like the contracts of old

This as far as im aware only applies to those who signed that rather than it being all part timers who has been doing FT hours on overtime